Where do you stand on knife crime in London for example? Is it accurate to say that the majority of both victims and perpetrators seem to allegedly be people of colour or is that an incorrect statistic? https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/commission-on-knife-crime-in-black-communityThe thing is on educating, history is not taught accurately in school, I’m sure many of you believe Christopher Columbus was a great man who discovered America, I’m sure many of you believe Winston Churchill was a great man too. I have no issue with educating people on the struggles of black people, the history, or why colourism is still a thing, on how racism does still exist as does white privilege, but it’s often met by being disregarded, that it doesn’t happen anymore, that white privilege isn’t real & ‘all lives matter’ and it’s exhausting.
I'm from the states and came across this thread and I'm loving it.Where do you stand on knife crime in London for example? Is it accurate to say that the majority of both victims and perpetrators seem to allegedly be people of colour or is that an incorrect statistic? https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/commission-on-knife-crime-in-black-community
If all lives matter isn't an appropriate response, then do you think someone should question why the statistics seem to allegedly suggest that even black people don't think black lives matter?
By the way, what is 'colourism'?
I love people with animal names, especially Wolf Blitzer from CNN, not keen on Dog the Bounty Hunter, it sounds fake.I love dogs with human names. I know a Labrador called Susan and a German Shepherd called Craig
I am childless, and I agree YOUR life changes. It's when I have to change my life to accommodate you that I get pissed. Your sprog your problems.I think that childless people just can’t understand nor appreciate how much your life changes once you have a child. It’s not even intentional, your priorities just shift and you naturally start to put the needs and wants of your child first. A child completely and totally changes every aspect of your life forever, there’s no going back, there’s a fundamental shift and you go forward from that point but there’s a definitive life pre children and then post children.
I highly doubt on a daily basis you are getting yourself in knots over every issue i.e. LGBTQ, child abuse, animal welfare, homelessness, veterans etc etc. The list of causes is endless. You cannot actively care about all of them because we all have different issues that affect us mentally dependent on the lives we have lived. As I've already said, does that mean I want or agree with ethnic minorities being treated poorly? Of course not, but on a daily basis it isn't something that I care about no because it doesn't affect me and I can be honest about that, I am too busy thinking about the issues that do. And again, by care it doesn't mean I agree with poor treatment or that if I actually witnessed it I would go "ah fuck em", it means in my daily life I don't give the issue much thought. That's just being honest and again, as much as people don't like to admit it I strongly believe most white people will be the same. In the same way most heterosexual people don't spend time being interested in LGBTQ issues or people who don't like animals caring about their welfare.First and foremost it’s ridiculous that BLM is even a movement. It shouldn’t be a movement. It shouldn’t even be a thing but it is. You don’t have to be actively campaigning to support it. You said you don’t treat non white people any different but you also said its non white peoples problem, therefor you are treating people of colour differently because you think ‘meh that’s their problem, me and my white privilege are not effected’ that is the height of ignorance and disgusting.
Dave is a fab name for a cat, I findI kind of like animals with "human" names. We had pigs called Fred and Mary when we were children.
you wash your filthy mouth out! And you are wrong about the clubman, the roadster ok yes fugly but not the clubmanMini's aren't cool. It seems like every fourth person has one and the Mini Clubman just looks ridiculous
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That’s a lot of words to say “I’m alright Jack”.I highly doubt on a daily basis you are getting yourself in knots over every issue i.e. LGBTQ, child abuse, animal welfare, homelessness, veterans etc etc. The list of causes is endless. You cannot actively care about all of them because we all have different issues that affect us mentally dependent on the lives we have lived. As I've already said, does that mean I want or agree with ethnic minorities being treated poorly? Of course not, but on a daily basis it isn't something that I care about no because it doesn't affect me and I can be honest about that, I am too busy thinking about the issues that do. And again, by care it doesn't mean I agree with poor treatment or that if I actually witnessed it I would go "ah fuck em", it means in my daily life I don't give the issue much thought. That's just being honest and again, as much as people don't like to admit it I strongly believe most white people will be the same. In the same way most heterosexual people don't spend time being interested in LGBTQ issues or people who don't like animals caring about their welfare.
You can find it disgusting, that's fine, it's the unpopular opinions thread I knew it wouldn't be liked but I'm not going to be the person who silently agrees and scrolls by because they are too scared to be cancelled. Until you are on the front line campaigning over every single issue, practicing performative activism and going "wow yeah that's really terrible" then going back to your life and doing nothing (which is what most people do), is the exact same privilege you are accusing me of. People seem to need a verbal acknowledgement of how wronged they are even if it changes nothing when at the end of the day, me saying I don't condone but equally don't *actively* care about a movement achieves the same thing as someone telling you how justified you are, pretending they give a shit then equally doing absolutely nothing. It's just smoke and mirrors to protect themselves from criticism.
UO - Brutal honesty is desperately needed in society because if people do so, it can be a foundation of more meaningful conversations and change. Getting angry and just calling everyone a racist doesn't help anything. In the same way angry vegans just piss people off further. Pretending to be PC or saying what you think people need to hear just to save face doesn't actually achieve anything, it just creates a facade. We are so caught up in everyone needing to "be kind" that we force fake emotions that actually breed more hatred and angst. Just look at the whole trans thing, for some reason it's OK for everyone to be honest that they think that's a shit show, but admitting you don't actively care about the BLM movement isn't accepted? Both issues cause people prejudice or abuse but we are allowed to not be interested in one. That is how life works though, you cannot care about everything and it isn't healthy to.
Again that doesn't mean you agree with it, wouldn't do anything if you saw it happening, or actively engage in it yourself (which is what really counts, if we all do our bit these things wouldn't be a problem and doing your bit should be enough, you can't be expected to do it all and if you are, I equally expect you to start getting involved in all those issues I mentioned before).
Anyway, that's my last mic drop on the topic before we get in thread monopolisation territory. I accept it's going to piss people off, it is the UO thread afterall!
Does anyone have a problem with high income households just for having a high income? I expect its more how they act than what they earn or have.People who have a problem with high income households are just bitter that they failed in life …
I highly doubt on a daily basis you are getting yourself in knots over every issue i.e. LGBTQ, child abuse, animal welfare, homelessness, veterans etc etc. The list of causes is endless. You cannot actively care about all of them because we all have different issues that affect us mentally dependent on the lives we have lived. As I've already said, does that mean I want or agree with ethnic minorities being treated poorly? Of course not, but on a daily basis it isn't something that I care about no because it doesn't affect me and I can be honest about that, I am too busy thinking about the issues that do. And again, by care it doesn't mean I agree with poor treatment or that if I actually witnessed it I would go "ah fuck em", it means in my daily life I don't give the issue much thought. That's just being honest and again, as much as people don't like to admit it I strongly believe most white people will be the same. In the same way most heterosexual people don't spend time being interested in LGBTQ issues or people who don't like animals caring about their welfare.
You can find it disgusting, that's fine, it's the unpopular opinions thread I knew it wouldn't be liked but I'm not going to be the person who silently agrees and scrolls by because they are too scared to be cancelled. Until you are on the front line campaigning over every single issue, practicing performative activism and going "wow yeah that's really terrible" then going back to your life and doing nothing (which is what most people do), is the exact same privilege you are accusing me of. People seem to need a verbal acknowledgement of how wronged they are even if it changes nothing when at the end of the day, me saying I don't condone but equally don't *actively* care about a movement achieves the same thing as someone telling you how justified you are, pretending they give a shit then equally doing absolutely nothing. It's just smoke and mirrors to protect themselves from criticism.
UO - Brutal honesty is desperately needed in society because if people do so, it can be a foundation of more meaningful conversations and change. Getting angry and just calling everyone a racist doesn't help anything. In the same way angry vegans just piss people off further. Pretending to be PC or saying what you think people need to hear just to save face doesn't actually achieve anything, it just creates a facade. We are so caught up in everyone needing to "be kind" that we force fake emotions that actually breed more hatred and angst. Just look at the whole trans thing, for some reason it's OK for everyone to be honest that they think that's a shit show, but admitting you don't actively care about the BLM movement isn't accepted? Both issues cause people prejudice or abuse but we are allowed to not be interested in one. That is how life works though, you cannot care about everything and it isn't healthy to.
Again that doesn't mean you agree with it, wouldn't do anything if you saw it happening, or actively engage in it yourself (which is what really counts, if we all do our bit these things wouldn't be a problem and doing your bit should be enough, you can't be expected to do it all and if you are, I equally expect you to start getting involved in all those issues I mentioned before).
Anyway, that's my last mic drop on the topic before we get in thread monopolisation territory. I accept it's going to piss people off, it is the UO thread afterall!
It’s not an incorrect statistic but you are aware that black people are more likely to be living in poverty aren’t you? As a result they don’t always have access to the things white people do to keep them off the streets such as clubs after school but I’m not really sure why this statistic is relevant. You clearly don’t understand the BLM movement.Where do you stand on knife crime in London for example? Is it accurate to say that the majority of both victims and perpetrators seem to allegedly be people of colour or is that an incorrect statistic? https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/commission-on-knife-crime-in-black-community
If all lives matter isn't an appropriate response, then do you think someone should question why the statistics seem to allegedly suggest that even black people don't think black lives matter?
By the way, what is 'colourism'?
I highly doubt on a daily basis you are getting yourself in knots over every issue i.e. LGBTQ, child abuse, animal welfare, homelessness, veterans etc etc. The list of causes is endless. You cannot actively care about all of them because we all have different issues that affect us mentally dependent on the lives we have lived. As I've already said, does that mean I want or agree with ethnic minorities being treated poorly? Of course not, but on a daily basis it isn't something that I care about no because it doesn't affect me and I can be honest about that, I am too busy thinking about the issues that do. And again, by care it doesn't mean I agree with poor treatment or that if I actually witnessed it I would go "ah fuck em", it means in my daily life I don't give the issue much thought. That's just being honest and again, as much as people don't like to admit it I strongly believe most white people will be the same. In the same way most heterosexual people don't spend time being interested in LGBTQ issues or people who don't like animals caring about their welfare.
You can find it disgusting, that's fine, it's the unpopular opinions thread I knew it wouldn't be liked but I'm not going to be the person who silently agrees and scrolls by because they are too scared to be cancelled. Until you are on the front line campaigning over every single issue, practicing performative activism and going "wow yeah that's really terrible" then going back to your life and doing nothing (which is what most people do), is the exact same privilege you are accusing me of. People seem to need a verbal acknowledgement of how wronged they are even if it changes nothing when at the end of the day, me saying I don't condone but equally don't *actively* care about a movement achieves the same thing as someone telling you how justified you are, pretending they give a shit then equally doing absolutely nothing. It's just smoke and mirrors to protect themselves from criticism.
UO - Brutal honesty is desperately needed in society because if people do so, it can be a foundation of more meaningful conversations and change. Getting angry and just calling everyone a racist doesn't help anything. In the same way angry vegans just piss people off further. Pretending to be PC or saying what you think people need to hear just to save face doesn't actually achieve anything, it just creates a facade. We are so caught up in everyone needing to "be kind" that we force fake emotions that actually breed more hatred and angst. Just look at the whole trans thing, for some reason it's OK for everyone to be honest that they think that's a shit show, but admitting you don't actively care about the BLM movement isn't accepted? Both issues cause people prejudice or abuse but we are allowed to not be interested in one. That is how life works though, you cannot care about everything and it isn't healthy to.
Again that doesn't mean you agree with it, wouldn't do anything if you saw it happening, or actively engage in it yourself (which is what really counts, if we all do our bit these things wouldn't be a problem and doing your bit should be enough, you can't be expected to do it all and if you are, I equally expect you to start getting involved in all those issues I mentioned before).
Anyway, that's my last mic drop on the topic before we get in thread monopolisation territory. I accept it's going to piss people off, it is the UO thread afterall!
It’s fine to not campaign for every single issue, I don’t go out campaigning for climate change, animal rights etc but I do everything I can to educate myself / those around me on what we can do to improve the world. You not caring because you’re not black is like me saying ‘I don’t care that somebody kicked a dog cos I’m not a dog and I don’t like dogs’ imagine the outrage? imagine if I just walked past somebody kicking a dog. What kind of monster would that make me? But it’s fine for you a white person to ignore black issues and you don’t see how wrong you are? That’s the problem with this country. We treat animals better then we do black people.I highly doubt on a daily basis you are getting yourself in knots over every issue i.e. LGBTQ, child abuse, animal welfare, homelessness, veterans etc etc. The list of causes is endless. You cannot actively care about all of them because we all have different issues that affect us mentally dependent on the lives we have lived. As I've already said, does that mean I want or agree with ethnic minorities being treated poorly? Of course not, but on a daily basis it isn't something that I care about no because it doesn't affect me and I can be honest about that, I am too busy thinking about the issues that do. And again, by care it doesn't mean I agree with poor treatment or that if I actually witnessed it I would go "ah fuck em", it means in my daily life I don't give the issue much thought. That's just being honest and again, as much as people don't like to admit it I strongly believe most white people will be the same. In the same way most heterosexual people don't spend time being interested in LGBTQ issues or people who don't like animals caring about their welfare.
You can find it disgusting, that's fine, it's the unpopular opinions thread I knew it wouldn't be liked but I'm not going to be the person who silently agrees and scrolls by because they are too scared to be cancelled. Until you are on the front line campaigning over every single issue, practicing performative activism and going "wow yeah that's really terrible" then going back to your life and doing nothing (which is what most people do), is the exact same privilege you are accusing me of. People seem to need a verbal acknowledgement of how wronged they are even if it changes nothing when at the end of the day, me saying I don't condone but equally don't *actively* care about a movement achieves the same thing as someone telling you how justified you are, pretending they give a shit then equally doing absolutely nothing. It's just smoke and mirrors to protect themselves from criticism.
UO - Brutal honesty is desperately needed in society because if people do so, it can be a foundation of more meaningful conversations and change. Getting angry and just calling everyone a racist doesn't help anything. In the same way angry vegans just piss people off further. Pretending to be PC or saying what you think people need to hear just to save face doesn't actually achieve anything, it just creates a facade. We are so caught up in everyone needing to "be kind" that we force fake emotions that actually breed more hatred and angst. Just look at the whole trans thing, for some reason it's OK for everyone to be honest that they think that's a shit show, but admitting you don't actively care about the BLM movement isn't accepted? Both issues cause people prejudice or abuse but we are allowed to not be interested in one. That is how life works though, you cannot care about everything and it isn't healthy to.
Again that doesn't mean you agree with it, wouldn't do anything if you saw it happening, or actively engage in it yourself (which is what really counts, if we all do our bit these things wouldn't be a problem and doing your bit should be enough, you can't be expected to do it all and if you are, I equally expect you to start getting involved in all those issues I mentioned before).
Anyway, that's my last mic drop on the topic before we get in thread monopolisation territory. I accept it's going to piss people off, it is the UO thread afterall!
TLDR: you can only actively care about so many of the multitude of issues in the world. Also, movements such as Black Lives Matter and trans-activism alienate people by aggressively demanding others submit to their world view. That's how I read that post anyway.Is there a 'TLDR' recap for this?
off topic but I only found out that TLDR means too long didn’t read the other dayIs there a 'TLDR' recap for this?
When we’re given with the same opportunities as the white person, not treated less for having darker skin and not killed by the police for being black - when it’s obvious that black lives do matter. Then I’m sure there will be satisfaction.I'm from the states and came across this thread and I'm loving it.
The big cities have a huge problem with black on black crime, it's a regular thing in Chicago for 70 people to be shot in one weekend and it's 99.9% black on black crime.
My question is, when will BLM be satisfied? Every major city has been burned and looted and it's still not enough. The cops stand by and let it happen. I'm sorry I'm missing the racism in that.
How do you feel about people/celebrities taking the knee and changing their Instagram to a black square, do you think it’s a good way to promote the cause, would you be offended if someone didn’t do they but tried to help BLM in a different way?When we’re given with the same opportunities as the white person, not treated less for having darker skin and not killed by the police for being black - when it’s obvious that black lives do matter. Then I’m sure there will be satisfaction.
exactly this, i hate the “when will it end, when will they be satisfied” argument because blm isn’t really asking for much, just to be treated equally and the same as others. people who try and act like they’re protesting for the impossible just don’t understand the purpose imo.When we’re given with the same opportunities as the white person, not treated less for having darker skin and not killed by the police for being black - when it’s obvious that black lives do matter. Then I’m sure there will be satisfaction.
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