My opinion does mean something actually, I am a citizen of this country.
Some/all of the people he was convicted of, he never actually met. I think stalking is a rather extreme term for this.
My opinion does mean something actually, I am a citizen of this country.Good job your opinion means nothing at all then and he's safely locked away where he can do no harm
Some/all of the people he was convicted of, he never actually met. I think stalking is a rather extreme term for this.He stalked people. Was found guilty in a court of law. Got a sentence. End of.
You are conflating free speech with harassment. Continously threatening people with unsolicitedUnless Alex explicitly said he had a bomb, I don't see how he can be held responsible for someone thinking he had one.
This sentence is particularly concerning as it comes days after people in Essex were threatened with arrest for holding up a Russian flag and a man was arrested for saying something to "Prince" Andrew as he walked past. I feel that there is an element of censoring free speech. Some of the evidence used was Alex's YouTube channel where he discussed the alleged 'victims'. This is not a direct method of contact and I struggle to see how it can be classed as any form of contact. It makes me wonder if they are trying to send a message out to anyone who chooses to speak their mind publicly. It is very concerning.
The Facebook messages and YouTube videos are different things. One of those is a direct contact, the other one is not.You are conflating free speech with harassment. Continously threatening people with unsolicited
messages and via YouTube videos over several years is not free speech.
A woman he took to Vegas and wouldn't sleep with him? Isn't he gay?This isn’t over yet I think he’s about to be exposed ever more than befoee
Still not free speech.The Facebook messages and YouTube videos are different things. One of those is a direct contact, the other one is not.
I disagree.Still not free speech.
You being a citizen of this country has no bearing on the jury who concluded that what he sent were threats. You not considering something to be a threat when the law determines that it was makes your opinion irrelevant. If you want to change the decision then perhaps train as a lawyer and convince Belfield to utilise your skills instead of defending himself again if he appeals the decision.My opinion does mean something actually, I am a citizen of this country.
The "they're taking away our freedom of speech!" brigade always seem to have trouble understanding what free speech actually means. It's odd... you'd think if you were desperate to keep something you'd actually know what that thing is.Still not free speech.
So why does this man need us to like and subscribe to his channel to be able to say what he says is "the truth"? Why couldn't he just spit it out in that video. It seems very clickbaity to me.This isn’t over yet I think he’s about to be exposed ever more than befoee
You keep on changing your argument which would suggest that you have no substance to support your position.So why does this man need us to like and subscribe to his channel to be able to say what he says is "the truth"? Why couldn't he just spit it out in that video. It seems very clickbaity to me.
Incorrect. This is a different matter, nothing to do with Alex's sentence or free speech.You keep on changing your argument which would suggest that you have no substance to support your position.
If you don't enjoy clickbaity then I'd stay away from Alex's channel:So why does this man need us to like and subscribe to his channel to be able to say what he says is "the truth"? Why couldn't he just spit it out in that video. It seems very clickbaity to me.
I wonder how he lost the weight and kept it off. He would refer to Alison Hammond as a big boned girl.A face only a mother could love
If only life was that easy, if you block someone they can simply make another account, another email address and of course send their “free speech” mob against anyone they please. I think if any of us were subjected to the abuse that his victims were we would be worried for our families safety at some point.Vine admits that neither Belfield or anyone else approached him. It was all in his head, Belfield is serving 5 years because Vine let him into his head. Ever hear of block Jeremy?
I am not a fan of Belfield but he definitely didn't deserve a 5 year sentence. He did not contact anyone directly or indirectly, Vine let him get into his head.Unless Alex explicitly said he had a bomb, I don't see how he can be held responsible for someone thinking he had one.
This sentence is particularly concerning as it comes days after people in Essex were threatened with arrest for holding up a Russian flag and a man was arrested for saying something to "Prince" Andrew as he walked past. I feel that there is an element of censoring free speech. Some of the evidence used was Alex's YouTube channel where he discussed the alleged 'victims'. This is not a direct method of contact and I struggle to see how it can be classed as any form of contact. It makes me wonder if they are trying to send a message out to anyone who chooses to speak their mind publicly. It is very concerning.
Just block, block, block or stay off social media if you don't like what you are hearing.If only life was that easy, if you block someone they can simply make another account, another email address and of course send their “free speech” mob against anyone they please. I think if any of us were subjected to the abuse that his victims were we would be worried for our families safety at some point.
May I also add for those defending “free speech” free speech does not mean hate speech is ok, also let me ask you this, if you believe in free speech for all, should ISIS be allowed to have a YouTube channel and a Twitter account? To freely express their views after all?
DId Vine not get an injunction or do a global block? Ask YT to take stuff down? Not really been following this and I have to admit that I think Jeremy Vine is a Grade A arsehole but frankly I'm surprised it actually got to Court when you see the stalking cases that don't... or is it because he is on the telly?If only life was that easy, if you block someone they can simply make another account, another email address and of course send their “free speech” mob against anyone they please. I think if any of us were subjected to the abuse that his victims were we would be worried for our families safety at some point.
May I also add for those defending “free speech” free speech does not mean hate speech is ok, also let me ask you this, if you believe in free speech for all, should ISIS be allowed to have a YouTube channel and a Twitter account? To freely express their views after all?
Free speech us tempered if you use your speech to incite violence, harrass or alarm. Fundamental Himan Rights are tempered by the laws of the land. You don't have unlimited freedoms. If you think the law contravenes your human rights, you can make a complaint to the Supreme Court under the Human Rights Act. So he is welcome to do that.Pretty appalling to see some people on here not understanding the definition of free speech and it's place in the human rights act....
Human Rights Act 1988, Article 10 Freedom of expression
1 Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers.
So if I put on my non existent YT channel or whatever that I think that Rylan is a giant hamster with a green aura or that Ozzy Osbourne is the rightful Pope - it may be nuts but it is my right and my freedom of expression as set out in law to say that. Just because you disagree with somebody does not make their opinion any less valid than yours... I can say my next door neighbour is an arse (which he is) but that is my right to say that.....
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