I blocked her on the last thread, strike #3@AnnaBelt, you are bold of coming here and saying "Anna Bey is irrelevant", trying to convince the ladies here that the focus should be on someone else... So the information and work from several ladies since thread #1 count for nothing??? So suddenly Anna Bey isn't a monster we should fight against? I'm eyeing you since your first message, always trying to shift the alignment of the collective thought of the threads while trying to pass out as this highly intelligent being that some ladies here, in your mind, can't keep up with. Curious thing is, even though being so smart as you pose, you could not create a username by yourself, "borrowing" from the genius of @J.Tarac. Whatever is your agenda here, you are not succeeding as you thought you would.
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These alleged "smart scammers" are obviously not very smart. What you pompously named "Anna Bey Inc." is hardly a profitable operation. In her best year Anna managed to steal from her subscribers maybe $300,000 - hardly enough to cover "professional television quality set up" (no idea what you're basing this assumption on, the quality of her videos certainly doesn't scream "I'm using professional grade equipment"). Advertising revenue from her videos would hardly cover even part-time office rent. If "Anna Bey Inc." is the best operation these alleged "smart scammers" can come up with - their competition needs not fear.
I like to watch because the more comfortable one gets, the more they slip in their tracks (if they are fishy).
Hello, my truly elegant tattle ladies! It’s been a very busy couple of weeks for me and I’ve got a lot of backreading to do!
May I digress from the current topic, I just want to know: does it mean Anna Bey, the ehleghanz guru, the internationally-renowned thought leader, the color consultant, is oblivious to the fact that anyone can rock a red lipstick?
Anna, Anna, Anna:
Warm skin tone = red lipstick with yellow undertone
Cool skin tone = red lipstick with blue undertone
May I digress from the current topic, I just want to know: does it mean Anna Bey, the ehleghanz guru, the internationally-renowned thought leader, the color consultant, is oblivious to the fact that anyone can rock a red lipstick?
Anna, Anna, Anna:
Warm skin tone = red lipstick with yellow undertone
Cool skin tone = red lipstick with blue undertone
Honey, you should not teach Anna. Let her be stupid on her own
Well, I understand your sentiments (and we all enjoy watching her stupid ways
), but I’m just keeping up with the tattle tradition of giving the answer key, so to speak, after she slipped or failed at something - fashion and etiquette. We’ve done this before with her clothes choices, wineglass holding, botox behavior, and countless others.Thanks @BastinedeBeaumanoir. Enlightening as always. If Anna does have a scarce appearance in Geneva only on weekends, that would explain why she is never called out by locals for never being at events though nearby. If she has previously recorded content, that would explain her thinking she can afford to be lazy. Most successful YouTuber are super organised and have their content planned out for months. To be honest, I think it's a huge insult to them if Anna is masqueradung with 1m, which she didn't put the hard work in to earn like others did. Some influencer upload weekly and their content is superior to Anna's. I have no idea why any of her minions would even are so much as to infiltrate the Tattle feed and muddle her timeline and locations. Seriously, maybe you should question why you have such blind loyalty to somebody you don't know? Maybe it's because you have let her become you messier and her word is all you have to hold onto in the hopes that the impossible for you is the possible if Anna says it is. There are many influencers who have had fake personas and lifestyles. They don't have a high IQ. They don't have investors backing them. They just fake it while the camera is rolling. If Anna is who she says she is, where is her "posse" or her stream of pics with "movers and shakers" to form a "resumé statement" for her?
Can you imagine is Anna comes out saying that her marriage to JH was short lived because she found out he was secretly gay and lying to her.
The minions would lap that up but it would be no surprise to us here.Thank you for your heartfelt response, S.A.
It's really clear that, on your own, you would have continued to grow and flourish without AB's course.
I suspect that's the case for many women who ponder paying for her course or for those who end up paying for it. AB knows there are a LOT of women out there who are interested in self-improvement, and who are willing to make the effort towards it. And, they are willing to invest in themselves.
That's admirable.
The problem I have with AB is that she takes advantage of exactly those positive energies. Women are searching, but AB and what she has on offer is not the answer.
What gets me really angry about AB is that she plays on women's insecurities. ALL women are insecure. We all doubt our looks, position, qualifications, acceptance. All of us. No matter where we are from or the supposed level we have reached. That's because we live in society as it is at this time. All of us, all women, get a lot of messaging from the society that surrounds us.
So, really, AB and her scam has an unlimited potential audience of subscribers. This is what keeps her going. She knows this to be truth.
She's not alone. There are entire industries built on the self-doubt rampant amongst women. (Anna and her Gucci belt falls prey too).
If AB were just some middle-aged woman giving out free advice on YouTube, none of us would be here. She could be ignored. But AB is charging $300, $1,000, for video lectures that have almost nothing to do with strategies for improving a woman's life. She's taking money from women who often cannot afford it, and who could have been investing that money instead in real things that really matter.
But Anna also simply doesn't know what she's doing. All she knows of "elegant high society" is the JetsetBabe life and escorting. She's mistaken apples for oranges.
I agree with you completely that AB's video on Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy was eye opening. Anna is completely and utterly clueless, and she demonstrates it here. Anna frames Carolyn as an ordinary middle-class girl who used remarkably smart strategies to land an American prince. This implies that if one follows AB's course material, any other woman can have the same strategic luck. Except that she's gotten Carolyn Kennedy completely wrong. Carolyn was never middle class. Not even close. She grew up in Greenwich, CT, a town I am very familiar with. It's the East Coast equivalent of Beverly Hills. Her mother remarried when Carolyn was very young and her step-father was a prominent surgeon. In the days before the hedge fund and tech guys made billions overnight, people in professions like Carolyn's step-father made up the 1%.
Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy grew up rich, and part of that 1%. She was surrounded by country clubs, yacht clubs, and the movers and shakers of NYC area society life.
You are right that Anna has the dress rules for the actually rich and powerful completely wrong. Women in Carolyn's former town and the surrounding areas DO wear skinny jeans, all the time. (The only women I've seen in the newly fashionable loose or mom jeans are the bloggers and vloggers representing brands). There is, in fact, sort of a local dress code, even for casual looks, but Anna would never in a million years be able to figure it out. It would be like her studying Martians. Anna doesn't have the energy or attention span to decipher it, in the same way that she gets English country style completely wrong too (and ends up advocating wearing ill-fitting jackets and weird horsey boots around random towns and cities). People who are from these areas see right through it, and would see through her in a heartbeat. (And yes, fake-affluent logo-wielding brand addicts get a lot of eye-rolls).
I can tell you that if Anna turned up in Carolyn's Greenwich in her white cropped flared pants with white sneakers in November, what people would do is feel sorry for her. They'd seriously believe that she must not have the money to dress properly -- meaning seasonally. i.e. for the weather. She might be offered a coat because she's probably cold, or a job at a pizzeria, maybe, but no one would go to lunch with her. She'd just appear strange.
And this is a woman who is literally selling the secrets to joining elegant high society. For $,1000.
You don't need AB. You are well on your way to improving your life on your own time and exactly as you wish to. So many resources are available out there ( for free) on things from etiquette to culture to style to finance. You sound like you should be the teacher, rather than the student. I imagine that's true for many women who ponder joining AB's nonsense. Again, the fact that so many are susceptible plays on our society's tendency to keep us all off balance a bit, to doubt ourselves, to think we aren't enough or can't move ahead using our own common sense and energies. But we are enough, and we can.
As you say, almost all of this is common sense. Pair that with some energy and no one has to pay $1,000, especially to a former go-go dancer who is most definitely not a member of anybody's high society anywhere.
The danger, apart from simply wasting that $1,000 (although what a waste), is that since Anna knows nothing of what she preaches, but DOES know the JetsetBabe and escorting life, a generous portion of the life lessons she wishes to impart end up gravitating to those topics. But women who become her subscribers get caught up in the appealing sales messaging and by the time the escort vibes start, they've already paid their money and have given her their attention. So dangerous.
Anna is a woman no one has ever seen rubbing shoulders with the elite. Ever. She's inappropriately dressed for every occasion. Her claim to fame is that she got someone (who, exactly??) to fund her stay at a summer session of a Swiss finishing school. Big deal. It's been years since then, and there's no evidence AB has "leveled-up" in any way. She's got no home, no job, no wardrobe, no cozy routine, and no warm relationships. My guess is that anyone who is thinking of spending $1,000 on AB's "course" already has many of those things. They are women who are far, far, ahead of her in life. It's hard to get past our hard-wired insecurities to realize that.
And on that her scam depends.
You sound like you'll improve whatever areas of your life you wish to improve, using your intelligence and instincts. I truly wish more women would do the same. None of them need AB or the empty nothing she's selling.
The way things are going here, one more thread and then all work from earlier threads will be replaced by the "critical thinking" that Anna Bey is a mere victim. Open your eyes, people!
On the next thread this should be included on the first page's warnings.
30 threads and Anna Bey is still in business, no one has touched Carl outside of wiki not recently since I have been here. You realize why I am a big skeptical. I don’t want to be a useful idiot generating hype for free so Carl can make money of his Anna Bey scam. You become & promote what you focus on the most. I don’t care for Anna. You realize I don’t see people going for the money, who is behind her and dedicating equal time to people like Carl then finding who else is involved in the Anna Bey scam makes me smell a rat. I might be wrong.
I follow the money and that’s where I dig. Getting hate here for digging under Carl makes me suspicious this is controlled opposition to maintain interest in Anna Bey and her boring repetitive content. I might be wrong and just maybe I might be right or why the defensiveness when I go after Carl the big boss? Carl wants his projects to generate money via hate but wants peace of mind for himself, at least that is what he is paying for. Those bankrolling Britney or Miley Cyrus don’t want to experience hate for themselves. Frankly fame is a toxic business model but too many young women are attracted to it like moths to a flame
I follow the money and that’s where I dig. Getting hate here for digging under Carl makes me suspicious this is controlled opposition to maintain interest in Anna Bey and her boring repetitive content. I might be wrong and just maybe I might be right or why the defensiveness when I go after Carl the big boss? Carl wants his projects to generate money via hate but wants peace of mind for himself, at least that is what he is paying for. Those bankrolling Britney or Miley Cyrus don’t want to experience hate for themselves. Frankly fame is a toxic business model but too many young women are attracted to it like moths to a flame
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I wouldn't be so sure. I do think Tattle has made a contribution.
What's Ratty's revenue lately?
Looks like zero to me.
I'm sure she's in debt to backers who've floated funding. (Let's be real - AB is all about the "get someone else to pay" life, so there are others who've been funding her masterplan). Like the sharks on Shark Tank they probably get a cut. But a percentage of zero is still zero.
Her funding, from them and from course sales, has dried up.
A few weeks ago AB made a few very, very, brief visits with a photographer in tow to places that are stereotypically "affluent" -- in her mind -- to take a few Disney Princess pics in her fairy gowns. She apparently believes there are still a large number of women who want to dress up in fairy gowns and buy her course -- but are there?
What will she actually be able to say in her next course? If there is one.
I'm not convinced at all there there will be a next course.
She's homeless, in a scam "how do I get out of this?" fake marriage. Her wardrobe is a hodgepodge from clearance sales and charity shops. She has absolutely no new content to peddle. What, at this point, is she even selling?
Those who've loaned her $$ likely see this situation too. The faucet of cash has stopped, both from those who hold her debt and her scammed students. The pressure, it seems to me, must be on.
AB thought that she could turn a background of JetSetBabe/escorting and a few weeks at a Swiss etiquette school into a pile of gold. She'd have eventually realized that nope, that's not going to happen because all such scams run out of fresh material and steam.
With Tattle, "Tthe End of Affluence and All Hope of It," as her next school should be named, just came a lot quicker. Really, Tattle has made a difference.
Tattle will no doubt continue to make a difference - look at the light now shining on everything from AB's super questionable acquisition of passport and personal data to questions about trafficking, several kinds in fact. Have patience. Things will unravel.
Meanwhile, until we get more info on the more serious questions, I'm just oddly curious about how AB is managing to eat and where she is managing to live during the downturn of her fortunes.
Hey folks... Been away for some time, and had to catch up a little bit. Sorry @Less is more for the delay in answering.
Not sure what happened here:
And - yeah, right - I'm getting paid for feeling strong disagreement with a wannabe-etiquette-&-style-consultant!
My reason to join these threads was because I also almost fell for the $1K course although I didn't need it. I wanted to share my view, so other girls & ladies won't fall either. And maybe also point out that it all comes down to proper education in order to build a better life (a life full of value, not just full of props, such as [fake] designer handbags), no matter where we're starting from. Good taste & good sense of style & elegance are bonuses money can't buy.
Why am I writing this? Because I'm sure there are many more silent readers like me and those who joined recently. And this work might keep other women from wasting their money.
Edit: I also got to see ads on Instagram ("annabey sponsored"). Apparently she's in need of more organic followers (I don't follow her).
I read it the same as @Stella_Luna ...The part that shocked me the most was the final sentence. “Frauen dürfen doch nicht nur einem Mann hinterherlaufen.”
“Women mustn’t chase just one man.”
This means that they should chase several menWhat about the smile and the glance in order to be approached…?
@RelentlessCynic You speak German if I remember correctly. How would you interpret the sentence?
This is proof that AB/AR didn't stop looking out for a wealthier man, even being married.Women shouldn't follow/chase after only one man. That would be my take. (Checked with German husband, he agreed)
Edit: in the meaning that women are not going after only one man at the time... Serial dater...
Not sure what happened here:
Right... I am totally jealous
And - yeah, right - I'm getting paid for feeling strong disagreement with a wannabe-etiquette-&-style-consultant!My reason to join these threads was because I also almost fell for the $1K course although I didn't need it. I wanted to share my view, so other girls & ladies won't fall either. And maybe also point out that it all comes down to proper education in order to build a better life (a life full of value, not just full of props, such as [fake] designer handbags), no matter where we're starting from. Good taste & good sense of style & elegance are bonuses money can't buy.
Why am I writing this? Because I'm sure there are many more silent readers like me and those who joined recently. And this work might keep other women from wasting their money.
Edit: I also got to see ads on Instagram ("annabey sponsored"). Apparently she's in need of more organic followers (I don't follow her).
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Are you comparing this pathetic scammer to Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus? (Not that I'm a fan of either, mind you, but that's a different conversation.) If these alleged "investors" specialized in "businesses" like Anna's they would have gone bankrupt a long time ago.
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So here is Anna on her IG Story trying to be an expert in Psychology but has no degrer of it, and I slammed her for it
I would like to mention something, especially when one of us wants "efficiency" in taking Anna Bey down.
Let me ask some of you: are all of us familiar with Onision? While I am not normalizing inefficiency and tit, but in Onision's case, despite him being worse than Anna Bey, took looooooonger before Onision finally being demonitized on YouTube. Prior to that, his Patreon was removed. Can some of us be a bit patient?
Also, Anna can't be bashed if she keeps on delivering dumb things on social media and dumb women are consuming whatever tit she does gives.
And now she blames schools for the things that was not taught in high school or even college?
Just because we spew anger on Anna for being pseudo-guru and gives a lot of misinformation, doesn't mean some of us are jealous. No one of us should be silenced by being called jealous.
Update on my post: If Anna refrains from delivering dumb things on socmed and start doing intense research on her subject matter since, her dumb followers keep on consuming what she gives without thinking
I would like to mention something, especially when one of us wants "efficiency" in taking Anna Bey down.
Let me ask some of you: are all of us familiar with Onision? While I am not normalizing inefficiency and tit, but in Onision's case, despite him being worse than Anna Bey, took looooooonger before Onision finally being demonitized on YouTube. Prior to that, his Patreon was removed. Can some of us be a bit patient?
Also, Anna can't be bashed if she keeps on delivering dumb things on social media and dumb women are consuming whatever tit she does gives.
And now she blames schools for the things that was not taught in high school or even college?
Just because we spew anger on Anna for being pseudo-guru and gives a lot of misinformation, doesn't mean some of us are jealous. No one of us should be silenced by being called jealous.
Update on my post: If Anna refrains from delivering dumb things on socmed and start doing intense research on her subject matter since, her dumb followers keep on consuming what she gives without thinking
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I agree. I think Anna, like every other influencer, believes that she has been what it takes to make money out of her channel and scam if she hangs in there long enough. Obviously she thinks 15 years is not too long. Either she doesn't realise that most influencers make their cash from sponsorships and collaborations, or she does and she is hoping that she will start feeling them in with the 1m following tag.
The trouble is that a lot of girls and women saw Anna as an AHA moment for themselves and they jumped on the femininity and levelling up bandwagon and created their own content. Many of those then realised when they had maxxed out their potential as well. It's is a saturated market, dear Anna. It will soon (if it isn't already) get old. The world has changed post Covid. We don't care about knocking on the doors of the elite. We care about the legacy we leave for ourselves and the things we will realise about our lives should our deathbed be approaching. We care about having a life half lived and a family feeling unloved. Yes, people now find themselves in dire financial situations after having lost their livelihoods. Anna, that's all the more reason why you should go back to your looking elegant with high street labels. It's all the more reason why you should stop peddling the "I've been part of the elite crowd". You haven't, we see that. If you have, it's rubbing the salt in. Clearly you haven't noticed that the general public were disgusted by the super rich being able to get around Covid international travel bans (Omg. Australia and it's celebrity actors and sportspeople. Don't even get me started!) or infamous videos like Madonna soaking in bath amongst rose petals and highend beauty products, saying "Covid is the great equaliser". Most people can see through your wealthy cosplay act now, and for those who can't well, it's their loss.
This is where Anna becomes particularly callous. In this world where a lot of third world countries now also have Covid to add to their list of obstacles in life, the people who will sign up for Anna's course are those who are so desperate, they will feel they need to take one last gamble. Win that social lottery and marry up, or lose everything. Whether Anna is a puppet to Carl or not is beside the point @AnnaBelt" (please implicate Carl of you can and we can get the full deck of scum). Anna is complicit and she (to put it bluntly) does not give a f*** who gets hurt. That is unforgivable and hence she will never be irrelevant. If she is down on her luck, it is SHE who must do the soul searching and re-evaluation of her life, not drag others down with her. She may have gotten therapy years ago, according to her, but life is long. History repeats, as does mental illness. Any number of things could be a trigger in life. Therapy should not be a one off if she needs it, which she does If I look at Anna speaking about her background, I would say that she is immensely triggered by the fact that she still, at 35, can talk the talk but not walk the walk. Women never really escape those "high school clique" scenarios. You will find them in the work place, in society and even in your own family and friendship group. It is a sign of maturity to rise above it. It is a life-changing affirmation to know that humans (as with animals) create hierarchies to avoid being the bottom of the pecking order. Anna is triggered by know she is still low on the pecking order, and is indeed even further down than she was a year ago, once again being homeless and drifting. The only way to navigate the hierarchy is to know where you got in and not partake in the pecking order above you. Not beneath you either, because people do eventually fight back.
I'm seeing lota of in-fighting on this last page. That's not what I've come to expect from Tattle ladies. That is the type of insidious behaviour I saw on Anna's Facebook group pages that drove me away from the pettiness of herself and her minions. I don't want to see this. It's not going to help us. It helps Anna divide and conquer. So either work silently behind the scenes as you wish and then share what you've found out when you're ready so we can collaborate, or take a break and calm down. I'm just saying because you are all better than that. Anna is running in circles trying to figure out how to save herself. Let her do that. Don't let her send us in circles as well.
Update: Anna can't be bashed if she refrains from delivering dumb things on social media and start doing intensive reserach since her followers are consuming whatever tit she does gives without thinking.
True and a key to that is finding a way to keep more negative comments on her feed faster than she can delete them
It looks like Anna is still in Geneva to me. She lives in Corsier and film in the lounge when she can.
She is too lazy and stupid to film and take pics far in advance etc.
About Carl, I posted about these questions in another thread but didn’t get any answers I think. Why would he invest in this? How does she know him? Escorting?
I think she started and developed this scam on her own. People are naive, gullible and need a leader who makes them dream,
It’s not hard to get them to follow you.
I also thought about calling the bank and tell them something like “I wanted to join your bank but I read things about a woman scamming people using your lounge etc.”
About the jealousy, I don’t think most women here are jealous.
At first, when I joined you, I thought everyone here lead a life Anna would envy. I thought everyone knew about tips and tricks in the “affluent world” etc. I was surprised to see that what the lovely @Bastine de Beaumanoir would explain, her tips, was new to some of you. And still, those who learn from Bastine’s advice are happy to know more etc. Because it’s not about jealousy but about feeling angry and sad Anna could make some damage in people’s life with her scam. It’s about wanting justice.
She is too lazy and stupid to film and take pics far in advance etc.
About Carl, I posted about these questions in another thread but didn’t get any answers I think. Why would he invest in this? How does she know him? Escorting?
I think she started and developed this scam on her own. People are naive, gullible and need a leader who makes them dream,
It’s not hard to get them to follow you.
I also thought about calling the bank and tell them something like “I wanted to join your bank but I read things about a woman scamming people using your lounge etc.”
About the jealousy, I don’t think most women here are jealous.
At first, when I joined you, I thought everyone here lead a life Anna would envy. I thought everyone knew about tips and tricks in the “affluent world” etc. I was surprised to see that what the lovely @Bastine de Beaumanoir would explain, her tips, was new to some of you. And still, those who learn from Bastine’s advice are happy to know more etc. Because it’s not about jealousy but about feeling angry and sad Anna could make some damage in people’s life with her scam. It’s about wanting justice.
Can we please add a TL;DR at the beginning of huge blocks of text worth half a webpage? This thread has been so hard to read, I'm disinterested if the conversation steers away from a focal point. Please, let's go back to the tried and true format.
But most of all, use common sense, the rats in the thread will eventually come to light when we refer to previous information in older threads.
But most of all, use common sense, the rats in the thread will eventually come to light when we refer to previous information in older threads.
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