I dunno about anyone else but personally I would actually quite like it if, when the pandemic is over, mask wearing were to become more embedded in our culture the way it is in East Asia. I doubt it'll happen though, western culture is too individualist.
I hate wearing a mask but my answers to those questions are 'as long and as often as I need to' and 'as many people as is necessary and prudent'.Apologies, and back to the scriptinteresting though that you jumped on my comment like a fly on a jam sandwich though. Why be on the CT board and so irate though? Your viewpoint is in the majority. Most people are vaccinated, your viewpoint is the popular, "unselfish" and worthy one ...the world applauds you. I respect your right to vaccinate, wear a mask, fill your boots, it's not my business. Just a question though if I may? How long are you prepared to wear a mask? The next six months, year, two yeats, forever? How many boosters? Every six months, every year? How young is too young for masks and jabs? Babies, toddlers, pregnant women? Asked respectfully.
please always hit report if users on here cross a lineI saw that post and couldn't believe it. I hope they are staying indoors if that's their attitude but I know they wont be. I just bit my tongue. Another batshit post referred to people "catching covid". Yes because its all a hoax isn't it you nutters?
I've not really looked at this thread before but was having a nose this morning, saw this and honestly felt a bit sick. I see the poster has come in and said it was a joke.I like to think that whatever end of the debate we are all on, we all have basic human decency, but anyone who posts a comment like the below is utterly disgusting. Who verbalises that kind of thought process when so many are bereaved?? No shame at all. To think I lost my lovely dad so young when people are spewing arrogant crap like that.
“I've never worn a mask or had the jab, so if I'm responsible for culling a few I apologise unreservedly”
Well this member of the older generation doesn't believe any of them. In my experience CT-ers come from all sections of society.I was watching a YT video last night (not that sort) of a lady called Siobhan (Violin MD) who works in a hospital in Canada. She explained they are currently facing a 3rd wave and that they have had to makeshift 2 new ICU wards in her hospital as there are more patients being admitted with Covid than ever before. These were all from 'variants' which spread more and have a more rapid effect. There were many younger patients. Towards the end she explained how 4 patients went 'bad' all at once and one of them may not survive, they had called the family in to say their goodbyes. How can you see something like that and believe it isn't real?? This lady has work 24-25 hour shifts throughout the pandemic, as have thousands and thousands of frontline workers. I've said before that my boyfriend works in a Secondary school in England. After the holidays, a large amount of students were off because of Covid. A year 8 was off and my boyfriend asked why, just out of curiosity really, and her MOTHER had taken her to an anti-mask protest in Manchester! We live in Nottinghamshire! And this was when you weren't meant to be travelling out of your area. Similar incident, a group of year 11's had a party. Who allowed that to happen? Who said 'yeah, sounds good'? We live in a somewhat deprived area, with low income and lots of people relying on top-up benefits to get by (thanks British government, must be why you got in again) and some students don't wear masks in school (they are supposed to) because their parents won't let them. CTs do really pray on 'poor' people to try and distract them from other things.
Recently I saw an article saying a 12 year old was taking her school to court over mask wearing. A 12 year old! I'm sure she didn't come up with that idea herself. The mask wearing in schools is down to government guidance, the schools in question have no say. But, as good old England is, they always try to blame anyone but the government, even turning on each other. I start work again in my pub next Monday and I'm TERRIFIED because it's full of Covid denying old men who loudly voice their opinions like any of these rules were our choice. This is a potentially 'loaded' question, but does anyone find that it is more the older generation who tend to believe every CT they read?
I think most people believe that if you are going to make a claim that goes against the mainstream narrative, it should be demonstrably robust. The dedicated CT-er automatically believes that the mainstream narrative is a lie or has an ulterior motive. They will believe pretty much any claim that confirms this belief usually without doing any of the 'research' that they are so fond of telling others to do. Not that their understanding of 'research' is likely to help them:What irks me the most is that they are not willing to believe (or they will question) most things reported online or TV (mainstream media), nor scientific journals (because they may not be peer reviewed yet. BUT will believe a post from a website no one has heard of, a video that has been put together by every Tom, Dick and Harry and they are happy to take this as truth. No questions asked.
Take for example one of the latest "bombshells" being promoted by conspiracy theorists...I think most people believe that if you are going to make a claim that goes against the mainstream narrative, it should be demonstrably robust. The dedicated CT-er automatically believes that the mainstream narrative is a lie or has an ulterior motive. They will believe pretty much any claim that confirms this belief usually without doing any of the 'research' that they are so fond of telling others to do. Not that their understanding of 'research' is likely to help them:
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main stream media for sure get their orders from the government, especially when it comes to covid,Take for example one of the latest "bombshells" being promoted by conspiracy theorists...
57 Top Scientists And Doctors Release Shocking Study On COVID Vaccines And Demand Immediate Stop to ALL Vaccinations
A group of 57 leading scientists, doctors and policy experts has released a report calling in to question the safety and efficacy of the current COVID-19 vaccinen-volve.com
Wow that sounds serious if it's coming from 57 'top' scientists and doctors (they always seem to be 'top'). So my reaction is to say well, who are these 'top' scientists, what credibility do they have, has their research been peer reviewed and published?
So I checked about ten of the named 'top scientists. Where I could find information they appear to be a mix of anti-mask, anti- lockdown, anti-vax, hydrocholoroquine promoters who have been previously called out for spreading misinformation about Covid-19. One of the 'top' scientists is 'Bartomeu Payeras Cifre', identified as a 'biologist' but is actually a painter with no record of scientific publications. He believes that Covid-19 is caused by 5G.
It's not clear whether the research has been peer reviewed and published yet. The link above is to a publication called 'En Volve' who say they were given a 'pre-print' of the manuscript and that readers should share it widely. En-Volve are a right wing, conservative publication which offers the following disclaimer : “The information presented on or through the Website is made available solely for general information and entertainment purposes. We do not warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of this information. Any reliance you place on such information is strictly at your own risk. We disclaim all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on such materials by you or any other visitor to the Website, or by anyone who may be informed of any of its contents.”
It will be interesting to see if the 'advance' manuscript is ever published and peer reviewed. Another of the 57 'top' scientists is Peter McCullough. He co-authored a previous article (coincidentally from a different 57 'top' scientists) that promoted use of hydrocloroquine in the treatment of Covid-19. It was published in the journal "Reviews In Cardiovascular Medicine" of which, no doubt entirely coincidentally, Peter McCullough is Editor-in-Chief. The peer reviewers are secret but it was done astonished quickly taking only 17 days from submission for review, corrections and acceptance. Baylor, White and Scott Medical Centre where McCullough works disavowed the contents of the article.
Does this really sound like 57 'top' scientists and doctors that you should trust?
Likewise anything that they view or read (that is not mainstream) is also a narrative which they choose to believe without questioning and looking further into.I think most people believe that if you are going to make a claim that goes against the mainstream narrative, it should be demonstrably robust. The dedicated CT-er automatically believes that the mainstream narrative is a lie or has an ulterior motive. They will believe pretty much any claim that confirms this belief usually without doing any of the 'research' that they are so fond of telling others to do. Not that their understanding of 'research' is likely to help them:
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I don't think that 'get their orders' is exactly the right phrase. In general I agree that the mainstream media in the UK tends to be supportive of the Tory governments in all things. However, some of the more obvious suspects (The Mail, Telegraph etc) have been critical of the government lockdown policies and less supportive media has questioned how the government has handled the pandemic overall and advanced calls for a public enquiry. Some of the mainstream media has reported on conspiracy theories but the fact that they have not supported them says more about the conspiracists than it does the stance of the media. It's different in America of course where media giants like Fox are consistently spreading conspiracy theories.main stream media for sure get their orders from the government, especially when it comes to covid,
but I’m more concerned about these crazy sites that post bare faced lies, (that vulnerable people fall for) in an attempt to create anarchy and to encourage the public to revolt.
especially when CT’ers follow and believe no matter what the truth is. It’s just taken as fact.
You're right. The Plandemic 'documentary" has been debunked on numerous occasions but still circulates (even on Tattle!). An early critique can be found here:Likewise anything that they view or read (that is not mainstream) is also a narrative which they choose to believe without questioning and looking further into.
Take for example the documentary ‘Plandemic - The Hidden Agenda Behind Covid-19’ which promotes misinformation against the vaccine and has occuring themes around loss of free speech/choice. When you unravel it bit by bit you will see that it is full of false and misleading statements.
I have to strongly disagree with you regarding the masks.I've not really looked at this thread before but was having a nose this morning, saw this and honestly felt a bit sick. I see the poster has come in and said it was a joke.
People seem to forget, or lack compassion when it's not happening to them. I often wonder if anyone would change their view if they saw how covid can affect a family / a person but I'm guessing not
As for masks - I hope they stay - even if it's just in hospitals etc - surely makes sense. I quite like wearing mine tbh!
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