Yep I used to put my daughter in her pram and wheel her into the bathroom with me, sheâs full of sh*t she just needs to get herself into a routine and stop bitching and moaning. Alfie althou he seems like a doofus doesnât seem like a total jerk Iâm sure he would watch pay if she said she needs to have a shower and fix herself up. Maybe sheâs a micro manager of whatever Alfieâs doing with pay so she can never just relax. She seems like a bossy cow so it wouldnât surprise me.I don't have a baby, so correct me if I'm wrong, but even if we pretend Horsey doesn't exist, at Pays age, and with that great big bathroom, Zoe can plonk the bairn in a bouncer or seat or blanket on the floor and just keep an eye on her/talk to her whilst she showers right?
I liked how he was showing pay how to make a coffee I thought it was sweet just including her in what he does every day but Zoobs seemed to make fun of him in my opinion. I think sheâs jealous that Alfie is a more relaxed parent while she is strugglingIt was a strange video. It definitely wasnât the giggly, high pitched almost childlike Zoe pre Otillie. I thought that she was on the verge of tears at one point.
I donât think that she really thought through what motherhood entails. Itâs not just dressing them up like dolls and carrying on with life. I donât understand why she needs to wear make up especially if she isnât leaving the house.
It seems like Alfie is doing a lot of the practical parenting. I could understand her being overwhelmed if Alfie had two weeks paternity leave and went back to work, but he is there.
Making actual content???????????? NEVER!Silly me I thought once she had Ottie we get clips of her being a mum like getting Ottie dressed or feeding her etc but no all we get is her TALKING about being a mum but we never actually see her BEING one.
I used to think this... I'm not sure if I believe in anything anymoreI think they both would thrive more if they werent together, they could stop pretending and find true happiness with other people
Hard AgreeI think there might be a nanny. Neither of them have shown the day to day life of having a baby. All we have had is them saying they donât have time to brush their teeth or shower and a photo where Ottie woke them up through the night because she was teething. Nothing else has been relatable and their content has been baby clothes/things or holding Pay.
I agree. I think out of the two of them Alfie would probably âthriveâ (or claim he is), but Zoe is too used to everyone coming to her she wouldnât put the effort in to find someone new and get to know them. I donât think it would push her out of her shell at all because sheâs waited too long. She has a good chance to break it off and thrive a few years ago but sheâs fucked herself over.I used to think this... I'm not sure if I believe in anything anymore
They are comfortable
WHat if they just found someone else to let them be comfortable and put in no effort
Enid Blyton version of parenting is such a true statement. Zoe and alfie donât show any reality or the day in day out of parenting. They just show posed pictures or cute outfits and thatâs it. And Zoeâs desperate attempts to seem relatable seem anything but, especially considering her situation. I think they have a lot of help - whether thatâs a nanny or not I donât know, but either way I donât think Zoe and alfie are free styling it themselves.So she definitely hasn't been staying with them? Not like they don't have room. Not sure if she has a proper job to be at. Was just making a presumption as seen her in posts and stories and mentioned quite a bit since the birth. Don't think they would make it common knowledge but I don't believe the pair of them do everything with Ottie day in day out. At least with Carys (much as she annoys me) she shows the struggles and reality of going out with a baby, the cut short shopping trips, the impromptu feeding etc. Bit more relatable. We're only seeing the Enid Blyton version of parenting from Zoe. Almost like just having another Nala but you can dress it cute and it just smiles and coos all day.
She just doesn't care about the Magpie books and is sour that the publishing house clearly didn't renew their book deal. It was promised as a multi-book series... it just got two. They clearly didn't sell well at all (what a shock, considering the poor writing and next to no campaigning Zoe did). So she doesn't care about them because likely there's no more money to be had. They probably paid her a nice, hefty advance but the books haven't earned back against that advance. And until they earn back, she'll make nothing more... and they will never earn back because only hard core minions bought them.duck me. Then she goes on to gush about the M&S chocolate packaging saying she loves design. Erm, if you loved design, surely the new cover of your book would be of more interest. Also stop eating Easter chocolates, itâs bleeping February. Not even Shrove Tuesday has passed yet.
And thatâs another thing I just do not understand. She has/had a bookclub. How easy would it have been to promote it. I donât follow any but Iâm sure there are reading/fiction influencers and book clubs it would be the easiest thing to promote. Throw in a book signing or some competitions and job done. It would have been hardly any effort for maximum results, results that other publishers and authors would kill for. I donât know why she did the books if she wasnât bothered by them. Just more wasted opportunities.She just doesn't care about the Magpie books and is sour that the publishing house clearly didn't renew their book deal. It was promised as a multi-book series... it just got two. They clearly didn't sell well at all (what a shock, considering the poor writing and next to no campaigning Zoe did). So she doesn't care about them because likely there's no more money to be had. They probably paid her a nice, hefty advance but the books haven't earned back against that advance. And until they earn back, she'll make nothing more... and they will never earn back because only hard core minions bought them.
I was just about to post that!! Thank you!!I know itâs a trend at the minute but her ears look bloody ridiculous with that many earrings in/with cuffs on. Her earlobes are looking droopy!
When the second book came out was lockdown rules still in place? if so that might have made it hard to do a book signing etc esp when pregnant. Do we think she will have another baby? I do because she will want a boy so she's got the 'perfect' family.And thatâs another thing I just do not understand. She has/had a bookclub. How easy would it have been to promote it. I donât follow any but Iâm sure there are reading/fiction influencers and book clubs it would be the easiest thing to promote. Throw in a book signing or some competitions and job done. It would have been hardly any effort for maximum results, results that other publishers and authors would kill for. I donât know why she did the books if she wasnât bothered by them. Just more wasted opportunities.
I donât know anything about publishing, if the book doesnât perform, donât you have to pay the advance back?
Yeah her earlobes look like my husbandâs great auntâs which were practically touching her shoulders after abusing them with 80 years of Pat Butcher style clip ons. I have a few ear piercings, Iâve not changed any of them in months and some, years as it takes ages. She has plenty of time to faff around with that though.I was just about to post that!! Thank you!!
Also, why was she explaining chocolate to us and reading off the wrapper? How daft!
Complains that she has no time to herself but ends the video saying she's going to take a long bath and have a relaxing evening? There's a night nanny/nurse for sure!
I don't think any of us are saying we wouldn't have help but the fact is if they are they should be honest about it.Yeah her earlobes look like my husbandâs great auntâs which were practically touching her shoulders after abusing them with 80 years of Pat Butcher style clip ons. I have a few ear piercings, Iâve not changed any of them in months and some, years as it takes ages. She has plenty of time to faff around with that though.
However, minion opinion incoming, Iâd definitely have a night nanny if I could afford it. My baby screams herself into hysteria unless sheâs feeding or being held (and that doesnât even always work) and it would be bliss to enjoy the days. Wouldnât work if youâre breastfeeding though and she was before so maybe she doesnât have one? Unless the night nanny wakes you up for a feed then takes the baby away to wind? You can see Iâve given this a lot of thought!
She, as in Zoe, doesn't have a book club. Zoella has a book club, and she's separated herself from Zoella, essentially decimating Zoella's reach. Zoella's book club did have the Magpie books as part of their book club, but again, only minions follow what Zoella says.And thatâs another thing I just do not understand. She has/had a bookclub. How easy would it have been to promote it. I donât follow any but Iâm sure there are reading/fiction influencers and book clubs it would be the easiest thing to promote. Throw in a book signing or some competitions and job done. It would have been hardly any effort for maximum results, results that other publishers and authors would kill for. I donât know why she did the books if she wasnât bothered by them. Just more wasted opportunities.
I donât know anything about publishing, if the book doesnât perform, donât you have to pay the advance back?