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I am totally confused here. What has 2014 got to do with Zaddy. Wasn't he still doing SOTP series. I thought he became President 2018/2019.
Do they get more than 2 terms in office in Europe. I know USA is only 2.
Zelenskyy is a continuation of what happened in 2014. He is an actor and managed to convince people he would be different, but he lied. Below is the first post-Maidan coup President getting intimate with Joe Biden (Poroshenko.)
Ukraine: Two British nationals detained by Russian forces charged with 'mercenary activities'
Dylan Healy, 22, and Andrew Hill, 35, were both captured by Russian forces in April before being charged.
news.sky.com
Unpopular but:
I'm honestly of the opinion that people with British passports who didn't leave as soon as everything went down are a bit stupid. You really can't depend on any country following international law on this sort of stuff, assuming you're even covered by international law
Hang on a sec. They weren't just your everyday British citizens who happened to be working and living in Ukraine, they were mercenaries! I don't support the death penalty and never have, but these two men should have been aware of what could happen to them before they joined up. Please also be aware that it is not Russia who is threatening them with capital punishment, it is the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR.)Ukraine: Two British nationals detained by Russian forces charged with 'mercenary activities'
Dylan Healy, 22, and Andrew Hill, 35, were both captured by Russian forces in April before being charged.
Unpopular but:
I'm honestly of the opinion that people with British passports who didn't leave as soon as everything went down are a bit stupid. You really can't depend on any country following international law on this sort of stuff, assuming you're even covered by international law
At this point you are iust trolling this thread with your pro Russian conspiracies.
Please go post on the Conspiracy Theories thread or start your own “I love Putin” thread
I’m always open to learn and change my opinions but at this point you are deliberately derailing the thread with your nonsense
Perhaps you'd like to tell me where I've gone wrong then, and tell us all what really happened.At this point you are iust trolling this thread with your pro Russian conspiracies.
Please go post on the Conspiracy Theories thread or start your own “I love Putin” thread
I’m always open to learn and change my opinions but at this point you are deliberately derailing the thread with your nonsense
I don't totally agree but do see your point. If the reports aren't leaving out too many of the critical details then their humanitarian assistance included getting people and driving them to safety, perhaps a little beyond handing out soup and blankets so even if they weren't armed, the case gets difficult to argue especially as the 'rule of law' where they are being held tends to be that of "suspicion equals guilt" .Ukraine: Two British nationals detained by Russian forces charged with 'mercenary activities'
Dylan Healy, 22, and Andrew Hill, 35, were both captured by Russian forces in April before being charged.
Unpopular but:
I'm honestly of the opinion that people with British passports who didn't leave as soon as everything went down are a bit stupid. You really can't depend on any country following international law on this sort of stuff, assuming you're even covered by international law
Though with any luck there's more prisoner exchanges ahead so I won't write them off just yet.
Wonder how popular that would be
I imagine it would end up in the “unanswered threads” section It's a difficult situation but suppose that's why it's better sticking to recognised charities/NGOs and following their guidance on how involved you can be. From what I've seen a lot of the work has been focused on the 'less' affected areas but it's probably for good reason
I've quickly looked up the Presidium Network and The Guardian has this as one of their corrections/clarifications:
It sounds like the two, or maybe just Urey, are being used for Russian propaganda too:
It goes on to say how he was taking photos of a bridge and how it wasn't bombed by Russians so it's proof that UK media is lying
Warrington aid worker captured in Ukraine interviewed on Russian TV in handcuffs
FOOTAGE has emerged on Russian state TV showing an interview with Warrington aid worker Paul Urey who went missing in Ukraine.
On that particular point, I'm sure there's been at least one or two other bridges (or possibly even the one he was looking at) that the Ukrainians stated quite early on that they themselves had blown up to prevent/delay Russian advance.
As for any statement from someone in hostile captivity, I will stick with a noncommital remark about taking things at face value for the moment though I doubt I'm alone in that.
The Red Banner of Victory was erected in the central park of Lisichansk “to commemorate the liberation of the city from Ukrainian nazis”
https://news.sky.com/story/germans-...shortage-amid-russias-war-in-ukraine-12644417Germans warned to prepare for possible gas shortage amid Russia's war in Ukraine
Status of Lysychansk seems to be a matter of unclarity at the moment.
news.sky.com
Ukraine not sounding massively optimistic about holding Lysychansk though there was an interesting remark about it not being such a strategic advantage from the invading forces perspective.
Lysychansk falls as Ukraine's military says its troops were forced to withdraw from city
The confirmation from Ukraine comes after Russian defence minister Sergei Shoigu told President Vladimir Putin that the city has been 'liberated'.
news.sky.com
Ukraine not sounding massively optimistic about holding Lysychansk though there was an interesting remark about it not being such a strategic advantage from the invading forces perspective.
Joe Biden insisted that Zelenskyy's ukrops would NEVER aim US medium/long range missiles into Russia. Well..
Do you still think they are the "good guys?"
Do you still think they are the "good guys?"
Ukraine latest updates: Ukrainian forces withdraw from Lysychansk
Ukraine news from July 3: Military says decision to retreat made to ‘preserve’ the lives of its troops.
assuming you’re talking about this it sounds like they were targeting an airport used as a Russian base and some of the missiles fell on a residential area (possibly, doesn’t appear to be confirmed by anyone). Collateral damage is normal in a war zone
I know people have been saying that every Russian missile has been targeted at civilian targets but there’s a good chance that some of those have been collateral damage too
I really don’t know why I keep entertaining your posts
it’s just providing actual sources tends to be usefulGeorge Galloway FFS, When you can find a legitimate source, come back
Three dead as dozens of buildings hit by blasts in Russian city near Ukraine border
Russian lawmaker blames Ukraine for attack, calling for a military response
This article is a bit more in depth. Doesn’t seem to mention the allegedly targeted Russian base nearby though
I don't doubt this, the question of course is the relative proportions and I think it is not unreasonable to suggest that the Russian-caused 'collateral damage' has been far beyond even the most generous margin of error that might be applied to accuracy, even of older armaments.
(edit, th is being on top of their deliberate targeting of civilian and residential targets, hospitals, crowded railway stations)
Still waiting for confirmation of what happened In Belgorod and of course if it was non military targets deliberately hit then I would not want to be excusing that.
There seems to be some disagreement between Russian and Ukrainian defence ministries as to who currently controls Lysychansk so I'm adding pinches of salt to any claims and counter-claims on that one.
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