Anti-Conspiracy Theories #7 Google told me, so it must be true. Sheeep!

[witchofwestbyfleet]

It's being reported today as "not treated as suspicious" - in other words could be suicide or a clear medical cause. That won't stop the usual suspects one bit unfortunately ...

 

[Ellelalala]

This is wild.

 

[caroleffinbaskin]

Yaaaawn, they just don’t get tired of it do they? Such a toddler mentality.

 

[Sideboard Bob]

Well!

 

[OwlAtTheMoon]

Well!

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What the actual duck! And how does Wolf explain how these shedding-cramp-induced-women know for sure the unknowing women perpetrators were vaccinated (anonymous women at plays, gigs, conferences and previous hotel bed occupants!)? Right, she doesn't. Thought so. What a load of tired, yawn-inducing old CT bollocks this continues to be.
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Also, Naomi Wolf is the one Naomi Klein consistently gets mistaken for, which she's written about in her new book Doppelganger.

 

[Sideboard Bob]

I love the idea of her counting them.
”What? You’re the 47th women this has happened to!”

 

[Onetwofour]

Just posting this here

 

[Merpedy]

… not sure where to stand with this given the whole situation with some conspiracists storming a council meeting or something a few months ago

Sunak expected to limit powers of councils in England to curb car use

Exclusive: Potential plan to restrict measures such as 20mph speed limits and levying fines from traffic cameras alarms travel groups

www.theguardian.com

 

[Moth]

… not sure where to stand with this given the whole situation with some conspiracists storming a council meeting or something a few months ago
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Sunak expected to limit powers of councils in England to curb car use

Exclusive: Potential plan to restrict measures such as 20mph speed limits and levying fines from traffic cameras alarms travel groups

www.theguardian.com

Anybody desperate enough to claim that 20 mph speed limits are against 'British values' will say any old bollocks.

 

[Doctor_Wibble]

… not sure where to stand with this given the whole situation with some conspiracists storming a council meeting or something a few months ago

If it's the one I'm thinking of, nobody actually stormed anything, iirc a Glastonbury council(?) meeting, the part where a member of the public can present a topic of concern.

Clip did the rounds several months after the event, undated so treated as news... Not sure the town had ever gone beyond 20 minute neighbourhoods briefly mentioned in passing and deciding the town was too small to bother.

And a crowd of clapping seals is not a regular feature of such meetings, they were there for the show.

 

[Merpedy]

If it's the one I'm thinking of, nobody actually stormed anything, iirc a Glastonbury council(?) meeting, the part where a member of the public can present a topic of concern.

Clip did the rounds several months after the event, undated so treated as news... Not sure the town had ever gone beyond 20 minute neighbourhoods briefly mentioned in passing and deciding the town was too small to bother.

And a crowd of clapping seals is not a regular feature of such meetings, they were there for the show.

Liverpool: Protesters disrupt meeting over non-existent policy

About 30 protesters were removed from Liverpool Town Hall by security in 15-minute-city "confusion".

www.bbc.co.uk

It was this one in a Town Hall when the idea wasn't even being discussed or considered by the neighbourhood committee or the Council. They were just being irritating for the most part so "storming" was a bit of a hyperbole

I was trying to find the article today in the morning when I made the post and instead found a whole load of articles, mainly concerning Oxford:

News that the city council adopted a plan to embrace the 15-minute city model prompted fierce backlash, with local groups and public figures alleging that authorities planned to restrict residents to their immediate neighborhoods and strictly police their movements. A rally attend by thousands in Oxford last month claimed to be protesting plans to reconfigure the city as a "Stalinist-style, closed city" and the eventual enslavement of local citizens.

The outrage has been fanned by popular right-wing media figures and politicians, who seized on the issue as an outrageous example of government overreach.

"You will only have 15 minutes of freedom here in the U.K.," said the far-right media personality Katy Hopkins, who compared the scheme to pandemic-era lockdowns and claimed authorities will use facial recognition technology to police residents.

News commentator Mark Dolan denounced the plan as "dystopian," and similarly warned that the city planned to use "numberplate recognition cameras, installed everywhere" to create "a surveillance culture that would make Pyongyang envious."

The issue even made its way to the House of Commons, where Tory MP Nick Fletcher described 15-minute cities as an "international socialist concept" whose ultimate purpose was to "take away personal freedoms."

Don’t lock me in my neighborhood! 15-minute city hysteria sweeps the UK

The academic behind the hit urban planning concept slammed ‘flat-earthers’ spreading fake news about livable cities.

www.politico.eu

There's also this article in The Guardian which links to other articles related to this "conspiracy" and how it was seemingly pushed by a few Tories here and there:

Tackling the 15-minute cities conspiracy means fixing inequality | Richard Partington

Under layers of misinformation, UK inequality is rising after decade of flatlining progress for most people

www.theguardian.com

 

[Moth]

How long until Sunak makes Andrew Bridgen a minister?

 

[Deeznutslol]

Anybody desperate enough to claim that 20 mph speed limits are against 'British values' will say any old bollocks.

It is against British values mate. If your government doesn’t allow you to drink 12 pints, drive 90 mph and then wrap your car around the nearest tree trunk whilst not wearing a seatbelt, YOU ARE OPPRESSED.

 

[Doctor_Wibble]

It was this one in a Town Hall when the idea wasn't even being discussed or considered by the neighbourhood committee or the Council.

Doh, I remember that one too now... The memory fail wasn't my fault, it was because I was trying to use a tiny screened phone on the train and couldn't concentrate, honest...

But that's an interesting handful to read, anticipating a mix of chortleworthy WTFs.

They were just being irritating for the most part so "storming" was a bit of a hyperbole

Ah I thought you were quoting the sort of headlines these things get given, with the triumphant declarations of sticking the it to the man.
TBH disappointed at lack of storming, standards are slipping!

OTOH if they turned up for a meeting that wasn't happening then they would be correct to say the council had no response...

 

[Moth]

A government minister (Mark Harper, Transport Secretary) has just made a speech at the Tory Party Conference in which he vowed that Tories will stop "the misuse of 15 minute cities ... what is sinister is the idea of local councils deciding how often you can go to the shops". Not a sinister as a government pedalling ridiculous conspiracy theories in order to attract votes from the hard of thinking.

 

[L3moning]

A government minister (Mark Harper, Transport Secretary) has just made a speech at the Tory Party Conference in which he vowed that Tories will stop "the misuse of 15 minute cities ... what is sinister is the idea of local councils deciding how often you can go to the shops". Not a sinister as a government pedalling ridiculous conspiracy theories in order to attract votes from the hard of thinking.

Not that politicians making tit up to appeal to their voters is a new thing, mind. Just seems to be going slightly off the edge.

 

[Ensay]

I was reading earlier that the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine has been awarded to a pair of scientists who developed the technology that led to the mRNA Covid vaccines.

The anti vaxxers will be seething!

 

[Merpedy]

I did see a tweet a few days ago that more or less explained that the 15 minute cities are controversial purely because people think they will need a license/permission to leave their designated area to another area, and how the Tories could very quickly settle those fears by saying that this won't be the case, even if that was never a policy to begin with (not that it really makes a difference judging by recent events)

Oxford council specifically clarified their position on this too:

Oxford City council have released a statement after receiving online abuse based on the current theories being portrayed on online platforms, which has dispelled many of the myths surrounding the plan.

In essence, some of the facts that have come from the statement are:

• Six traffic filters are set to be tested for a minimum of six months around Oxford city from 2024. This means that between 7 am and 7 pm, private cars will need a permit to get through. St Cross Road, Thames Street, Hythe Bridge Street and St Clements 7 days a week, Marston Ferry Road and Hollow Way Mon-Sat)
• Drivers using the filters who do not have a permit, or are not exempt, will face a penalty charge notice of £35, which will increase to £70 if not paid within two weeks.

I tried finding the tweet and funnily enough it comes up with a bunch of videos from China and how they use facial recognition systems and plate readers. It seems that this has been a driving force in the conspiracy spreading and the nonsense in Oxford


I would love to know who came up with the strategy of digging up a situation that happened in early 2023 to win votes though

 

[Deeznutslol]

I was reading earlier that the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine has been awarded to a pair of scientists who developed the technology that led to the mRNA Covid vaccines.

The anti vaxxers will be seething!

The reaction on twitter has been absolutely hilarious . They’re all stamping their feet saying “HOW CAN THEY GET A NOBEL PRIZE FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN’T WORK?” and “WHY ARE MURDERERS BEING REWARDED WITH A NOBEL PRIZE??” .

I love it, big up the mRNA technology.

 

[Ensay]

The reaction on twitter has been absolutely hilarious . They’re all stamping their feet saying “HOW CAN THEY GET A NOBEL PRIZE FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN’T WORK?” and “WHY ARE MURDERERS BEING REWARDED WITH A NOBEL PRIZE??” .

I love it, big up the mRNA technology.

It was the same in the comments of the Daily Mail article. A load of people with a fraction of the intelligence and scientific knowledge of the Nobel Prize winners, but of course they know best because of a substack post their mate made.

I know I shouldn't look, but sometimes the Daily Mail comments are like a car crash - you can't look away.