Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #104

[justbeingnosy98]

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says new Covid cases fell by 31% in the week to 18 September.

She says this is "a very encouraging trend" but warns against complacency and says the position remains "fragile".

Wee bit of good news

Also saying the military and fire service will be helping the ambulance service from this weekend.

 

[SarahGard83]

Negative result

 

[openbook1]

I honestly don't understand why there isn't more outrage about this.

In the ward I am on there are people having 'urgent' surgeries to remove brain tumours that they were due to have 9-12 months ago. Astounding really.

Same here. Also children's cancer surgeries are being cancelled. I saw a poor man who's lung cancer surgery was cancelled too. It is dreadful.

 

[Notgonnalie]

Same here. Also children's cancer surgeries are being cancelled. I saw a poor man who's lung cancer surgery was cancelled too. It is dreadful.

It’s devastating. That’s the direct result of only focussing on covid for the last 2 years, denying healthcare to people whose illnesses could have been managed now their prognosis is much worse a child, with their whole life ahead of them it’s indefensible

 

[openbook1]

It’s devastating. That’s the direct result of only focussing on covid for the last 2 years, denying healthcare to people whose illnesses could have been managed now their prognosis is much worse a child, with their whole life ahead of them it’s indefensible

The reason it is happening is because we do not have enough icu beds and staff. So they are having to take icu beds and staff from other areas of the hospital for those sick with covid. It is nuts, as they already added extra icu beds on top of the regular number but hospital staff are quitting constantly.

 

[Prefrontalmedialcortex]

Numbers slightly up from last week but this is most probably due to children returning to school and was expected.

 

[Onetwofour]

When people are going to get that hospitals are not on purpose delaying surgeries but are not managing to function correctly these last 18 months because of the additional load that represent covid patients in ICU?

 

[Notgonnalie]

When people are going to get that hospitals are not on purpose delaying surgeries but are not managing to function correctly these last 18 months because of the additional load that represent covid patients in ICU?

People do get it, it’s perfectly reasonable to understand that and to be angry at it.

 

[inkypinkyponky]

Why the hell was all that money invested in the nightingale hospitals but not used and no pressure taken off the NHS which was supposed to be their aim. The hospital's may not be delaying surgery but there is so much more that could have been done but the NHS couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

 

[Notgonnalie]

Why the hell was all that money invested in the nightingale hospitals but not used and no pressure taken off the NHS which was supposed to be their aim

The whole things a tit show. Just saw in Northern Ireland the headlines say their health service will “topple over” without action. Their waiting lists are the worst in the whole of the U.K. it’s barbaric long before covid was ever around

 

[Prefrontalmedialcortex]

When people are going to get that hospitals are not on purpose delaying surgeries but are not managing to function correctly these last 18 months because of the additional load that represent covid patients in ICU?

This. No one has forgotten about other viruses/illnesses/diseases. Covid-19 is new to many and up until not that long ago we knew very little. Lockdowns had to happen to try and stop the spread, unfortunately this did disrupt medical treatment but what was the alternative? Let the virus spread and everyone catch it?

Nurses, doctors and other health professionals are not delaying treatments and operations on purpose or because they want to. The issues have always been there in regards to the NHS, the pandemic has heightened the issues. More funding is needed, more training is needed and more research into treatments is needed.

A new government and prime minister is also needed.

 

[Onetwofour]

Definitely political decisions contribute hugely to the problems hospitals are facing. But for now I haven't seen any hospital in the world not being overwhelmed when covid is raging. When vaccination uptake is low or non-existent it is the worse.

Another factor is qualified hospital staffs are burnt over - they cannot take wave after wave without cracking. Many are leaving and it is not possible to replace on the spot those skilled people even with all the money in the world. Trained people just don't appear like this - they are long-time investement, that's why any temporary structures like nightingale hospitals are not working. Also those temporary structures if they can provide some help, it's basically a degraded healthcare they can give because ICU standards are very high and you cannot just make it happen on the spot. It's better than nothing in time of crisis but they are not viable solutions. That's also why when the standard ICU are overwhelmed the number of people dying are increasing because it is not possible to give the same standard of care. And then even out of crisis hospitals have to catch and it creates longer and longer waiting list. Each covid wave increases the delays.

 

[Notgonnalie]

They need to bring in the army medics and have feet on the ground doing something. They also need to stop refusing people gp treatment face to face this is contributing to late diagnosis. If they treated their staff better and had better working package it would be a much better workforce for retention of staff. The government failed the nhs long before covid. The nhs is too top heavy. Too many managers on massive salaries and not enough people providing healthcare and not enough positive morale.

Holy tit what is life. What is life. Is this really a good use of police resources?!?!! Seizing chicken. Stop the bus!

 

[Onetwofour]

@Notgonnalie

You are right on the lack of fundings and consideration of the healthcare staff. But the army medics cannot replace highly skilled staff from ICUs or specialists. They have a specific training to intervene on specific occasions but they are not trained to do the "normal" job of the civilian healthcare staff.

 

[Notgonnalie]

@Notgonnalie

You are right on the lack of fundings and consideration of the healthcare staff. But the army medics cannot replace highly skilled staff from ICUs or specialists. They have a specific training to intervene on specific occasions but they are not trained to do the "normal" job of the civilian healthcare staff.

No they can’t replace but they can help out and do something; something is always better than nothing. I’m sure the nhs would appreciate extra hands. Not to replace but to help carry the load.

The NHS wasn’t functioning properly long before covid. The waiting lists aren’t just because of a lack of ICU beds. It’s poor management. We still have theatres that cannot be staffed on a daily basis. Meaning the waiting lists just continue to grow.

I have never felt so undervalued in my 6 years in the NHS before. I am a number, not a person. I make the staffing levels slightly less dangerous. I haven’t been paid right for months. I pay a fortune for parking and barely ever manage to park on site, instead leaving for work earlier, trying to find a spot and having to park on a random side street. I work many shifts without a break. I am expected to become more than one person in order to cope with the workload given to me. We don’t receive adequate support for the absolute horrors that we’ve seen in 18 months. Nobody works for the NHS for the money but I wonder how long I and others like me can continue. A lot of us are truly at breaking point.

Totally agree. I’m ex-NHS. I left before covid. Being paid £1800 less than I was owed and it taking them 3 months to help it was the last straw for me. There were many, many problems that was just the straw that broke the camels back for me. The bullying culture. The hierarchy. The culture of blame. It was just a horrible horrible place to be. And that’s before you add in the public who could be quite challenging and abusive when they’d be waiting too long on an appointment in the first place. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be for the staff during this pandemic!

 

[Onetwofour]

@xoxo GG

I am so sorry to hear that. It's completely crazy how things are going and also hugely unfair. I know what I say cannot do much for your situation and the situations of your colleagues but I do truly hope things will change.

 

[xoxo GG]

No they can’t replace but they can help out and do something; something is always better than nothing. I’m sure the nhs would appreciate extra hands. Not to replace but to help carry the load.


Totally agree. I’m ex-NHS. I left before covid. Being paid £1800 less than I was owed and it taking them 3 months to help it was the last straw for me. There were many, many problems that was just the straw that broke the camels back for me. The bullying culture. The hierarchy. The culture of blame. It was just a horrible horrible place to be. And that’s before you add in the public who could be quite challenging and abusive when they’d be waiting too long on an appointment in the first place. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be for the staff during this pandemic!

We take so, so much abuse day in day out. I love my job, normally, but I honestly wonder is it actually worth it? The strain on my mental health, the times I’m not at home because I feel like I have to pick up bank shifts because I know that if they are there and not filled, patients will suffer. I’m very lucky that I work with such an amazing team who I know feel the same way as I do, but I can’t help but feel disappointed watching the NHS burn down from the inside because of small things that would make a massive difference to the well-being of the staff they need so badly.

 

[Prefrontalmedialcortex]

This is something I’ve been wanting to know - whether vaccines reduce the risk of long Covid. The study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases “shows that in the minority of people who get Covid despite two jabs, the odds of developing symptoms lasting longer than four weeks are cut by 50%.”

Coronavirus vaccines cut risk of long Covid, study finds

The study adds to growing evidence that vaccination helps protect against Covid in a number of ways.

www.bbc.com

 

[AllSeeingEye123]

More good news Society back open, masks optional, social distancing scrapped and less people in hospital now than when restrictions were eased.

 

[Thank(space)you]

My friend had covid-19, she was unwell with it but not so unwell she needed hospital treatment.
Anyway that was beginning of last month, since then she's been really poorly on and off with colds, tonsillitis, tummy bugs etc. I'm wondering if her immune system hasn't properly "recovered" from covid