Don’t forgot the pandemic would have affected how many people could go into the hospital etc
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This! The mum says she's phoned ambulance & went to the hospital. Saffiya & Ashley have never said that publicly so that implys they noticed the signs that it was more than constipation or colic. However the mum then opened a Facebook group named Azaliya's journey or something like that asking for gifts/donations & when S put a message out saying they don't endorse it she didn't shut it down straight away she changed the name to Azaliya's grandmother's journey. She then filmed herself leaving all of the gifts she had received on S&A doorstop, this was in the baby's final days, so possibly at that point they cut her off.
The mum also said she phoned S after she had been at the hospital 2hours!
So to me that seems as exactly as you say & the mum has to be centre of attention & 'the truth' she keeps banging on about is simply that she took her to the hospital.
I wonder if the brother still talks to her or he is a go between
Her catching a break isn’t a problem. The constant begging for freebies is the issue
They did imply she was kinda stealing all the donations though.So tbf that would be why she filmed the donations being dropped at their doorstep. Not saying it right but
I agree with so much & i could be repeating what some of you have said already, but i have to get this off my chest! I didnt see the live, but i saw safs stories & my God its hard to watch at this stage how ash treats her its horrible 
The body language says it all! The distance, the face on him when he looks at her/camera, never any affection or love shown. I know hes broken aswel as saf, but its obvious she loves him & would do anything for him. Shes showing up supporting all he does & she talks about him- which is normal in a relationship- but him?! He only mentions saf if its beneficial to him or the charity etc... He never even hugs her or smiles, gives her a kiss NOTHING 
its heartbreaking to see. He needs to remember- saf carried, gave birth to Azaylia, shes her mother & his partner for years! SHE should be the most important thing in his life & his priority! Its just so uncomfortable to see the poor girl being treated like dirt 
i know that sounds harsh but its blatantly obvious. Like could u imagine if ash came behind saf & gave her a hug, kiss & smiled at her wen she was filming? It would make her day! For all the effort he puts into sports etc how much effort would it take to make saf feel loved & happy? A minute outa ur day! And she deserves it so much & she needs it from him! I hate the beggy tit but God love her, all she wants is him to show her love & affection which she deserves. And look how loving he was with Azaylia-rightly so, but why wont he love her amazing mother like that? He should be strong for SAF & support & help her, not just the charity.
The body language says it all! The distance, the face on him when he looks at her/camera, never any affection or love shown. I know hes broken aswel as saf, but its obvious she loves him & would do anything for him. Shes showing up supporting all he does & she talks about him- which is normal in a relationship- but him?! He only mentions saf if its beneficial to him or the charity etc... He never even hugs her or smiles, gives her a kiss NOTHING its heartbreaking to see. He needs to remember- saf carried, gave birth to Azaylia, shes her mother & his partner for years! SHE should be the most important thing in his life & his priority! Its just so uncomfortable to see the poor girl being treated like dirt i know that sounds harsh but its blatantly obvious. Like could u imagine if ash came behind saf & gave her a hug, kiss & smiled at her wen she was filming? It would make her day! For all the effort he puts into sports etc how much effort would it take to make saf feel loved & happy? A minute outa ur day! And she deserves it so much & she needs it from him! I hate the beggy tit but God love her, all she wants is him to show her love & affection which she deserves. And look how loving he was with Azaylia-rightly so, but why wont he love her amazing mother like that? He should be strong for SAF & support & help her, not just the charity.
Did someone on here not recently say that all the go fund me money was still there? So they couldn’t be stealing it (if that was what the mum was implying). Not sure if that is the case though I haven’t looked myselfHer catching a break isn’t a problem. The constant begging for freebies is the issue
They did imply she was kinda stealing all the donations though.So tbf that would be why she filmed the donations being dropped at their doorstep. Not saying it right but
I must say though I feel so sorry for Saf. Ashley doesn’t look warm towards her at all and then her mum is behaving like that. Whatever has gone on between them, she has lost her baby and is heartbroken so the mum should just be there for her regardless. Not writing cryptic messages on social media and having family members say things publicly. Sad has to see that, like she’s not got enough tit going on in her head. And if that is true about dumping the gifts when her Grandaughter was dying is just bleeping disgraceful. I’m actually in shock.
It doesn’t show on go fund me pages if any money has been withdrawn it will only ever show the total raised
they mentioned in the podcast with Giovanna that Safs mum called the emergency services after they had a few hours away, but prior to that they had taken her to the doctors.
I followed the other threads on Ashley and Saf and always said the same on there, how they grieve should not be judged by others unless you have been through the same yourself. 5 years ago I lost my son at a late stage in pregnancy and I was so utterly traumatised that I did things that I know now were very out of character but seemed completely normal to me at the time and to be honest, some things still do. I understand that people will have opinions and I have my own (for example I agree that Ashley seems cold towards Saf). But anything they do, the excessive exercise, the let’s go champ, the colour orange, even the birthday party, I just can’t judge as that’s literally all the have left and all they can do to keep breathing. Sending love to the posters who had been through child loss (sorry I couldn’t find their posts to tag them). It made me cry my eyes our reading your posts 
Oh I see, thank you for letting me know x
No I meant that Saf and Ash implied that her mom was stealing donated gifts or something. And that is why her mom took the said donations and left them on the doorstep. Absolutely agree it’s awful thing to do. But then accusing your mom of that to the world wasn’t great either. I don’t understand why it bothered them that Safs mom was accepting gifts in the midst of all that trauma. when there are sooo many accounts that have zero connection to them profiting from their baby’s death. And Saf often likes said accounts posts
Ohh sorry I’ve got confused there. I do remember the post Saf and Ash put out but I didn’t make the connection at all that they were referring to her mum.No I meant that Saf and Ash implied that her mom was stealing donated gifts or something. And that is why her mom took the said donations and left them on the doorstep. Absolutely agree it’s awful thing to do. But then accusing your mom of that to the world wasn’t great either. I don’t understand why it bothered them that Safs mom was accepting gifts in the midst of all that trauma. when there are sooo many accounts that have zero connection to them profiting from their baby’s death. And Saf often likes said accounts posts
I think it's sweet that they get comfort from things like the sky, etc.
I totally agree with this! I just came on here to say it made me really sad to see when saf was filming him all smiley and happy and saying how proud she was of him and he literally looks like he has the ICK like he can’t even bear to look at her let alone be affectionate. And she’s just posted a video with herbrother (again) and ash has arrived at Newquay but he’s miles away from her like he can’t bear to be near her. I genuinely don’t think she realises I really think she is oblivious. Although I hate to say it reminds me kind of how my own partner is with me. A few of my friends have picked up on the fact that when I am doing videos while we’re out etc he is just sat on his phone ignoring me etc. And I found a video the other day where I am filming us both and I’m smiley and happy and he does a fake smile for the camera and then goes dead straight faced and looks away. Thinking of and looking and saf and Ashley it just makes me think god, is this me?! Is everyone laughing at me and feeling the same about me!I agree with so much & i could be repeating what some of you have said already, but i have to get this off my chest! I didnt see the live, but i saw safs stories & my God its hard to watch at this stage how ash treats her its horrible
Screenshots requesting no gifts to be sent & people saying her mum left everything on her doorstop
Seems like group disappeared when she passed away
Seems like group disappeared when she passed away
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Bless you been exactly where you are now and it’s not a nice feeling, my heart breaks for Saf and even if Ashley doesn’t want to be with her anymore at the very least she deserves respect she’s Azaylias mommy
He showed more love hugging complete strangers on that beach tonight
Just heartbreaking that Safiyya had to do a post to say they have no affiliation or involvement with any Facebook group. Especially as it seems it was her own mother that managed that group.
I can’t imagine losing a child, or having a strained relationship with my mother. So to have both, I have no words
My boyfriend won't even let me film him. I have to ask his permission to upload a picture of him to my socials. Getting a photo with him is like gold dust. He hates getting his picture taken and doesnt use Facebook or Instagram. He also isn't affectionate, and doesn't tell me he loves me. But that's just the way he is. Weve been together 10 years! He's always been like that. I know he does love me, his actions show me he does. He just has issues saying those 3 words, and i don't know why.
Don't really know what my point is but i think I'm trying to say that every relationship is complicated and people never know what happens behind closed doors! I agree with all the comments about Saf being pushed away by Ash, it really doesn't look good. But I believe he does love her, i think he's just so traumatized by grief that he can't show it properly. I hope over time they can work it out. It would be heartbreaking if they couldn't after all they've been through.
I just lurk on this thread, as I don’t want to judge 2 parents grief but Ashley is so cold to Saf it’s hard to watch. I don’t think she feels worthy of him, she treats him like a god by trying to constantly fish for his attention, his time and for any affection. That should be given naturally, not by doing 25 mile bike rides and shouting ‘let’s go champ’. He seems like he thinks his grief is more worthy and more painful than Safs. I don’t dislike him, but I dislike how he seems towards Saf. I say seems as I see a snapshot on Instagram ect. She looks so consumed by her grief, and it looks like all she wants is a hug from him! I think he forgets she grew A for 9 months, gave birth and spent time with and now she’s gone.
I mean, it could be true, it could be lies. It's like when battered women say their husbands arent abusive. That they fell down the stairs or hit their own heads on the cupboard?! We'll never know. Body language speaks though. He cant even put his hand round her waist or touch her leg.Just been watching their live loads of people asking about her and ash she says they are so strong and spend lots of quality time together off camera so I dunno
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