Amelia99

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I don’t know why race is being brought into this at all. It was one entitled narcissist being an arse. Nothing whatsoever to do with his colour or the colour of his victim.
 
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ahtisyourself

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Once Suri left she was considered an oppressive person, hence why Tom hasn’t seen her for the last 10 years. Poor kid, Katie seems like a good mum though.
I’m sure Katie is just as happy not to have Tom in her child’s life.

Zoe Kravitz’ post was insightful. “At the award show where we are apparently assaulting people on stage now”. There will be a lot of celebs left reeling from this and understandably pissed off at how lax security was.
 
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2xblended

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Google for a start. Case against Carrey was dismissed in a California Court. The family of his quite frankly scientology obsessed deceased ex tried to sue him but it was pure bullshit.

Part of this was also attempts to claim he gave her stds which was also a lie

It was nothing more than an attempt to get money out of him. The family were despicable
Yes. I recall watching a documentary on it as well, a while ago.
She wasn't mentally well and it is terrible that she chose suicide, but Carrey had nothing to do with that. She accused him of all sorts, and the family got rabid after she died, making outrageous claims that were all disproven.
There's a reason he carried her coffin and grieved so badly afterwards. He had cared about her and her family really attacked him coldly while he was still grieving. A huge trigger for his chronic depression, it seems.
 
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ahtisyourself

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I don’t think they should take back his Oscar, he won it fairly and it’s not really going to make much of a difference now either way. They should ban him from attending any Oscars for the next five years.
The academy should also accept partial responsibly for the shitshow that occurred and apologise to everyone for not intervening sooner and removing him from the venue.
They should also issue a massive apology to Chris Rock for leaving him stranded on stage alone and make a firm promise that it will never happen again.

I think doing that will disgrace and shame Will enough and that’s what is needed. It was pure ego that drove him to do what he did and so he needs to be kicked where it hurts and face the humiliation of being barred from the elitist ceremony he spent so many years kissing ass and schmoozing to try and make it to the top.
 
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Isa_Drennan

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The same one as you, actually. Depending on what you’d class as an attack I was (if you read what I wrote) referencing people acting like Will beat up Chris on that stage. A slap is an assault and of course not acceptable in any way but some people would or wouldn’t class it as an attack. That’s all I was referring too - not that Will didn’t do anything. 🙄
The definition of physical attack: An actual and intentional striking of another person against his or her will, or the intentional causing of bodily harm to an individual.
 
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CheshireLove

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Totally unacceptable behaviour from Will Smith. Just unbelievable that he did that.

Did Chris Rock know about the alopecia? I've heard that the Oscar's did not approve that joke about Jada - is that true?

Will Smith has not been in a good place for a while. In the past few years he's lost his perfect family and perfect marriage image he has worked so hard to create and control. He seems completely downtrodden and emasculated by the constant jokes of Jada's affair(?) and their marriage.

Will should have been on top of the world for the Oscar's, everyone knew he was going to win. For a man who has carefully controlled his image for so many years, I think it speaks volumes about what kind of headspace he is in that he smacked an awards host on the most memorable night of his career to date.

The above doesn't excuse him assaulting Chris. Will should be ashamed.
 
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LaBlonde

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The overall tone (from Jada) may be jovial and it's not such a bad thing, healing and I wanted to feel good for the first time in a long time, blah blah blah, but it's clear Will was very upset about it and it's all about how SHE feels.

You can even see it in his eyes, he looks upset, tired, not at all happy, even though he laughs along with her.

As one commenter on Youtube says, she has the cheek to call him petty.

Another sums it up as, Here I'll translate "I cheated, I enjoyed it, I felt good, here's why I wasn't wrong"
it’s very sad to watch tbh, he doesn’t look in any way ready to talk about it publicly (if he ever would have been ready) and surely, as his wife, she would have registered how devastated he was. imagine putting your husband on camera so you could tell him how good cheating on him made you feel.
 
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How do you know Will Smith is "usually really calm?".
You have absolutely no idea what he is really like, none of us do.

You said previously something along the lines of it being good he stuck up for his wife. Personally im glad my partner has never resorted to punching/hitting someone to "defend" my honour; in fact i would be absolutely mortified if anyone felt the need to be violent towards someone else in order to defend me.
The other thing, Jada talks so much about being a strong independent woman blah blah blah, im pretty sure she could have stuck up for herself given the narrative she likes to spin about herself. Not only that, if you have seen the film Rock is referring to- Demi Moore is a fucking queen in it and is actually all the things Jada likes to say she is!
The worst thing for me was the way Will Smith strutted back to his seat after he hit Rock. And then continued to shout at him, he knew exactly what he was doing.

100% this!!
I’ve got quite a ‘visible’ autoimmune illness that does get stares and comments etc. If my husband EVER behaved like that, I’d divorce his ass in a heartbeat. I’m more than capable of looking after myself and ANY man who behaves like that is a huge red flag 🚩
 
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Miss Begotten

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But why would Will Smith agree to stage something that would make him look like a violent, massively entitled dickhead? Not to mention delivering a huge blow to his popularity and reputation and totally overshadowing and devaluing his Oscar win. It doesn’t make sense.
He absolutely is a violent, massively entitled dickhead. You’d think he’d want to keep it quiet, not broadcast it live so that the few people who didn’t already know found out what a fucking tosser he is.
 
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Mardymermaid

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Im so dissapointed I really like both of them and its shown will smith in such a poor light. I hope Chris Rock is ok a joke about alopecia does not warrant such a response
 
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Lady_H

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My opinion should be on the unpopular opinions thread but I genuinely feel sorry for him.

Every single person that knows will or has worked with him throughout his career, interviewed him etc has only ever had lovely things to say about him. I’m not condoning violence but this was not the will Smith we all know and his friends and co workers all know. It’s unbearable to watch as he looks mentally unwell and unhinged. There is no-one who will be regretting it more than him today. The best night of his life and moment he has worked his whole career for is now forever ruined and tainted. For that reason alone I don’t think it’s a publicity stunt. Why would he risk his whole career and reputation. They were genuine emotions brought on by feeling like he had to protect his wife when he saw she was furious.

There is no excuse for slapping someone and I’m not defending him: I believe he should be punished or reprimanded in some way, but I believe this is a one off incident brought on by pure raw emotion and rage that is out of character for him. Even in his speech the way he was talking like some kind of prophet he doesn’t appear to be mentally well. I truly believe he feels embarrassed and backed into a corner at the publics view of him and his wife and family being so vocal and everyone knowing his wife fucks about. I believe it was like a pressure cooker and he acted and truly regrets it. I hope people can forgive him and he will seek help. I don’t think that one moment should define him and tarnish his impeccable and untarnished record up to this point in his life.

We are not talking about a serial offender here. More a man who snapped and will regret it for the rest of his life.
Yes, he certainly snapped and appears to be on extremely shaky ground emotionally and mentally. Its perfectly possible to be both perpetrator and victim.

That said, who knows what he’s like in real life. Public images of these celebrities are very carefully curated, at great cost, for mass approval and respect. I struggle to believe that a guy who grew up in violence, is a self-confessed perfectionist in all aspects of his life and has made it to the very top in Hollywood is someone about whom only “lovely” things could be said by every single person he has ever come into contact with.

Perhaps choosing to be play that game as hard as possible and cultivate a 100% “lovely” image at the same time is too much for one person’s psyche to take. The shadow side can be suppressed, but it can not be destroyed. Going along with public humiliation by your own wife in order to stay in that relationship and perhaps maintain your image as a happy family man doesn’t work on any level. It’s clear from that video that he wasn’t protecting his wife as some people are saying - he was seeking her approval. That is all kinds of fucked up.

Will Smith is not a victim in his own life. People don’t snap for no reason, and those reasons are often within our control. He made all the decisions leading up to the “snap” and after it. He bears full responsibility for everything that happened and should now take the consequences.
 
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thetis

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I don't care what the joke was, Will Smith's action was cringe worthy at best and downright concerning otherwise. I hope this was staged, but if not, I think Chris handled the situation well. It was uncomfortable to watch, I don't buy his overwhelming love and his need for protecting his wife. Jada could stand up for herself if the joke offended her. If I were in her place, I'd be mortified.
 
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