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FurCoatNoKnickers

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Interesting to note that her career was built on reality TV and gossiping about salacious details on folk.... she made a lot of money out of doing this. She wasn't struggling in Tescos stacking shelves- she could have left the spotlight and cracked on with something else if she fell out of love with it. I don't know why folk were surprised that her antics hit the same media she played up to (remember when she was dating Harry Styles when he was 17?). Suicide is ALWAYS a tragedy- but the media is not to blame.
 
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Jelly Bean

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Fuck off, Jameela. Always having to insert herself into something. Now is not the time. What if Caroline's family do not want this? Has anyone reached out to them? Prob not.
I know. So bloody tone deaf. I am no expert but I think the British press is incredibly heavily regulated already - the government won't waste time looking into it any further unless lines have been crossed (no idea if they have tbh). Vanity project for JJ.
 
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Elessar

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The whole thing is a sorry mess. I do think it's desperately sad and shocking that anyone feels driven to take their own life, and I think that's the case regardless of how good or bad a person was.

What I have not liked is the way this has been treated after her death, mostly by other celebrities and public figures, who are whipping up a frenzy of blame towards the media, 'online trolls', the CPS, the Police etc. I don't believe the media or trolls 'killed her.' She was clearly a very troubled figure. She had been in the public eye, she knew how the circus works. Does it make it right for people to troll online, or for the media to write salacious and overblown nasty stories? No absolutely not. But she could choose not to engage in that space - you don't need to look at social media, or read the papers. And whilst I think that being needlessly cruel or spiteful to someone is absolutely awful - I don't think that means people shouldn't be called out for their behaviour, or protected from criticism just because they are in the public eye - in fact I think it's important that they are.

I believe the problem is not the 'media' or Love Island or ITV (and by the way I also don't think there's any evidence that ITV treated her differently to Ant McPartlin - they both 'stepped away' from their roles, and statements were made that she would be welcomed back. Not to mention that in a normal role if you were charged with assault then you'd probably be sacked outright. She, of anyone, had more support, and also many more resources to get help for herself than most people.) There is a problem with celebrity culture. People who achieve fame get extremely heightened levels of adulation - from their fans and also those who surround them - their managers etc. They're cosseted and kept in a bubble, where I believe they become addicted to the attention, but also start to lose touch with reality, and believe their own hype. That blinds them and makes them unable to cope with criticism, and of course the nasty underside of trolling makes it also easy to dismiss any negative commentary as 'nasty trolls.' So instead of living in a balanced world in the middle, it becomes a world of extremes where they're only able to accept the 'positivity bubble' as their reality.

Then when you're in that heightened, superficial circle, they're desperate to hang on to it and terrified of losing it - no wonder so many turn to plastic surgery, crazy diets - and of course drink and drugs.

And the circus that has happened since she died just continues the cycle. The hypocrisy is rife. I saw Amber from Love Island 2019 post a 'heartfelt tribute' to CF on her Instagram stories - she's devastated, heartbroken etc. Then just a few hours later she posts a picture of a gift she's been sent by a PR company 'thanks soooo much, this has really cheered me up'. Clearly she then got a hard time over it because her next story was super defensive and saying that the people criticising her were the problem and the reason CF killed herself. Absolutely zero self reflection on the appropriateness of posting about a freebie and stating that it's 'cheered you up' when someone you apparently considered a friend has just died.

And the same is true of many others, who are all posting as if this is an external occurrence caused by others, and only because people were mean - rather than acknowledging that she clearly had a lot of difficulties.

Yes it's very sad that she committed suicide, but that doesn't make her a saint. And I don't for a second think that people should be slating her in the aftermath of her death, but I also don't believe they should be rewriting history, painting her as a perfect individual who was forced to her death and who shouldn't have been accused or charged with the crime, just because she was famous, or because she had MH issues.

Where do you even stop then if that becomes your argument? You start to create a world where famous people are above the law, or people can get away with committing terrible crimes if they are at risk of self harming. Or that people should not be called out or criticised for their actions. There needs to be checks and balances on everything. If I was to change that 'be kind' quote, I would replace it with 'be fair.' And fair means a reasonable balance - people should and need to be called out on poor actions, but should they be trolled, bullied and lied about? No.
 
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Foundmypeople

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Sorry if this has already been mentioned but as much as I hate this guy he’s now getting pulled to shreds on twitter over this. Vicious circle!
By the same twats getting on their soapbox about social media trolls. Like dude, you literally just posted your generic be kind quote, take a leaf and shut the fuck up 🖕🏻
 
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JellyWobbles

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I find it really sad, tragic - shocking.
I hope her boyfriend and loved ones get the support they need right now.

I cannot stand the ‘bandwagon’ of all the celebs sharing Be Kind, You don’t know what someone’s going through etc etc - of course it’s valid, but where were these people paying tributes beforehand? Where is their awareness for mental health before a tragedy strikes? Or is it just another bandwagon hashtag to stay relevant. It’s disgusting really.

Also with everyone assuming her suicide was because of trolls - how do they know? Could it not be that she had serious mental health struggles (obviously) and couldnt find peace? I can’t explain myself in the best way I just hate how everyone is making this ‘story’ suit them. Hope that makes sense.
 
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Han___

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Fucking tragic shit situation for her, her family and loved ones, however, I don’t really feel surprised by what’s happened. She seemed really troubled and obviously it all got too much. There’s no point speculating on the whys and trying to pass the blame, The hypocrisy of the tabloids is nauseating. I hope her boyfriend has a good support system around him. I’m seeing a lot of people online trying the blame the CPS - fucking infuriating. It’s pretty normal for victims of domestic abuse not wanting to press charges, if it were a role reversal we wouldn’t be blaming the police for doing their job
 
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Flowerpotgirl

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Honestly you should read this thread because you clearly haven't... We're all talking about innocent until proven guilty and you are here jumping in shouting about stuff when their is no proof. It never went to court.. Therfore no facts were released

Unless you were on the scene or there in person you don't know

And Reading multiple articles and news papers doesn't make you any more knowledgable than the rest of us

A life was lost regardless of what facts you know or don't know..
Did you see the pics of the bedroom with all the blood? It was even on the front door ffs. No matter how you want to spin that narrative, something happened there that shouldn’t have. He called the police on her. Yes, it is sad she died, but you can’t rewrite what actually happened to make her the victim of that incident. We do know what happened -we saw the pics and heard the call.
She was fearful of going to jail, because that was the evidence that would be presented. which is reasonable. And she possibly would have done some jail time, but her life wouldn’t have been over.
 
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Itsallaboutmememe

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I don't even know how to put how this post made me feel into words, but I really hope you are in a better place now 💗
Oh god yes
i duped his ass and I’m with an amazing guy now
being with abuser guy taught me I’d rather be single than be with someone like him
thank you xxx
 
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Lollipop19

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I can safely say I have never hurt someone like this. Never has it occurred to me to bash my bf over the head with a lamp WHILE HE WAS ASLEEP and I was snooping through his phone. I am sorry she was so fearful of being convicted that this seemed a better option. She hadnt been fired from her job, and was going back for the next series. She did have mental health issues, and should have been seeing someone for help definitely. But it wasnt ITV’s responsibility to make sure she was fine. It was something occurring outside of their jurisdiction.
However, I am very shocked and saddened she died needlessly, make no mistake.
Didn't realise so many people were there on the night of the incident as reliable witnesses.
 
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Gamu

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The Andrew Brady photos in the DM today looked set up to me. I don’t know why there would be Australian paps waiting around for him unless they’d been notified of his location, or why he’d be sitting down outside with his head in his hands like that. Could just be me being cynical though.
 
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Mrsturnerreturns

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True. Private messages which she then shared with the world less than 48 hours after CF took her own life.
I don’t think anyone is as bad as that PT guy and Steph Pramface Davis. They are both absolute scum with all the morals of alleycats. There’s him posting CF’s sweat patch and her going on every media outlet in the country harping on about their friendship when I bet she’d only met CF once in a party where they shared a rolled up tenner in the bog 🙄
 
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Corky

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The world and their wife posting about this.

Former PT’s sister posting a video for views and attention. So, so insincere.
Exactly, all those celeb friends frantically trawling for pics of caroline,but checking the photo to make sure they look the best.
 
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gypsymoth

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i don't think many on here understand domestic abuse and how it truly affects people

why was she allegedly so worried it would all come out at trial?? after all, she pleaded not guilty so would have nothing to worry about there.......would she??

mental health should not be used as an excuse or a reason for this.......no way should it....and should not be minimised as so many are trying to do.

the police had body cams and the 999 call itself is very telling.

and i speak with experience as i early died at the hands of my ex.....but the twat was mentally ill so he got all the sympathy,untill he did it to the next girlfriend (who i informed, and the next (who i also informed, and the third, who i also informed ) he finally ended up in prison after affecting 4 women lives and 8 children between us

so i have zero sympathy fo domestic abusers
 
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Doc

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Wow, so insensitive and distasteful making it all about themselves and their own agendas within a few hours of her death being known... seriously honour the woman as a human being if you want and feel sad about her passing. But don’t capitalise on her suicide before the earth has even turned by making her a poster child for your own crusade. That’s fucking despicable.
 
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lime

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Could not agree more
I get really angry when people reel out the old "double standard, women get a free pass to abuse" bollocks. Its simply not true. The world is much harder on women. Public opinion is much harsher. Men are allowed to redeem themselves, women are vilified and demonized.
I sound dramatic cos I'm tired after a night shift and I'm not trying to derail this Caroline Flack thread onto a wider feminist argument. What I am saying is that men and women are equally kind, horrible, vicious, gentle as we all human. The difference lies in how our characters are viewed. Gazza will always be a lovable rogue yet he broke his wife's arm!

Apols for lack of coherence but I hope I'm making my point!
Well said

Kobe Bryant was charged for rape and more or less apologised for raping the woman despite the case being dropped, but has died a legend and an icon. So when people say "if it were a man, you'd all rejoice" I'm literally like where are the examples in history of this ever happening?!
 
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KLRDN

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the assault she was being done for was her self harming over him cheating and she got upset that he’d walked in on her doing that and threw a lamp at him. So many people have done nothing but give the poor girl shit since. She didn’t deserve any of it.

So so sad.
But where did this rumour come from? Sounds like a bullshit attempt to downplay what she did and blame it on the victim ie look what you made me do.
 
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Takinginthetea

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Ive just watched that stephanie davis video. Good on her, saying what we're all thinking. 2faced celebs. I do wonder how many picked up the phone to see how she was truely doing. Bloody next to none i bet!
 
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Takinginthetea

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Well done you! Seems silly to say that but social media is toxic and takes over our lives. I need to do the same and delete Facebook and Instagram as it takes up so much of my time and energy. So bad for mental health!
silly but I worry about losing touch with people if I deleted them
If you loose touch with people getting rid of social media then they weren't worth knowing. When i got rid of FB i gave the people who i spoke to through that my number. If i heard from them great, if not...fuck them! 🤷‍♀️
 
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Bizarrebbq

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I'm probably going to get a ton of hate for this but here goes.

All over Facebook/Instagram etc are people saying "be kind" & writing tributes to her. They are slating the media, trolls & even the CPS. They are saying she didn't deserve any of the negative stories about her recently.

Has everyone forgotten what she has been charged with? How would you feel if that was your son or daughter who had been the victim of domestic abuse? It's a very sad story & I feel for her family but no one knew what she was thinking or feeling. The blame shouldn't solely be on others. She needed to shoulder the responsibility of her actions. If it was a man, she wouldn't get off so lightly. To blame the CPS is disgusting. The obviously know a lot more about what has gone on than any one of us.

And before anyone slates me, I suffer with severe depression, have been suicidal, have been in an abusive relationship & have lost friends to suicide. Things aren't always black & white but let's not make out she was a saint
I’ve not seen anybody at all make her out to be a saint. Just that she didnt deserve to die. Which she didnt
 
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