monga
VIP Member
We're nearly there already ...jabs for those that need them,no lockdowns or border closures ,now all we need is for it to get even milder and we've cracked it .
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monga
VIP Member
If you've been sweating a lot it will leave you thirsty
Doctor_Wibble
VIP Member
I don't doubt that there will be some official and/or diplomatic reason for that being allowed, and any official limo involved in getting from A to B would be considered sovereign territory*, though I confess I have no idea if there was any red carpet involved, or if so, whose land it would be!
Rules for them not being the same as rules for us, I don't doubt it.
* not sure if automatic or needs designation, fairly sure the little flags are a requirement to declare said territory?
AllSeeingEye123
VIP Member
Another day of cases and deaths going up. We are starring to see the result of society opening again as we have to accept deaths.
Notgonnalie
VIP Member
I agree it’s the case with a lot of things. I think instead of the government bribing young people to take the risks they should use the money to put out transparent education which answers all the hard questions honestly. I think the way it’s only shown that vaccines are great and wonderful, paired with the incentivising only adds to scepticism. There should also be a harder line taken to take down misinformation that is genuinely misinformation things like it being a tracker or 5G or all that usual crazy batshit stuff.
Thank you. He’s slowly recovering but just glad he’s alive it was a very scary time for us all aa we were told he was very unstable! Can’t fault the team around him they’re heroes
Notgonnalie
VIP Member
It depends on the variant too. Latest stats show that viral load of some variants is the same whether vaccinated or not so it’s not even reducing transmission for some variants so depends how you look at it.
I think from the stats it’s clear the the vaccine is only more effective id say marginally rather than signficantly I don’t believe a difference of 4% is that considerable, it seems to be more effective in vulnerable age groups which is what was suspected all along but that of course is shouted down by everyone who thinks it’s everyone else’s responsibility to take a vaccine.
Doctor_Wibble
VIP Member
So we have the mirror taking social media posts at face value, and then we have social media repeating and magnifying a mistake (albeit an easily avoidable but not uncommon one).How can you not remember being shown Wuhan at the beginning of all this, as far as I'm aware these images were shown on all the main TV channels and newspapers.
People seen 'dead in streets' in 'zombieland' city amid coronavirus outbreak
WARNING DISTRESSING CONTENT: Video clips and pictures have emerged showing medics in hazmat suits and gas masks tending to people who appear to have collapsed on the street in Wuhan, Chinawww.mirror.co.uk
The India photos that were from a gas leak
Viral video claims Indians ill with Covid-19 but they’re actually victims of a gas leak
On French Twitter, people have been talking about “PsyOps”— which they say are deliberate attempts to dramatise the effects of the Covid-19 pandemic. It all began with a tweet that included footage of…observers.france24.com
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The real villain of the piece is not one but many, all vying for the clicks.
Notgonnalie
VIP Member
Not true.
Public Health England said 55.1 per cent of the 1,467 people admitted to hospital with the Delta variant were unvaccinated, while 34.9 per cent were fully vaccinated. About 99 per cent of infections in the UK are caused by the Delta strain.
To date 74% of the U.K. have been fully vaccinated so far. 88% of the U.K. have been partially vaccinated. The vaccines are emerging to be as not as effective on the delta strain in terms of transmission. Apparently it may lessen symptoms though.
monga
VIP Member
I put the graphs etc earlier on the thread but this is a recent article https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/3/22607538/florida-covid-variant-severe-dangerous
But its same varient deltaThere's definitely a big difference between UK and US unless the US are dealing with another variant that they're not aware ofnot related to that article bit there's something strange going on with US cases... No I wouldn't send them to school if there was a pos case at home.
I feel we lead similar lives and diets.
I know some states low levels vaccines but so do some places in the UK.
I wouldn't send mine in either
But the new rules say you should.
Just wondering if schools will put it down as unauthorised absence this year now isolating rules changed..
That a double jabbed close contact doesn't have to isolate.
Also a non vaccinated child also doesn't have to self isolate as close contact as if we keep denying kids don't get ill or spread the virus other countries say they do.
Doctor_Wibble
VIP Member
OK but I'm sure you can see why it might have come across that way, being just after two people asking about leaving self isolation early it did seem very coincidental and maybe people are just tetchy while re-learning (to paraphrase an old quote) that not all responses following a question are necessarily answers.
CosmicCreepers
Chatty Member
Apparently there is only one person in hospital with COVID in my county…I find that hard to believe considering our case rates are quite high but I think it shows the effects the vaccine rollout is having. Uptake in my area even among the under 30s has been high.
I think it is difficult for us laypeople to really know whats going on. Pfizer was the 1st to be authorised, it's possible that it doesn't have the same long term effect that AZ have. I'm sure there will be research becoming available which will give a better idea of how the vaccines are performing over the long term
Moderna is proving to be most effective against Delta. It's the one I got. Are they giving it out in the uk?
Tatooine_legend1
VIP Member
Anyone know if it's ok to workout the same day as receiving the 2nd Pfizer jab? I'm 33 year old male and I've heard there are some issues with rare heart inflammation with the second jab. I just wondered if it's a bad idea to workout the same day or not.
Where did you get 4% from