It says “from an Omicron infection” - which was expected since it is much more transmissible as well as the mutations that evade vaccine.First line of this article
‘Two doses of some vaccines offer almost no protection from an Omicron infection, although they should still greatly reduce the risk of becoming so ill you need hospital care.’
So the first 2 vaccines give you no protection (way to talk the unvaccinated round) and this third dose should reduce risk, still no guarantees there. When is the next variant due that you’ll need the fourth booster for?
Keep believing your government and see where we are a year from now....and then it goes on to explain why and why the booster WILL
The vaccines are effective at reducing transmission but less so with the current variants.Like I say conflicting of UK studies, but looking at cases it really looks like it’s reducing transmission
I'm believing the science. Nothing to do with any governmentsKeep believing your government and see where we are a year from now
I’ll need proof before I’d believe itThe vaccines are effective at reducing transmission but less so with the current variants.
It’s the same at my school. Most teachers are wearing them but majority of parents aren’t. They can’t possibly police it (and I don’t want them to) and people are realising this. I’ve never seen the point in wearing a mask outside. I see elderly people walking down the street on their own with a mask on regularly and it’s sad to see. They’re on their own with no one around them, what is the point?I couldn’t be friends with someone like that
Requesting face masks at school drop off is going well….5% wearing them and my child’s own teacher isn’t bothering
Maybe we should stop testing people who present no symptoms. Bloody ridiculous this.Apparently we've now run out of PCRs in England now too at test sites. Couldn't make it up could you
I’ve linked studies many times but don’t think anyone has ever taken notice.I’ll need proof before I’d believe it
Unless you’ve got inside info that even the scientists don’t have access to they’re not proof of anything, they’ll never be able to test the world simultaneously so there’s no way of ever knowing that.I’ve linked studies many times but don’t think anyone has ever taken notice.
We’ve also discussed this before regarding testing on a mass scale. No matter what the study is - testing a whole population is not feasible. However the studies will choose a sample that is large enough to draw a conclusion.Unless you’ve got inside info that even the scientists don’t have access to they’re not proof of anything, they’ll never be able to test the world simultaneously so there’s no way of ever knowing that.
Again not worth the paper it’s written on it’s real world data that’s telling.We’ve also discussed this before regarding testing on a mass scale. No matter what the study is - testing a whole population is not feasible. However the studies will choose a sample that is large enough to draw a conclusion.
And still decently effective against Delta which is still the predominant strain in the UK.It says “from an Omicron infection” - which was expected since it is much more transmissible as well as the mutations that evade vaccine.
They use real world data too.Again not worth the paper it’s written on it’s real world data that’s telling.
There could be a lot of factors as to why they came to this conclusion and possibly because of the one you mention since their vaccine uptake has been low compared to ours.Could the data from SA saying 2 doses does reduce omicron be because these people have had their second dose more recently?
Most of us in the UK are at least 3/4 months out from our second dose of not more.
Exactly.And still decently effective against Delta which is still the predominant strain in the UK.
Which has shown they don’t stop transmission or why are we in this position time and time again!They use real world data too.
There could be a lot of factors as to why they came to this conclusion and possibly because of the one you mention since their vaccine uptake has been low compared to ours.
Exactly.
It’s not ridiculous. Some people don’t have symptoms. If they weren’t testing, they’d be spreading the virus none the wiser.Maybe we should stop testing people who present no symptoms. Bloody ridiculous this.
I’ve explained as to why. When the vaccines were first trialled - it was against the dominant variant at that point which was the Alpha/Beta and the vaccines were effective in reducing it. Since then, the virus has mutated - Delta came along, as did Omicron = more transmissible, mutations = evade vaccine. The vaccine did not change and magically stop working. The nature of the virus did.Which has shown they don’t stop transmission or why are we in this position time and time again!
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