This totally reminds me of a narcissistic relative of mine. They have the fakest laugh ever and I fully believe it’s because if anyone else is doing anything remotely amusing, they want the attention back on them so have to laugh over the top to get it.
This. My goodness. I would never contemplate actually going out with someone after that.He continued to message her 8 times after not receiving a reply once?
Ew. Stalker.
Currently catching up on the threads but Joel looks like he chews with his mouth openMore food!!
That face would put me off food
He will be super careful to not piss her off and I think that partly explains his utter desperation in this whole thing. He knows that if he sets her off somehow, she'll be gone. So he over-compensates in order to please her. Total yes man, and that's the only way you can be with Carrie.Agreed. That stuff about how she got suspect about the engagement because he said he's scheduled a recording for an afternoon they were supposed to spend together and he'd never do that, he just WOULDN'T.
No wonder she was annoyed at him for revealing that. It makes them both look very desperate. Especially her tbh. I feel like most women have that one odd guy who’s always messaging you and basically talking to themselves in your dm. Imagine getting engaged to that guyThis. My goodness. I would never contemplate actually going out with someone after that.
I wonder if he ever thinks about that. That Carrie ignored him all those times for YEARS and then suddenly when she's been recently broken up with and is miserable about being single she's suddenly ready to talk to him. That has to sting a bit? Does he not care?He continued to message her 8 times after not receiving a reply once?
Ew. Stalker.
I have mine on mute. It really does put into perspective how low Carrie must have felt following the split. Understandable feelings, stupid reaction.No wonder she was annoyed at him for revealing that. It makes them both look very desperate. Especially her tbh. I feel like most women have that one odd guy who’s always messaging you and basically talking to themselves in your dm. Imagine getting engaged to that guy
Because Carrie was turning 30!Also - they said they want a family but they have “so much they want to do together” before that happens so why the big rush to get engaged?! Why not apply the same logic to being engaged/married?
can confirm.Because Carrie was turning 30!
The age by which if you aren't engaged/in a long term committed relationship your life means nothing!!! you will never do anything meaningful after 30, life ceases to mean anything unless you are madly in love and can prove it!
Yes to this!!!Has anyone else actually … softened … towards Joel after that? I feel like he was somewhat friendzoned (just zoned actually) for years and he’s finally got a scrap of attention and he’s over the moon and will just bend over backwards in order to keep her and keep her happy? He seemed really proud of the little proposal treasure hunt thing, and in fairness it’s very cute! I feel like he’s always had a crush on her and now he’s just swept up in it all!
Still think he can be a bit creepy, but I think that’s just everything combined
I feel like she knew he wanted her, and she needed the ego boost so she just flirted a bit and then they got together. He seems so scared to say no to her, and has completely changed his interests to suit her and to please her! One of my friends did exactly the same to a guy she was friends with and he was so happy to be given a chance that he wouldn’t ever disagree and he’d try and do everything for her, it was actually really sad to witness :/He is definitely pandering to her and her ego. I don’t think he is controlling. I think he is afraid to say no
Yes to this!!!
Let's not forget the SA sympathiser messages and barely contained racism.Has anyone else actually … softened … towards Joel after that? I feel like he was somewhat friendzoned (just zoned actually) for years and he’s finally got a scrap of attention and he’s over the moon and will just bend over backwards in order to keep her and keep her happy? He seemed really proud of the little proposal treasure hunt thing, and in fairness it’s very cute! I feel like he’s always had a crush on her and now he’s just swept up in it all!
Still think he can be a bit creepy, but I think that’s just everything combined
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