^You should report any company where they ask you at interview about children - it's illegal.
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I love my pets but we are going through quite a lot with a 15-year-old Labrador, and 20-year-old cat, at the moment - both are in their end of life phase which is so awful to witness, and hard for our younger pets too. When they pass the heartbreak will cut deep. We've had these two for about five years (both rescues), and it never gets any easier. Pets do bring so much enjoyment and contentment, but they are expensive, plus they do ruin things (soft furnishings ...). I think when all of our current pets pass, we might just go back to keeping our chickens only (which more than earn their keep by delivering beautiful fresh eggs every day).
It is, but this is (nearly always) done in a, "tell me about yourself - do you have any children?" kind of way.
My neighbours have a dog. Her husband arrived home with it one day despite her saying that she did NOT want a dog. Somebody he worked with, their dog had pups and he decided he'd love one. Guess who does all the walking, vet visits, feeding and minding etc. Clue: it's not him. She loves the dog now but she said when he's gone they are NOT getting another one under any circumstances and I think her dozy husband has now realised how much care they need and how much it costs to put them in kennels whenever they go away on holiday.
Sorry to derail the pet conversation, but what the actual duck are gender reveal parties or pregnancy announcements?? Congratulations, someone came inside you, so you want a gift now?
I've noticed the friend thing too... They have kids and you eventually get phased out. Two of my best friends from school had kids and while we stayed in touch, we never met up without the kids. One of them would always insist we meet up in soft play centres or pubs with kids menus and play areas while the other would only meet at her house, so the kids would be able to play and not get bored. Both were married and had parents who helped out with childcare so it's not like they weren't able to go out for a child free evening occasionally. I like their kids, but catching up with friends just isn't the same when little ears are listening and they are demanding attention! Sometimes I felt like I spent more time playing with their kids than catching up with them. I think if I had kids it would be different because the kids would play together, we'd have more in common as mum friends. Sadly my friendship with both of these people has fizzled out over the years.
Same situation with me! I phased my closest friend of 20 years because our lives were too different. It would always be arranged around her and she would always have one of them with her. Tbh the friendship was fizzling out and we saw each other and spoke few and far between (but I noticed she would always be doing stuff with other friends with kids). When a relative died and she saw via my sister on social media, she apologised for going Mia, but if she had been a proper friend I would have told her the circumstances with said relative and she wouldn’t have found out that way.
I probably sound like a witch, but just because you’ve been friends for x amount of years, doesn’t mean you have to stay friends.
I had been friends with both of these people since school, one of them since primary, the other secondary, so more than 30 years now. I feel like because I don't have kids I'm not interesting enough for them
but to be honest, its not that interesting listening to endless stories of how little Johnny is excelling at piano and has a reading age of 15 and he's only in reception!My lovely grandma used to say there’s nothing more boring than other people’s children. She was so right! I’m sure even if you have children yourself you’re not interested in hearing all about somebody else’s. So for those of us without it’s even worseI had been friends with both of these people since school, one of them since primary, the other secondary, so more than 30 years now. I feel like because I don't have kids I'm not interesting enough for them
True, when I had my coffee shop a regular customer came in and proceeded to attempt to show photos of his new baby. As he scrolled through I said to him that I hoped that he wasn't going to show me a photo of his newborn as I was barely interested in my own so definitely not interested in his. He took it well, in fact he admitted that he wasn't that interested in the baby either.My lovely grandma used to say there’s nothing more boring than other people’s children. She was so right! I’m sure even if you have children yourself you’re not interested in hearing all about somebody else’s. So for those of us without it’s even worse
Pub in the New Forest bans children under 12 many parents triggered
I wish more places would do this, to be honest. I enjoy the company of my loved ones children in moderation, but there are many spaces that I don't want to see children in. The most annoying parents are the ones who insist that, "Having a baby doesn't mean anything has to change! We're still super cool and hip!" and bring their babies/toddlers *everywhere*
Nailing my colours to the mast of children should be neither seen nor heard /tongueincheek
Oh definitely! I work with kids and try not to bore people with stories about them! I have 15 years of experience of working with the under 5s so my friends were always keen to pick my brains about development issues, sleep problems, feeding etc, but never seemed to take me as seriously as their mum friends because I'm not a parent.My lovely grandma used to say there’s nothing more boring than other people’s children. She was so right! I’m sure even if you have children yourself you’re not interested in hearing all about somebody else’s. So for those of us without it’s even worse
I was out with two friends on Saturday for drinks and we went to what we thought was quite an upscale cafe bar, which only opened three weeks ago that serves lovely cocktails and bar snacks. It’s not particularly cheap. We were amazed at the number of people who had small children in there with them. Both my friends have children but said they would never dream of taking them somewhere like that. Apart from the cost etc, can’t there just be some places where you can go for a nice drink without kids shouting and running around everywhere. The toilets were a mess, and some of the tables and seats were filthy when the customers left.
Pub in the New Forest bans children under 12 many parents triggered
I wish more places would do this, to be honest. I enjoy the company of my loved ones children in moderation, but there are many spaces that I don't want to see children in. The most annoying parents are the ones who insist that, "Having a baby doesn't mean anything has to change! We're still super cool and hip!" and bring their babies/toddlers *everywhere*
Nailing my colours to the mast of children should be neither seen nor heard /tongueincheek
Maybe it’s just me, but my tolerance levels are extremely low!
I mean, I get there has to be a balance and there are spaces children should be welcomed into, I just wish some of the parents weren't so bleeping harmless and/or entitled about it.
A few summers ago, I went to a large indoor/outdoor warehouse street food market. Loads of adults drinking, loud music, open fires etc. There was a kid-friendly area which was tucked away, quieter with benches and a play area that the kids could enjoy and everyone looked like they were having a good time.
Then I saw a guy holding a newborn who looked no more than a couple of weeks old. This baby was screaming its little head off, because the modern hapless dad just *had* to stand in the area among the adults, close to the open fires and speakers, and was making no effort to move or think about comforting this baby. Maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old git, but I really have no time for that performative nonsense, when it's the children that pay the price.
A few summers ago, I went to a large indoor/outdoor warehouse street food market. Loads of adults drinking, loud music, open fires etc. There was a kid-friendly area which was tucked away, quieter with benches and a play area that the kids could enjoy and everyone looked like they were having a good time.
Then I saw a guy holding a newborn who looked no more than a couple of weeks old. This baby was screaming its little head off, because the modern hapless dad just *had* to stand in the area among the adults, close to the open fires and speakers, and was making no effort to move or think about comforting this baby. Maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old git, but I really have no time for that performative nonsense, when it's the children that pay the price.
Call me old-fashioned but I don’t think that pubs are or should be a place for children. At least not little ones….
Pub in the New Forest bans children under 12 many parents triggered
I wish more places would do this, to be honest. I enjoy the company of my loved ones children in moderation, but there are many spaces that I don't want to see children in. The most annoying parents are the ones who insist that, "Having a baby doesn't mean anything has to change! We're still super cool and hip!" and bring their babies/toddlers *everywhere*
Nailing my colours to the mast of children should be neither seen nor heard /tongueincheek
I’ve posted on this thread previously. I’m 31 and feel like I will have kids because my family want me to. But it won’t be anytime. don’t get me wrong, I know I’ll absolutely love any child I ever have but I’m selfish, I love doing life with no responsibilities, my partner and I just live for ourself. Go out when we want. Go on holiday. Do some mid week drinking. Whatever we want! We do have a pet though but she’s always looked after too, we have a cat sitter who adores her. Actually I’m on a trip away now with my boyfriend. Cats with the cat sitter. I’m day drinking currently 
I just know when I do have a kid my life will change drastically and I’m just not ready for that. I thought by 31 I’d have been ready but we aren’t. We are so happy though, why change that? I’m quite maternal though lol I love my nephews and nieces but I can hand them back and go to the pub or go on a trip. And that makes me happy haha.
I just know when I do have a kid my life will change drastically and I’m just not ready for that. I thought by 31 I’d have been ready but we aren’t. We are so happy though, why change that? I’m quite maternal though lol I love my nephews and nieces but I can hand them back and go to the pub or go on a trip. And that makes me happy haha.
I thought once I get to my late 20s I'd want kids but the older I get the less convinced I am that I will have them. I quite like the idea of it so its still a possibility but I just really don't like kids... I think I would like my own though and many people said to me they only ever liked their own kid
I noticed the thing with friends as well, luckily at the moment none of my close friends have kids, only friends who live far away but if I see them I already find it so boring as every conversation eventually goes back to talking about kids, it's so boring to me!
Also I'm wondering if I'm not too selfish to have a child. And I'm worried I could never love any child as much as I love my cat
I noticed the thing with friends as well, luckily at the moment none of my close friends have kids, only friends who live far away but if I see them I already find it so boring as every conversation eventually goes back to talking about kids, it's so boring to me!
Also I'm wondering if I'm not too selfish to have a child. And I'm worried I could never love any child as much as I love my cat
Ok so I’m not childfree or childless, I have a beautiful 3yo - but I don’t really like children other than my own, other people’s kids/pics of them are boring, so is mum chat, it’s absolutely not selfish to know that you don’t want children in fact I’d say it’s the opposite. We get called selfish often as we don’t plan to have any more and it’s cruel to have an only child, apparently! So you can’t win either way
Only ever heard people who have siblings say that it's cruel to only have one child, I was an only child and perfectly happy with it!!Ok so I’m not childfree or childless, I have a beautiful 3yo - but I don’t really like children other than my own, other people’s kids/pics of them are boring, so is mum chat, it’s absolutely not selfish to know that you don’t want children in fact I’d say it’s the opposite. We get called selfish often as we don’t plan to have any more and it’s cruel to have an only child, apparently! So you can’t win either way
When I had my coffee shop, I refused to put a baby changing unit in the bathroom. The amount of people that would tell me I should put one in so I would get all the yummy mummies in, duck off, I know my business and ymmy mummies are not a good business model, used to let dogs in, never saw a customer leave cos they saw a dog in there, can't tell you how many times I saw (mostly older women) come in, clock a group of buggies and walk straight back out. I very rarely got buggies in as it was pretty obvious I didn't want them there with their suitcase full of tit and pram the size of a small car.
ETA when my son was little, all his stuff fitted in my normal handbag, I had a mclaren buggy and I didn't frequent coffee shops, I went to friends houses. I've seen way too many toddlers having to sit in a coffee shop for 2 hours while their mothers ignores them and talks to her friends, it's not fair on the child or the other customers. 20-30 minutes in a coffee shop teaching your child how to behave in public and then go to the bleeping park.
ETA when my son was little, all his stuff fitted in my normal handbag, I had a mclaren buggy and I didn't frequent coffee shops, I went to friends houses. I've seen way too many toddlers having to sit in a coffee shop for 2 hours while their mothers ignores them and talks to her friends, it's not fair on the child or the other customers. 20-30 minutes in a coffee shop teaching your child how to behave in public and then go to the bleeping park.
I would have loved to be an only child to be honest! It was my dream
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