notanothergrammer

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A few things:
1. Every single person on the Internet saying 'MoCkInG sOmEoNe aBoUt ThIeR/ a HeAltH cOnDiTiOn iS WrOnG' And? How many comedians day in and out mock disabled children, cancer patients, fat people, race jokes you name it not one person has ever tried to cancel them, the fact Ricky Gervais, Jimmy Carr and Frankie Boyle are still going says it all

2. Jada has alopecia through years of wearing weaves, self inflicted choice.i can't feel sorry for an 80 a day cigarette smoker who gets lung cancer.

3. Self righteous Internet fucks jumping on the bad joke bandwagon, saying Chris Rock was out of line wouldn't be saying Jack shit if Jada and will laughed it off, only because will reacted the way he did people say Chris rock was outta line. Which shows these self righteous twats pretending they're suddenly alopecia advocates all of a sudden seem to think because the sufferer of a condition laughs about (if they did) then its OK and we can laugh, when just because one sufferer of a condition may laugh (if they did) then joking about it is OK. .its not

4. Will Smiths reaction was an egotistical one, he had something to prove to the world and to her. She cheated on him with a guy the same age as her son, will hitting Rock was his way of 'proving' his love and showing that his relationship is stronger than it is. If he laughs then everyone sees him as a prick that is also a pushover. Do something and he's been judged either way. He was damned if he did or he didn't

5. His reaction was over the top and unjustified, he's made a prick of himself over it and it could have waited, he's looking even more of a prick because he was laughing initially until he saw her face. He could have shown in his face he was angry, that spoke would have sufficed but no, he overreacted.

6. Its not about race as in black woman struggles as people are trying to make it. It becomes about race because Will Smith is being asked to hand back his ward by the Academy for breaking code of conduct, yet white celebrities who are proven serial predators (having committed offenses at these ceremony after parties) have been glorified by Hollywood and been allowed to keep their awards.

That's my own view on this.
 
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Minxmonx

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The amount of people trying to justify Will Smith's behaviour is mind-boggling.

Jada has alopecia, not cancer. The joke was not out of line, it was barely a joke at all.
Chris is a comedian- this is what they do!
Jada says she's a strong woman and nothing can tear her down, apart from one lame joke apparently.
Will was laughing at the joke and only reacted when he noticed Jada wanted a different response.
Will physically assaulted Chris. This was a quip, easily laughed off, not to be escalated. His response was not okay. Violence and aggression are not okay.
Will doubled down and screamed/ verbally assaulted Chris even when he knew his response was out of line- he saw everyone's horrified faces and still chose to double down.
Will then said he was doing god's work and was a vessel of love. That's an interesting way to show love. He didn't even have the decency to apologize to Chris when he was on stage.

He was immature and short tempered. It was a terrible choice. He should be ashamed.
I agree, there is no justification in what he did.
The whole thing smacks of hypocrisy too. As it was a big name like Will Smith it was like it was ok for him to do that and get away with it, when they are supposedly having a zero tolerance on any kind of bad behaviour now. And for him to then be allowed to make a speech and then to get a standing ovation!!!?? It’s just wrong on so many levels!
He had absolutely no remorse for what he did at the time too. He apologised to everyone except for Chris, then went on to Tweet and party afterwards like nothing had happened. Disgraceful behaviour 😡 He is only apologising to Chris now under extreme duress.
I think we all really felt sad for Chris, who had to deal with an assault and humiliation in front of millions, and nobody stepped in to help. That’s awful.
For those of you who think this behaviour is justified, all I can say is at best him shouting at Chris for standing up for his wife, at worse he is nothing more than a thug and a bully with a huge ego. No good will come out of this for him or Jada.

He deserved that 🤦‍♀️
Absolutely not!

Making a joke about something that's due to a medical condition is on a different level though. As much as her alopecia probably isn't life threatening, I'm sure losing her hair was very hard mentally.
This still doesn’t justify violence.
 
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LaBlonde

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I'm kind of feeling we're being played a bit, but I just can't believe he'd do it right before his big moment, and on the biggest world stage. If it is genuine, it's absolutely crazy and unfathomable. A true moment of madness.
if it was JUST the punch i could totally buy into it being staged but it’s the yelling and the cursing that makes it real for me. no one at the oscars would agree to have a man yell “keep my wife’s name out of your fucking mouth”. that, and chris rock’s reaction, was too genuine.
 
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I can’t say I’m a particularly big fan of Amy Schumer, but I’m baffled as to why people are going in on her for saying she was left traumatised after it. She was THERE. I was sickened just watching it on television, god knows how upsetting it must have been to see in person.
 
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The older and wiser you get the more you realise celebrities don’t live in the real world. The fact so many applauded and laughed at someone being physically assaulted on stage infront of the world pretty much, shows how out of touch they are. Who’s to say Rock knew about Jadas condition? When can comedians not be comedians? They have always been offensive.. always. Does it mean that every time a comedian makes a below the belt joke, someone can walk upto them and assault them? That’s not how you handle your sh*t.

it also shows how powerful the Smith family are and how many people are scared to call them out. Its a glimpse into how powerful people on Hollywood get away with things others wouldn’t. You can see how crazy sh*t like Weinstein goes down for years and years. They all want connections and jobs, at any cost. Not comparing the two but this was so visible and so openly accepted, what about the hidden stuff. Scary.

Also... Liam Payne WTF?!? I watched a interview with him from 9 months ago and he had a Wolverhampton accent, so what was that? :ROFLMAO:
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DarnIt

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Regardless, I love that Will stuck up for his wife publicly. I don't see enough of that.
I don’t think he stuck up for his wife, it looked like he moved to offset what that look meant for when they got home.

Now if I were a cynic, I might posit that as Rock has form for roasting the Smiths, it may be a stretch that the Smiths decided to stage both of their reactions to diss Rock & boost their cred.

But if Smith knew he was to receive the Oscar, why jeopardise the goodwill that came with that award?

But then who knows what goes on in a marriage?
Maybe Jada wanted to cut Will down to size on his big night?

He’ll always be the twat who wife threw him a dirty look for laughing, then jumped up in a hissy fit & went on stage to bitch slap a guy, who was smaller than him, doing the job he was paid to do. Oscar, what Oscar? Film, what film?
 
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Meowsy

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Ricky Gervais at GG made fun of Martin Scorcese for his short stature and you could see him mouthing « it’s true, it’s true » instead of getting up, walking on stage and delivering a kick in the balls for making what can be seen as an ableist joke. Forget Ricky, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler literally called Matt Damon « a garbage person », and he sat there and pretended to laugh instead of slapping them both. Why couldn’t Will sit there quietly and unleash whatever indignation he had in the interviews after the event was over?
 
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welp

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What gets me that he clearly found this joke funny himself and just went bananas because his wife was not amused by the joke (of course that she is not happy is understandable). These people have essentially a open marriage, it's almost like he tries to overcompensate.

That he was allowed to return to stage 10 minutes later to pick up the trophy and act like nothing happened was utterly bizzare. Granted, the reaction on twitter is also ridiculous in a sense: so many people claiming this is the worst moment in the history of the Oscars, it's not even close.
 
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Expelliarmus

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I just find the whole ‘devil’ and ‘we prayed’ rhetoric a really convenient way of separating the man from his actions. Meanwhile the man on the receiving end of the actions got zero, er, prayers.

Also, how is Chris Rock nearly 60?!
 
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JaynieDay

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He deserved that 🤦‍♀️
Nobody ever deserves violence. For all Chris knew she could have been preparing for a role. I didn’t know Jada had alopecia.
Perhaps he’s losing it because all his wife’s exploits are coming out and he knows it makes a sham of this “perfect marriage” bullshit they’ve been selling for years. She’s such a twat.
 
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Bubblegumblades

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Well done to whoever called it

If this results in a genuine change for him then that's great, but it probably just is an attempt to look like he feels remorse and is taking steps to make amends for the behaviour. I have held back from commenting as I don't think what he did was right in any way, shape or form, but I did, maybe do, believe he has some kind of long standing mental health issue. His behaviour since has made me somewhat cynical. It's possible to blow up, but most will feel some kind of remorse for it. He appears to feel none and is just trying to cover his arse. He will probably just come out and spout some jargon, issue a fake apology which maybe sounds less contrived than his recent attempts. Maybe he'll make a documentary about unresolved anger issues and cry in it.

As for Jada, well I have alopecia, and for the last 2 years have had giant bald patches form from stress. I also cut my hair off, one patch grew back, the other got bigger. I obviously don't speak for all with alopecia, but I am sensitive to the mental and emotional toll it can take. Chris' joke can be seen as insensitive if he knew, but he wasn't really making fun of her alopecia as such. She has a shaved head and a rather military looking green gown. It was a throw away joke about appearance, but I don't think it came off as derogatory in tone at all.
 
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MoreViolence

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I’m still in shock over this moment. Him laughing to then do The slap. Him screaming at him from the audience. The pin drop silence. Chris Rock could have dragged them. He didn’t. I think Will has lost it since last year. Can you Imagine your other half going on about a entanglement and you being the butt of the jokes on the internet over it. I would say he is a broken man with a crow of a wife. Really needs to step back and evaluate his life at this point. It honestly felt like he did it to prove a point. Rather than over the joke in question.
 
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HeyYo123

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In West Philadelphia born 'n raised
Chris Rock decided to diss my wife on one of those days
I was chillin' out, maxin' out, relaxin' all cool
'Til Chris Rock had me actin' the fool
This one little guy, he was up to no good
Started making jokes I didn't think he should
I gave him one little slap and he got scared
Yelled," get my wife's name out ya mouth", while she had her legs in the air
I got up to the stage about seven or eight, said "thanks, see ya later "
And looked out at the crowd, and my wife with no hair
And sit at my throne as the prince of bel air.
 
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Amelia99

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I think he should be stripped of the Oscar as a clear signal that there is no acceptance of that sort of behaviour from anyone regardless of their fame or stardom. But the Academy won’t have the balls to do it. As others have said, I really don’t think this is a race thing. I think it’s an ”I’m a huge, wealthy, star and I can do what I like” thing. The Academy need to show that regardless of whether you’re a star or the guy who sweeps up after the party the same rules apply. You do not physically assault someone and get away with it.
 
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JaynieDay

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Making a joke about something that's due to a medical condition is on a different level though. As much as her alopecia probably isn't life threatening, I'm sure losing her hair was very hard mentally.
How was he supposed to know? She’s an actress it could have been for a role. Also Will was initially laughing at the joke, I think that’s what makes it so unhinged. Like you were laughing first, then you go slap the fucker. Nope he just came across as an entitle, nasty, arrogant prick. So I guess we know the other side of Will now. Fair play he kept that shit hidden for years.

I’m done with Smith after this, I was thinking before the slap how they gave me the creeps on the red carpet. I’m still going to stay on the thread, 😆 I just won’t watch anything to do with him. It’s a shame as I love MIB and Independence Day. But I can’t look at him after last night. What an absolute prick. Can’t believe how disappointed I am in him. I always considered him one of the good guys,guess I was wrong.
 
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