It gave me the ick too when he first said it, but apparently it's a british tradition/cultural thing from what other tattlers saidAsking for the parent’s permission before getting engaged to your female partner is like the least feminist thing you can do in my opinion. Why would you ask her parents if you can marry their 29 year old daughter?
I agree asking permission is silly and outdated but personally I took the “traditional” element of it but just asked my partner to give my dad a heads up. It was in no way that my dad was making that decision for me which is what you’re saying. I’d talked at length with my partner about us getting married and equally my parents knew I wanted to marry him.But shouldn't you talk that through with your partner and not her parents? How is it any of their business? And if a conversation like that is happening, shouldn't it be between the parents and their daughter and not between the parents and the future son in law? Because every implication I can think of is that the woman is not capable of making that choice on her own.
I'm British and married, and if my husband had asked my parents for permission I would have said no on principle. Quite a lot of my friends are married and I don't know one whose partner asked for permission first. It just seems super archaic to me.It gave me the ick too when he first said it, but apparently it's a british tradition/cultural thing from what other tattlers said. My parents would laugh at my bf's face if he asked their permission, I'm not a little child or their property. They would probably say no just to see what he would do .
She spoke to Pete that way even the first few months into their relationship. She always did. Not so much with Oliver - she seemed to respect Oliver more or something. Awful behaviour towards anyone, let alone a partner.The way Carrie speaks in the live kind of reminds me of the way she spoke to Pete on lives near the end: completely checked out, clearly got the ick and kind of mean. The difference is with Pete it was near the end when she'd clearly fallen for Oliver and didn't want to be with him anymore; they actually had quite palpable chemistry at the start. It's weird for her to be like this with Joel so soon and when they've just got engaged, which is proof to me that she latched onto the nearest interested guy and not someone she's actually into.
I find your position very extreme. No, a man doesn't see a woman as a property if he talks to her father (or her parents before proposing). It is a nice thing to do. Of course this is only done when the parents are close, you wouldn't involve your partner's parents (or father) if they had a shit relationship because it would be none of their business.Two things I'd like to point out: First, Carrie always brands herself as a huge feminist, but Joel mentioned that he asked her parents for permission before proposing to her, because it was the right thing to do or something along these lines.
Yes, exactly this. It's more of a cultural ritual rather than actual permission - my husband asked for my mum's blessing before he proposed to me but even if she'd said no it wouldn't have stopped us. (Though there may have been a serious talk between my mum and me!)Again, which is why people don't tend to ask for their in-law's PERMISSION these days. And instead they ask for their BLESSING. Two totally different things because we've moved on with the times.
Already though? She’s not even had it a month! Are they that soft or has she really just not cared for it? I have a friend who has an opal engagement ring that now she just wears for special occasions but until the pandemic and constant need for hand sanitizer she wore daily and it’s still in good condition.Most likely. Emeralds are a soft stone and not recommended for every day wear. Typically it’s why they aren’t suggested for engagement rings (and yes, diamonds being the go to is just clever marketing but there is truth in it because of their hardness)
Yeah and she also implied she was too young to have realised her other partners not necessarily wanting/being ready for kids might have provided issues later in their future but Carrie definitely WAS thinking about kids and knowing she wanted them with each person—she was literally writing letters to her and Alex Day’s future son, who is she trying to kid!? I think it just always stung her that Oliver clearly wasn’t as enthused about starting a family as she was, whereas Joel very much is.Found it interesting she said the other people she was with never made it known they wanted kids with her. Then Joel saying that they’re different because they talk about everything makes it sound like she never knew where she was with say Oliver as he never told her what he wanted (in 5 years!).
I kind of like the traditional element too so asked my now husband to speak to my mum when we discussed getting engaged. As it was he didn’t know he was going to propose to me when he did so phoned her after and was like “Is it okay if I ask Jolly Parsley to marry me?” she was never gonna say no because she loves him so said yes and he was like “Just as well because I’ve already asked her and she’s said yes.” so yeah also got a cute and funny memory from it as well which still makes me laugh!I agree asking permission is silly and outdated but personally I took the “traditional” element of it but just asked my partner to give my dad a heads up. It was in no way that my dad was making that decision for me which is what you’re saying. I’d talked at length with my partner about us getting married and equally my parents knew I wanted to marry him.
But now I have this lovely and quite funny story of this moment of pure happiness between my dad and partner and I absolutely love it.
Everyone’s got different views on it tho so I can see why you feel that way!
Is it just the way it’s catching the light or has the stone on her engagement ring already been chipped/scratched?
She was also drunk with Scott when she texted him that, like the loneliness/horniness really jumped outI caught up on their live.
So she never FaceTimes but when they reconnected they FaceTimed and ended up talking for hours then carried on messaging each other a few days until she finally got frustrated and demanded of him ‘are you going to ask me out or what’?!
At that point he probably didn’t think he stood a chance so then when she said ASK ME OUT he probably couldn’t believe his luck! But she was obviously desperate and just picked him so she could say she had a boyfriend again.
Found it interesting she said the other people she was with never made it known they wanted kids with her. Then Joel saying that they’re different because they talk about everything makes it sound like she never knew where she was with say Oliver as he never told her what he wanted (in 5 years!).
Tbh, I feel like it’s role reversal and Joel is her while dating Oliver and she’s Oliver just ‘settling’!
I did think he didn’t seem as bad as I had thought him and he is clearly besotted but they seemed more like good friends. There was no chemistry.
Imagine being horny for Joel though. My vulva has literally sealed shut at the thought...She was also drunk with Scott when she texted him that, like the loneliness/horniness really jumped out
Just thinking about his whines and his pouts and sweat dripping down his hairy chest is making my food come up my throat. Sorry for sharing that visual everyoneImagine being horny for Joel though. My vulva has literally sealed shut at the thought...
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