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Piff paff puff

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Looks like a thug, commits criminal acts like a thug, called Lucinda and Tarquin, is a thug. Champagne quaffing, university indoctrinated thugs.
 
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Piff paff puff

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Judge's comments from the Just stop oil protest that blocked Dover in '21.

"On Friday 24 September of 2021, the Registrant and 38 other people brought arterial roots into and within the town of Dover and its Port to a standstill for about an hour and threequarters.

The sentencing judge observed that: “…you and all of the others, set yourselves up as judges, jurors and executioners of the ability of, I am satisfied, the 1000’s of people to go about their business that day.” He went on to state that: “In well-planned and concerted action, consciously not in the communities where you yourselves lived, you all, having travelled from different parts of the country, with high visibility clothing, leaflets and determination to get yourselves arrested to promote your cause, you set about bringing Dover to a standstill. Your group, together, sat in busy roads, leading to and from the port, blocking any and all traffic, until one by one you could be arrested and removed from the scene. You claim to have intended to target only the port and HGV drivers, as if the people working in the port and HGV drivers were not worthy of consideration and were merely fair game for your protest. In fact, your actions were totally indiscriminate. You didn’t care who was caught up in the traffic chaos, although I accept that the stories of individual victims, now that you’ve heard them, are ones that you do care about. The small selection of stories of victims, and victims they were, which were read to the Court, just demonstrate that.

The self-employed therapist, travelling to meet a vulnerable young person; the scaffolder awaiting delivery of parts vital to the repair of a road bridge; a young woman travelling to the home of her elderly grandmother, to spend the day caring for her; the lifeboat crew, forced to take two or three times as long to get to the lifeboat station; the builder, late for work, and so late home and missing an important family event. There are the records and the information about the ferries containing hundreds of people, stuck at berths in the United Kingdom and France and possibly worst of all, stuck at sea, unable to enter the port because there were no empty berths. There were many such stories of inconvenience, many hurting innocent people in their pocket, through lost wages. Of even more significance was the great risk of physical and psychological harm that you exposed people to. One such was the victim of the chemical spill at a petrol station. As a result of tailbacks of traffic being so long the specialist ambulance team couldn’t reach them other than by leaving their ambulance and running on foot with what equipment they could carry.

Your so-called blue light policy, of letting emergency vehicles through was arrogant, ill thought out and useless if queues of traffic were so long that emergency vehicles couldn’t even get close to where the roadblocks were. As the morning wore on, there was growing risk, and a real risk of public disorder and violence, as you and the other protesters were impervious to the pleas of ordinary people to let through medical staff, care staff and others, making people more and more angry. Anyone and everyone was merely collateral damage in this crusade, the large company, the subcontractor ,the employee, the self-employed, the emergency worker, the nurse, the carer, the parents and the children. I think of the little boy being taken to nursery school by his father, distressed and upset by witnessing the growing anger of the motorists, in which his father’ scar was stuck, and, in particular, the two toddlers with a neurological condition, trapped with their mother in a hot car for an hour, growing increasingly distressed until other motorists were able to shuffle their vehicles aside and let them escape.

It was suggested during the trial that HGV drivers are used to such delays and that seemingly they’re fair game for your actions, but the nation depends on them to deliver the goods that everybody needs. They perform a vital role for us all. The contents of each HGV load was important to someone, and each driver was a person with their own life to get on with, their own homes, and families to return to and bills to pay. Your suggestions during the trial that somehow the Police were at fault and contributed to the traffic congestion by failing to remand people in custody from earlier actions, and by failing to arrest you all sooner, is hypocritical and ridiculous. They were stationed at the other end of the County of Kent because of earlier protests around the M25. In the end, over 100 Police Officers were needlessly taken away from their duties of investigating crime and keeping communities safe, by having to attend Dover, to painstakingly arrest you all and remove you from the road because you steadfastly refused their repeated requests, that having exercised your rights to protest you now needed to respect the rights of everyone else to go about their business. You wouldn’t have it. Instead, to further your aims, you exploited the Police and the communities in Dover and Kent, in order to get the sensational images you wanted. There are no sentencing Council guidelines for offences like these, but I must still assess culpability and harm. Culpability is high, in my judgment, due to the extensive planning, the travel from far afield, the large size of the group, the strategic targeting of a vital and busy port and the determination to resist all pleas to lift your blockades for as long as it took to be arrested”
That summary must have made the activists day, knowing they'd caused so many ordinary people to suffer.
 
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WritersBlock

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It takes a lot for me to get cross but I’m absolutely furious with Insulate Britain’s M25 strategy and the lack of real action to prevent the disruption and reach a resolution. The injunctions are serving absolutely no purpose, the police are effectively useless (bit of an oxymoron!) and the government threats of action are hollow. What the fuck are they all playing at?

I appreciate that protests, by their very nature, are meant to disrupt but what this shows me is that the government and police are more or less washing their hands of it. It’ll cause more civil discord and I fear it’ll end in violence.
 
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rainbowlemon

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The sad truth is I would bet good money that the driver ends up being charged with assault.

It’s a weird world we live in sometimes.



For one or two of those protesters this is both.
Or a lawsuit about the protester suffering from back injury now, can't work.Emotional distress etc.
 
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Codiaeum

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That was th


We produce 341.5 Megatons compared to China's 11.6 Gigatons and the U.S's 4.5 Gigatons annually.

I was referring to your earlier post of:
"The UK Produces around 341.5 Mt (Megatons) annually. Far less than the likes of Germany."

Well, yes, Germany has more than the UK, but without context this reads a bit odd when there are much bigger fish to fry out there, like the rightfully pointed-out Emirates, China, etc. Germany has ~83 million inhabitants, the UK around 67. Per capita though, the UK is still lower than Germany, which is where things get more interesting, as obviously both are highly developed western countries, so the standard of living and all that is mostly equal.
Germany has a shit ton of car traffic, which will greatly contribute here, not only because people love to drive, but also because basically everyone in mainland Europe needs to drive through it. And then don't get me started on how we get electricity here! From what I get from Statista, the UK has about 20% from nuclear plants, and Germany has ~4%, which will also add loads to the picture. But yeah, feels like peanuts against China and all that, and there the per capita is even higher than in UK and Germany. Just checked out Oman, it's 16.9 against UK's 4.66.... :oops: and the Emirates is even higher at 20.7! That surely ought to be discussed somewhere? While I think it's great if people here question how they use resources and try to do things more sustainably, there are factors out there that you simply cannot compete against by using less electricity at your home.
 
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Codiaeum

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This article in a big German newspaper reported this week that globally, the internet has a proportionally higher percentage of emissions than flying has (sorry, it's behind a paywall). I believe that - I work in tech and the amount of data my current company and especially my previous one generate daily is simply insane and it's only accelerating more and more. There are many more people using the internet than people flying, which also will only stay that way. Flying is getting more expensive and while there's an increase in flights in some groups, for most people, it'll simply stay inaccessible, while cheaper phones are being thrown onto the market and many companies work on making internet-based services such as streaming accessible to everyone (more ad-based services, for markets where subscription fees aren't working).

:D In the honour of that, I purged a couple of newsletters today and closed a couple of accounts I had lying around but never used anymore. Any mail not sent is a good thing if you're not reading it anyway... plus one of those cashback services is seriously annoying by sending me the same crap first via mail and also by post so now they're not sending me anything at all anymore....
 
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Scotch Mist

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When I was a child I remember news reports saying that oil and gas would run out early this century. Nobody was bothered about climate change then, just the fact that supplies would run out.

Being a naive child I thought that governments around the world would put money into developing a new fuel for the future. Its deeply disappointing that the only real alternative appears to be nuclear power which of course brings its own problems and could also badly damage the environment 😟
 
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rainbowlemon

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Hope he stays there . My old friend was an eco nut and also a insulate britain protestor.. I bet he’s taken up this crusade too.

 
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rainbowlemon

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Well done to the drivers who tried to move the Insulate Britain idiots from the M25.

If the Police continue to be f***ing useless at dealing with these law breakers, then what do they expect? They really have no grounds for complaint when members of the public step in to do what they should be doing in the first place.

Moving them on ASAP.

In a statement, Insulate Britain said: ‘We demand credible action now.

‘Proper jobs for hundreds of thousands of people to start the first real step – to insulate all the homes of this country – which pound for pound gives us the biggest reduction in carbon emissions.

At least their not deleting the comments on their page.


Ffs emergency services need to get through.

"There has also been a serious road traffic collision on the anti-clockwise carriageway at Junction 9 involving 4 vehicles, which police, fire service and ambulances services attended."

 
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neroli

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Will it though? They will now want to be seen as "Martyrs"..sacrificing their freedom for the good of Mankind and the Planet.
 
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rainbowlemon

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What position would you be in if you were driving at 60/70mph and one of these idiots walked out in front of you, or didn't give you enough time to brake and you hit them?

Surely you wouldn't be liable if that was the case, as they were the ones at fault and took the risk being in a place they shouldn't have been.
To be honest I think If was still driving I too would stop like the other drivers all did. At 60/70mph I would be afraid of a counter law suit the most and of still being blamed. I can only imagine how traumatic hitting someone must be and all the PTSD it could cause.
 
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neroli

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I would suggest the next Millwall v Leeds game if Dale Vince can get them tickets courtesy of his connection with Forest Green Rovers.

Maybe a slow walk to the Arctic?
 
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