Chappell Roan

[Topaz]

I think it is mad how out for blood people seem to be over this scenario - it seems to have snowballed beyond all reason. So “she” asked a kid not not look at her? Ok, so she’s a diva? Get over it! Don’t support her if you don’t want to. The end. It just seems the reaction is so massively overblown compared to the transgression itself!

I think what's getting lost is that the one who caused this situation and the one acting disproportionately was the security guard. Why, when he was working for Sabrina, he got involved with a Chappell non-situation, is truly weird. Whether Chappell asked him to or not, he chose to throw his weight around by yelling at a mum and a little girl, who he made cry. Acting like a tough guy by berating non-threatening people when the situation never called for it.

 

[tellmewhy]

If you’ve got a job you enjoy doing but it’s being ruined by a few arseholes you’ve got a few choices;
Change job - shame because you actually liked the job part
Smile and put up with it - won’t last long
Try and change things - might as well try that before you give up, no?

The parts of her job she doesn’t like are not fundamental to her role. She’s a performer and makes music, she doesn’t need to be nice to paparazzi or accept stalking

 

[Iamthebosun]

I don't know chappell, I've heard her name but that's all. She's all over everything I'm reading today though because she apparently tried to get a nail artist to create her Grammy's nails for her for free in return for exposure. The nail artist has receipts but I'm not sure if chappell has said anything in return but people aren't impressed about it after her speech at the Grammy's.

 

[Justhereforthedrama]

The LGBTQ+ fans she appeals to is probably a big draw tbf

I don’t think we’ve had many musicians who are openly LGBTQ+ from the start and seemingly make that a part of their onstage persona through drag

oh drag is almost passe at this point, its been in vogue for about 10y now, shes going to have to turn to something new for her 'niche' soon. Next album will be interesting!

 

[Topaz]

Thank you for the explanation

No problem!

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

You see Taylor Swift snapped out and about and she manages to not make an arse of herself. Also, part of walking down the red carpet is to be photographed. It’s not like someone is there with a long angle lens snapping her in her garden.

Taylors team has an agreement with them, they are called when she wants to be seen so she can go about her business without them harassing her when she wants.

 

[Merpedy]

if she’s being followed by paps etc outside of her work setting (the red carpet)

All of her recent outbursts at paps have been at public events where she is working

Even this IG comments comment thing is just journalists reporting on what is industry news and was rumoured like a month back

 

[bollox]

But there are multiple pictures ot him with Sabrina Carpenter. He’s her security.

Ofcourse he is…



Both “artists” are owned by Island Records

Do the math

 

[Merpedy]

Interesting article about her Grammys speech.

Chappell Groan: The Misguided Rhetoric of an Instant Industry Insider (Guest Column)

The Grammy winner for best new artist gets respect and true appreciation for her creativity and gumption, but is far too green and uninformed to be the agent of change she aspires to be today.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

This is a questionable article at best

“No one is forcing artists to sign deals. For the one-millionth time — if they don’t like the terms, they can stay independent, own their masters and take the financial risk themselves.”

Ah yes buddy, throw away all the connections and opportunities that signing to a label could make you because you - an insignificant little person in an industry that has plenty of supply - don’t like the terms

She could bargain now because she is a big name and she will have labels lining up to sign her

 

[Ivegone]

Right? They're cute usually! And when they aren't, I just make weird faces at them.

I think we all make weird faces at them makes them smile while serving them

 

[L3moning]

Between this and her comments about boundaries she seems to be developing a bit of an ego. I know people need to not cross the line and think celebs are their besties but if you’re in the public eye, you need to develop a way to cope better.

This one I agree, but I think the stuff about boundaries probably needed to be said.

 

[Merpedy]

I can’t lie I thought her performance would be a lot more interesting than it was at the end. I can’t explain it coherently but she seems to be very Lady Gaga-esque with this mix of bubblegum pink pop thrown in so for her to come out with a medieval Joan of Arc theme was a bit… eh. I have seen some interesting analysis on the representation of it all so maybe it’s just not for me

 

[Baby Shark]

Quite, no one is saying its a vital issue affecting the world.

It's shitty behaviour by someone near the start of their career.

If anything it's a distraction from all the life or death issues in the world, not a declaration that it's more important.

Yep. I love her music and think she’s an incredible artist. The current controversy doesn’t change any of that. I’m also disappointed by her unpleasant behaviour and fascinated by the apparent contradictions in her origin story

 

[Merpedy]

I don't get the fuss at all music-wise. Certainly tuneful and a great voice, but nothing we haven't heard before. Most of her songs sound like more polished versions of early Lana demos, such as Serial Killer.

The LGBTQ+ fans she appeals to is probably a big draw tbf

I don’t think we’ve had many musicians who are openly LGBTQ+ from the start and seemingly make that a part of their onstage persona through drag

 

[Traazers]

I’m just giving my opinion, as other people are. People hate to see the other side of things, very closed minded if that’s the case.
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If debate isn’t allowed on tattle then I wasn’t aware, apologies. Would be a very boring site if everyone just agreed though wouldn’t it?
Moderating isn’t allowed, however so please do not tell me where I am allowed to post and where I am not.

You're repeatedly coming into snark threads and "debating" with people. It's a gossip site. I'm not moderating by pointing that out lol
And you're not even debating, imo, just telling people they're wrong because they don't agree with you

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

All feels very much on purpose as she knows it'll get the posts on social media.

I think she's making fun of gen z and how they'll lap up the most banal stuff and think it's revolutionary.

That VMA performance was like a temu Kate Bush, I expected something far better for all the praise she got on the socials.

Her chart success is all down to getting a Dan Nigro song written with someone that wrote number 1's for Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez.

I really love a lot of her songs but I'm under no illusion that they are anything but bubblegum pop!!! She has a fantastic voice and does put in a good show but I don't get the rabbid fandom around her. She's hasn't done anything earth shattering.

Also, I don't give a fuck if she snaps at photographers, most of them are pricks so he probably did deserve it. I don't get the desire for people to always take the higher ground.

People need to stop looking to celebs as if they are God's to be worshipped.

 

[Baby Shark]

Looks like this was fake but I do still believe it happened and the bodyguard's 'admission' is just to save face.

Why do you think the deleted post was fake? Genuine question, not being snarky.

 

[Traazers]

Me, I have experience that is the reality and if it’s not then that’s on them, you should expect or tolerate abuse at work and if your employer expects you to then you should know your worth and go somewhere that will protect you.

this all started because I said paparazzi are known to goad celebrities, people were sticking up for the paparazzi and trying to say they’re just doing their job, I highlighted that paparazzi are quite frankly, scum.

She shouldn’t have to tolerate abuse on the red carpet, good on her for having self worth which other people clearly lack.

BIB is your opinion, and you can't force people to agree with you, which the majority here don't. You seem to enjoy coming to snark threads and arguing with people, maybe this isn't the right website for you? Or just stick to the TS rave thread?

 

[tellmewhy]

You've never worked in healthcare or customer service, I take it? That's literally all day every day at work.

I'm not saying it's "right" or that we "should" take it but ffs she's doing it for her own ego, not for the good of all female celebs.

I like a lot of her music but she needs a better management team and a good therapist.

I’ve actually done both. If we’re talking about people without capacity in a healthcare setting then that completely different. There are usually policies and markers for what is tolerated though in both healthcare and customer service positions. You can simply hang up or choose to not serve someone in customer service if they’re being outright rude/aggressive to you after you’ve given them warnings and you will usually have the backing of your company when doing so.
I’ve had years of experience in customer service and also as a carer and apart from when you’re talking about people with dementia calling you fat, you’re really not expected to just tolerate people being that rude to you. Also it isn’t something you’re expected to take 24/7, if she’s being followed by paps etc outside of her work setting (the red carpet) then I can imagine that frustration builds up. No one ever followed me home from work or broke laws to take photos/listen to my private conversations.

 

[tellmewhy]

It's utterly unhinged to avenge a grudge against a stranger for a perceived slight 8 months ago. How angry and festering do you have to be to do that, and to even remember it in the first place?




And why does this only apply to the celebrity? What about photographers? By your logic, why should paparazzi have to put up with childish, spoiled divas - who occupy a more powerful social and economic position - publicly ranting and raving at them at their place of work? Photographers would be just as entitled to improve their lot and object to mistreatment.

Paparazzi only have to take photos of celebs. There is no requirement to be nice to celebrities either, by your logic. But I suspect you only apply your reasoning to Chappell because of classism. Photographers occupy a lower social rung, so they have to just accept their superiors giving them public dressings down.

Paparazzi are not stalkers. They have a symbiotic relationship with stars. You say the parts of her job she doesn't like are not fundamental to her role, but actually they are. Without fame and all that comes with it, she wouldn't even make a wage with her own music. She'd have to eke a living doing covers in pubs, clubs and weddings, like other non-famous singers (or live off Grandpa's money).

Not classism at all. I have a little experience with paparazzi (not for myself but a close friend) and therefore have a very low opinion of them based on how they treated her.

She wasn’t just targeting someone randomly, it was retaliation to something they had done previously.