My husband has one of 'those' Aunts (you know) she swears she had photos of Nessie that were taken while in Scotland in the 70s. When Aunty went to pick the photos up the shop had mysteriously shut down, never to open again.meet me there mainecoon! we’ll find her
Yes lol. Realistically, cash isn’t going anywhere. Larger businesses and organizations may be moving away from it, but if you know any small businesses, you’ll know that they absolutely love cash as it allows them to avoid tax more easily lmfao. Where I live, I’d say that most people pay in cash at the shops, it’s rare to see people pay with card.I was wondering if the cashless society can be classed as a CT. I was reading the thread on here earlier and it feels like some of the discussion is veering into that territory - with comments about how "they" want us dependent on cards and electronic payments and how we must fight it by using cash.
Like I said there, I still see plenty of people withdrawing and using cash. A lot of CTitsts give the following quote from Orwell when making their arguments:
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
But if I use my eyes and ears to say I don't buy that a cashless society is coming any time soon, based on what I see around me every day, I get told I'm wrong.
Yes, my local corner shop doesn't accept card unless you're paying over a certain amount and it's obvious they prefer cash overall. I also regularly visit a cafe that has a sign saying "card accepted, but cash preferred".Yes lol. Realistically, cash isn’t going anywhere. Larger businesses and organizations may be moving away from it, but if you know any small businesses, you’ll know that they absolutely love cash as it allows them to avoid tax more easily lmfao. Where I live, I’d say that most people pay in cash at the shops, it’s rare to see people pay with card.
Also if the world goes to shit and Putin shuts down the banks, do they really think they’ll be smugly lining up to pay in the supermarket with fistfuls of cash whilst the rest of us starve? No darling, I’ll be robbing the place x
As the saying goes, "and so it begins"Also if the world goes to shit and Putin shuts down the banks,
I'm fairly sure that's illegal nowadays, but actually getting that sort of thing enforced is like pulling teeth.Yes, my local corner shop doesn't accept card unless you're paying over a certain amount
I thought it was too, and maybe it's an old sign that they 'forgot' to take down, but I pay by cash anyway - partly to avoid the barely disguised eyeroll when I get my card out for a small purchase.I'm fairly sure that's illegal nowadays, but actually getting that sort of thing enforced is like pulling teeth.
It's because they think it's so the government can track all our spending. But presumably they also own bank accounts and also pay for some purchases with cards, so they can also be tracked there. Plus most shops have CCTV, so they can be viewed spending their cash anyway.I think there are probably advantages and disadvantages to shops using cash. It's still got to be counted and banked and I guess that it presents more of an opportunity for theft.
I don't use cash very often these days and I don't see the problem if we move to a more cashless society. It's not as if how we carry out transactions has never changed before. I think a lot of the scaremongering is by people who don't really understand what money is.
I hope we dont become cashless as theres situations where a card payment isnt best, like if you want to give money to the homeless for example. Also charities how often do we use our change to donate. So someone willing to give change might not want to donate by card instead so charities will get less. Also lots find it easier to budget if its physically with themI think there are probably advantages and disadvantages to shops using cash. It's still got to be counted and banked and I guess that it presents more of an opportunity for theft.
I don't use cash very often these days and I don't see the problem if we move to a more cashless society. It's not as if how we carry out transactions has never changed before. I think a lot of the scaremongering is by people who don't really understand what money is.
Oh absolutely, if it all goes south, I’m heading straight for the conspiracy theorists and preppers. Thank you very much guysYes, my local corner shop doesn't accept card unless you're paying over a certain amount and it's obvious they prefer cash overall. I also regularly visit a cafe that has a sign saying "card accepted, but cash preferred".
And regarding your latter point I made a very similar point in the cashless society thread, though predictably it got ignored. There'd be looting galore and cash wouldn't be an acceptable currency - it'd be seen as useless metal and paper. Mind you, the same thing applies to preppers. They make videos about their hauls, yet if society went to shit, it wouldn't take long for people to figure out where the preppers live and, well, you can guess the rest.
Though I suppose in the preppers' minds they think they'll run a cosy little self sufficient family should the shit hit the fan. Nice idea and why take it off them?!
Isn't that what's happening? I'm old enough to remember being handed a pay packet full of cash every week. Everybody hated the idea of being paid monthly into a bank account but that's pretty much universal now..... gradually transitioning away from cash over a long period of time ...
Pretty much. I’m not sure why people are suddenly so concerned about it (Isn't that what's happening? I'm old enough to remember being handed a pay packet full of cash every week. Everybody hated the idea of being paid monthly into a bank account but that's pretty much universal now.
And not only that, many of the ones who scaremonger about a cashless society are the same ones who roll their eyes about the media apparently scaremongering about climate change.Pretty much. I’m not sure why people are suddenly so concerned about it (oh wait, I know why, it’s because it’s the latest CT to go viral and is being heavily pushed by fear mongerers like Piers Corbyn), times are changing, technology is becoming more and more advanced, the reduction in the use of cash has been happening for years now and money in the form of coin/paper was an outdated concept 20 years ago.
As I say tho, as long as the transition towards a cashless (or near cashless) society happens slowly and is properly managed so that people like the elderly and vulnerable are not left out, I don’t really see the issue. Although tbh, I still don’t think we’re going to see cash disappear completely any time soon.
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One thing I do find a little ironic and funny, is that some of the people who are now moaning about a cashless society are the same people who were heavily advocating for entirely digital currencies such as bitcoin lmfao.
I don’t know why anyone would want to survive either lol. controversial maybe but I think a lot of people, especially the bunker type American preppers, don’t really want to “survive” so much as they want to be able to live in a lawless, purge film style society where they can shoot whomever they want with no rhyme, reason or consequences.So do the people who believe in the imminent danger of a cashless societey have all their money stuffed in their bed mattress? They shouldn't make themselves too easily identifiable..
To be honest, having my family coming from an ex-communist country that saw its currency crashing down in the early 90s, I am more afraid of a currency collapse than the increasing use of cashless methods of payment. We alreay are in some level living in a society where money is more and more virtual. As money can be created by banks just by writing codes, most of the money of this world don't exist physically. If tomorrow we would all run to the bank to withdraw our money, we would create a financial collapse as banks wouldn't be able to give us all of our money.
I think it's good to keep both options but I have to say I am very happy to be able to order things and book events online. I am sure most of those fear mongers didn't stop to use online transactions for this kind of purchases.
As for surving the apocalypse as a prepper, it reminds me a movie I watched ages ago. All the people who had ressources such as gardens, seeds, tools to survive were targeted. Everybody - them included were living a miserable life, where no one was trusting anyone. I did think at the time, in this case I am not sure to want to survive the apocalypse lol.
Fucking disgusting tbh. Now, let me guess, the CTists who write that rag are now going to claim that they're being silenced by this poor grieving mother and her lawyerWoman sues a conspiracy theory newspaper that continually falsely claimed her son died from a Covid vaccine:
The Irish Light: Woman abused by paper which falsely said vaccine killed her son
Promoting a Covid conspiracy theory, the Irish Light's editor accuses the mum of "massive fraud".www.bbc.co.uk
Their campaign against her sounds awful.
I agree. To use their terminology, these fears about a cashless society seem to be a bit of a ‘distraction’ from the Dickensian nightmare that the UK has been slowly falling into for the past 15 years. In terms of what is happening to the economy, a reduction in cash should be the least of your worries.To be honest, having my family coming from an ex-communist country that saw its currency crashing down in the early 90s, I am more afraid of a currency collapse than the increasing use of cashless methods of payment. We alreay are in some level living in a society where money is more and more virtual. As money can be created by banks just by writing codes, most of the money of this world don't exist physically. If tomorrow we would all run to the bank to withdraw our money, we would create a financial collapse as banks wouldn't be able to give us all of our money.
I expect so! Heaven forbid they admit they got something wrong.Fucking disgusting tbh. Now, let me guess, the CTists who write that rag are now going to claim that they're being silenced by this poor grieving mother and her lawyer.
Disgusting this, and an extension of what we've seen on here and on twitter etc, baselessly linking the covid vaccine to multiple, notable deaths, often using the 'died suddenly' hashtag.Woman sues a conspiracy theory newspaper that continually falsely claimed her son died from a Covid vaccine:
The Irish Light: Woman abused by paper which falsely said vaccine killed her son
Promoting a Covid conspiracy theory, the Irish Light's editor accuses the mum of "massive fraud".www.bbc.co.uk
Their campaign against her sounds awful.
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