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farewelltulip

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New video on Ashley. Premieres tonight.
Agree with all the comments saying people who feel the need to defend their fave from any criticism have way more of a parasocial issue than the original critics. They act like they’re personally Ashley’s BFFL and defend her like they live inside her head, and then somehow act like the “other side” are the ones who have an issue with assuming they know her.
 
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rhil

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At this stage I feel like she is just playing her fans, knowing she can get away without posting for so long without explanation. It would literally take her 1 minute to give an explanation.
 
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farewelltulip

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Lmao I just noticed Broey Deschanel wiped all of the non-praising comments from her video about Ashley, mine was deleted where I questioned why her fans were somehow in the wrong for finding it concerning that Ashley exposed vulnerable info about her sister without her knowledge. So apparently Ashley’s fans have the exact same intolerance for any slight criticism that she does.

If anyone hasn’t watched the video it’s wild. She compares criticism of Ashley to the hounding of Princess Diana (???!?!?!??!!!??) for what? Having people ask her to wear a mask, apparently?
 
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Clover123

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She posted a day or so ago on tiktok showing messages from her break up with the odd looking guy 😬 she seems in a very weird place mentally, I guess loads of us are with the pandemic eh, but she is very reliant on boys and hook ups and male attention, I think it does feed into her self esteem a lot, so I wonder what chaos we will see from her in the next few weeks
 
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Anongirl1383

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Yeah. All of this.

Also I unfollowed her but your post prompted me to go check her page and like...

I thought this was a really sincere post at first... then it turns into a fucking ad.

Nah, fuck off Ashley
HAHA Ashley's entire existence is to appeal to the male gaze.

And it's sad.

Also specially WHITE MEN. Ashley has never been seen with a POC, it's always white white white. She even made a twitter pointing out how all her men have been white

That's actually partly why I can't warm up to her. She claims to be a socialist and whatever... but only seeks attention from white men?

Again with the queer baiting from Ashley
Ashley's type is white men. We all know she wouldn't date another female unless it's to make a 'threesome', appeal to straight men .
 
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subrexic

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her new ig post gave me a jumpscare tbh that Halloween costume did absolutely nothing for her
 
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farewelltulip

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The whole thing reminds me of Rohini Elyse (who ironically has a similar aesthetic to Ashley) being found out for pretty awfully racist behavior + being criticized for not giving a fuck about Covid, and then spiraling into a whole “cancel culture is BAD it destroys REAL DIALOGUE” fiasco, whilst still deleting all critical or questioning comments trying to start ~real dialogue~ with her. Except it’s not even Ashley whinging on about “cancel culture” (though she does delete comments), it’s her fans. I know I don’t even get this torn up when people criticize me to my own face, idk how people are so distraught over others questioning the behavior of a girl they do not know and who could not care less about them?
 
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farewelltulip

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Tbh I wouldn’t expect her to say anything about Palestine if she never even said anything about Myanmar, where her family is actually from.

If she did say something people would probably attack her for being insincere anyways, as a lot of influencers have been for taking a stand, can’t win. I as a normal person don’t post abt my politics on social media, doesn’t mean I don’t donate directly or attend rallies etcetera. Ashley def doesn’t do either of those things lol, but in general social media activity =/= real world activity.

Palestine is also a genuinely controversial topic in the US compared to something like Myanmar that a lot of people have no opinion towards, she wouldn’t risk losing subscribers or sponsors.
 
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rhil

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We are closing in on the 6 month mark! If she comes back do you think she will address her absence, or hit us with sponsored posts? I’m feeling like we could see a new apartment tour sponsored by function of beauty and just no explanation.
I don't know if we will get a full explanation, she'll probably make some *quirky* comment about it in the middle of a video
 
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LYRA234

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It's this one:



I don't know, there's practicing your jokes and then there's this where it looked like she was close to tears because she couldn't get it right.

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, this is torture, no wonder she doesn't do YouTube video's anymore. Is this what creating a YouTube video is like? I wish other creators would share this aspect to their process.

I am amazed, I definitely saw the points where she looked like she was going to cry but then it's like she had an internal chat with herself and was just determined to get the segment done to her standards and after that it just seemed she was OK to keep going till she got what she wanted.
 
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slamvs27

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How is she able to pay her rent rn? Is she just doing Insta sponsorships? She had such a short-lived YT career lol.
 
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Mr Sparkle

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I think something else that annoyed people was that she made sustainability her brand but she clearly never believed in it.

Like she was thrifting since her early videos but I don't think it was ever about sustainability until that became a trend (honestly, the rate she thrifted at and the number of clothes she used to own should have been a hint!). Then she did the Amazon ad which really put people off her because it was actively against her brand. She ignored anyone pointing out her hypocrisy, switched off comments on that video and never mentioned it again.

I also think the fact that you can't critique her without a million stans coming for you is off-putting too.

Overall I think some of it was the J-Law effect. She tried so hard to be quirky and relatable and played up that side of her persona - supposedly living in the sticks growing up, being a broke student, being open about sex and misogyny, self depracating Jones etc - that eventually people saw that it wasn't genuine. If you ever saw that behind the scenes video where she spends literally minutes trying to get a joke out *perfectly* and restarting over and over again, you'll know how much of her personality was a performance. (It was really bad, felt so sorry for her.) And we still expect some genuineness from youtubers despite knowing that some of it must be for show.
I didn't see that behind the scenes video - did she post it? Definitely would be interested to see!
 
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LYRA234

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I think something else that annoyed people was that she made sustainability her brand but she clearly never believed in it.

Like she was thrifting since her early videos but I don't think it was ever about sustainability until that became a trend (honestly, the rate she thrifted at and the number of clothes she used to own should have been a hint!). Then she did the Amazon ad which really put people off her because it was actively against her brand. She ignored anyone pointing out her hypocrisy, switched off comments on that video and never mentioned it again.

I also think the fact that you can't critique her without a million stans coming for you is off-putting too.

Overall I think some of it was the J-Law effect. She tried so hard to be quirky and relatable and played up that side of her persona - supposedly living in the sticks growing up, being a broke student, being open about sex and misogyny, self depracating Jones etc - that eventually people saw that it wasn't genuine. If you ever saw that behind the scenes video where she spends literally minutes trying to get a joke out *perfectly* and restarting over and over again, you'll know how much of her personality was a performance. (It was really bad, felt so sorry for her.) And we still expect some genuineness from youtubers despite knowing that some of it must be for show.
Ahhhhh, the old sustainability line, I see. I don't think I watched enough of her early early videos to hear her talk about sustainability. Because honestly, I don't think I ever heard her mention the word, or perhaps I blocked it out. I did not view her content to be sustainable in any way lol she just wants to look cute, let's be honest. But, I can totally understand the backlash if she tried to speak on that, I wish 99% of fashion influencers would just stay away from the word, it is completely opposed to their position/job on Instagram, Youtube etc.
 

mushkala

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Her sister is getting married next spring (won't post obviously for doxxing reasons). I wonder if Ashley has completely cut them out or will be there