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I call myself British, always have done. Getting an Irish Passport is pragmatism on my part.
Yikes good thing you didn't say to me irl 😂 Rory McIlory that you?
Not gonna get into it you do you. Hope you get the passport 👍

That’s it


Ah your right about the agreements. I know that it will be like travelling outside of Europe - you may need to show you aren’t staying for longer than 90 days, need 6 months on your passport etc That’s in a years time after the transition period.
I’m a bit gutted about losing the EU roaming. It feels like that only just came in! I still get a kick out of using my phone for free in France of wherever. But looks like we can say goodbye to that come 2021 as well.
As for the poor pound, it’s never really recovered from 2016. How much more can the little guy take ?!

Yes I’m in the UK , in London - can’t you tell from my metorpolitan elite tone ? 😉
Where in Ireland are you ?
Haha. You do come across very well Horatio tbh haha. I'm very well spoken irl but can't be arsed here I'm usually on my breaks when I'm on here and just typing as quick as possible lol. Do you work in journalism or an English teacher 🤔🤔 lol

I'm Dublin but from Kerry in the south. Look up Derrynane beach i grew up there and its my favourite part of ireland 😍
My great granddad played a big part in 1916 so Brexit was talk of the year in my family 2019 thank Christ it's over but really now it's only beginning 😂 lollll
 
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I’m glad the process is over. I voted retail and the leave is a decision I think the uk will regret, but I respect that it was the decision voted for.
In the next decade I hope the Scotland will get independence and rejoin. I’m hopeful that NI will get the chance too, perhaps by rejoining ROI. Who knows.
No one up here in Scotland is happy. Feels thrust upon us, much like a con government.
 
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I’m glad the process is over. I voted retail and the leave is a decision I think the uk will regret, but I respect that it was the decision voted for.
In the next decade I hope the Scotland will get independence and rejoin. I’m hopeful that NI will get the chance too, perhaps by rejoining ROI. Who knows.
No one up here in Scotland is happy. Feels thrust upon us, much like a con government.
Two of my cousins are in politics in the roi and talks about getting the 6 counties back are happening all the time so looks like we might finally have a true republic 🎉
My Scottish mates / family all hoping for a republic too ! Hope yous get another referendum!!
 
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Two of my cousins are in politics in the roi and talks about getting the 6 counties back are happening all the time so looks like we might finally have a true republic 🎉
My Scottish mates / family all hoping for a republic too ! Hope yous get another referendum!!
I meant remain not retail. Jesus my fat thumbs and autocorrect do not a good forum member make.

A United ROI and Independent Scotland is the dream.
 
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I was delighted because I voted leave. Very much looking forward to the transition period coming to an end.
 
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I've accepted the outcome. But I'd be happier with it if the leave campaign wasn't full of lies and deception.
I think the outcome may have been different if it hadn't been. I also think a lot of people made the decision to vote leave for racist reasons but I won't get into that.
 
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I've accepted the outcome. But I'd be happier with it if the leave campaign wasn't full of lies and deception.
I think the outcome may have been different if it hadn't been. I also think a lot of people made the decision to vote leave for racist reasons but I won't get into that.
I think that is very unfair. In my lifetime the population has gone from 50 million to over 60 million. It depends where you live and how you have seen how life has changed and not for the better.
We are a very tolerant race and have welcomed refugees be it from Uganda or Vietnam. I put the blame totally on Tony Blair with his open door policy to all just so Labour could stay in power.
I work with carpenters electricians plumbers etc and all of them voted leave. How can you compete in pricing against someone who is living in a shared house with 12 others when you have a family to support with all the bills that go with it.
I understand the need and want for a better life but we just don’t have the infrastructure.
Brexit would never have come about if it hadn’t been for Labour and their policies. I say that after being a life long Labour supporter. Bunch of champagne socialists the lot of them.
 
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I momentarily live in Spain surrounded by British pensioners. Was wondering what that fireworks was last night. Thanks for the enlightenment 😅
Not a Brit myself but you guys are always welcome back!
 
I think that is very unfair. In my lifetime the population has gone from 50 million to over 60 million. It depends where you live and how you have seen how life has changed and not for the better.
We are a very tolerant race and have welcomed refugees be it from Uganda or Vietnam. I put the blame totally on Tony Blair with his open door policy to all just so Labour could stay in power.
I work with carpenters electricians plumbers etc and all of them voted leave. How can you compete in pricing against someone who is living in a shared house with 12 others when you have a family to support with all the bills that go with it.
I understand the need and want for a better life but we just don’t have the infrastructure.
Brexit would never have come about if it hadn’t been for Labour and their policies. I say that after being a life long Labour supporter. Bunch of champagne socialists the lot of them.
I’m not saying it’s everyone. But at least 75% of people I know who voted to leave, voted to leave because they say ‘they’re stealing our jobs’. 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
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I’m not saying it’s everyone. But at least 75% of people I know who voted to leave, voted to leave because they say ‘they’re stealing our jobs’. 🤷🏼‍♀️
what they mean is migrants are working for conditions not acceptable and are outcompeting in terms of labour.

would you come off universal credit (which takes weeks to process if you need to get back on) to pick up a zero hour contract, minimum wage job in a deprived area? In what right mind would you if you had a family to support?

Migrants have a distinct advantage in deprived areas: shared accommodation and cheap living costs, no adverse effects from zero contract hours and invariably better qualified and connected than existing inhabitants.

the sooner snotty middle class snowflakes and students realise that and stop going for the easy parroted racism card, the sooner we can repair swathes of the country that have been pillaged for decades.

edit to add: migration would not be so much of an issue if the infrastructure was there to support the population boom. Yes, there will always be racism and xenophobia. But what Brexit illustrated more than anything was a class war.

edit edit... look at at the maps. Deprivation (red) inequality in health (purple) and leave votes (blue). It’s *gasp* almost as if there’s a correlation 😱
 

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Saying you don’t want all and sundry to live here doesn’t make you a racist. As a nation we rely on immigration and we should welcome anyone willing to work with open arms whether that’s a cleaner or a doctor. What I don’t agree with is people moving here, claiming benefits then moving back home and still being able to claim benefits. Criminals from EU countries being able to move here because we had an open door policy. People abusing the NHS because they can. I’m hoping we can change this.
 
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Gosh there seems to be a lot of xenophobic undertones to some people’s comments. Before the Europeans, we were blaming the Irish, and before that it was someone else. Don’t make excuses for the fact that some British people refuse to work and are not prepared to get their hands dirty. Some “immigrants” are some of the hardest workers there are. I also don’t understand what Brexit has to do with Vietnamese and Ugandans. Most importantly, Free movement of people is NOT the same thing as accepting refugees.
 
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Deindustrialisation in these town has as much to do with why they voted leave as immigration. People are loosing skilled jobs such as steel workers etc and getting put into warehouses, call centres and Tesco stores. Politics has left the working class behind. Their voices haven’t been heard by recent governments and this time it has.
I am a remainer but I understand why.
This blog I think explains some of the why for working class voting.
 
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Gosh there seems to be a lot of xenophobic undertones to some people’s comments. Before the Europeans, we were blaming the Irish, and before that it was someone else. Don’t make excuses for the fact that some British people refuse to work and are not prepared to get their hands dirty. Some “immigrants” are some of the hardest workers there are. I also don’t understand what Brexit has to do with Vietnamese and Ugandans. Most importantly, Free movement of people is NOT the same thing as accepting refugees.
Please don’t start with that xenophobia. My point was we have always been welcoming to genuine refugees be it whatever nationality so don’t use racism in your argument. I agree some of the hardest workers have been from the EU but please try and understand you can not compete for a working wage when someone can do the job for half the price against someone paying full tax council tax and so on. We don’t and never have needed unskilled workers we have enough that were born here but thanks to Labour policies tax credits child credits they are better off not working.
 
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Please don’t start with that xenophobia. My point was we have always been welcoming to genuine refugees be it whatever nationality so don’t use racism in your argument. I agree some of the hardest workers have been from the EU but please try and understand you can not compete for a working wage when someone can do the job for half the price against someone paying full tax council tax and so on. We don’t and never have needed unskilled workers we have enough that were born here but thanks to Labour policies tax credits child credits they are better off not working.
I hear what you’re saying. Also, please respect that I am entitled to my own opinion, as are you. I never even directed my comment at you.

There are more reasons and consequences to leaving the EU than your issue of immigration. Sadly, most voters had tunnel vision and just focused on this issue as that’s what the right-wing’s rhetoric pedalled.

I do not doubt that actually this has more to do with class, and standing up to liberal elitism and people getting fed up with that, but I don’t think pointing the fingers at immigrants is the way forward. Sadly, I think a lot of people are quite delusional to think that leaving the EU will solve all their problems.

The real issue here is people should take responsibility for their own lives rather than blame external things. I can’t stand this mindset of believing they are a victim of the world and it’s machinations.
 
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I meant remain not retail. Jesus my fat thumbs and autocorrect do not a good forum member make.

A United ROI and Independent Scotland is the dream.
Ah yes the Celtic republics 😁😘 my friends in Scotland are to find me a Scottish man when I go over in a few weeks lol.
Love of my life = any man with a Scottish accent as long as it isn't a highland accent so I can understand him 😍😍😍😂

Ah yes the Celtic republics 😁😘 my friends in Scotland are to find me a Scottish man when I go over in a few weeks lol.
Love of my life = any man with a Scottish accent as long as it isn't a highland accent so I can understand him 😍😍😍😂
The I wouldn't even care if I could barely understand him lol.
Ugh I'm 5 foot 11 and James mcavoy is my bae even though he's so short. Or Kevin mckidd ♥😍😍😍😍
 
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Some remainers still don't get it. You can't express any concerns about how how you've been disadvantaged by very rapid mass immigration without being called racist or xenophobic. That's why people voted out. Some people felt the floor fall though on their job overnight, just because you weren't affected doesn't mean no one was.
 
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Ah yes the Celtic republics 😁😘 my friends in Scotland are to find me a Scottish man when I go over in a few weeks lol.
Love of my life = any man with a Scottish accent as long as it isn't a highland accent so I can understand him 😍😍😍😂



The I wouldn't even care if I could barely understand him lol.
Ugh I'm 5 foot 11 and James mcavoy is my bae even though he's so short. Or Kevin mckidd ♥😍😍😍😍
The Highlands (well Inverness) has one of the clearest accents you'll hear! So clear that call centres seek out Invernessians for their staff because they speak so well!
 
I voted leave for a variety of reasons but woud've been OK if the vote was remain. Like somebody else mentioned I'm so sick and tired of the far left and the far right jumping on their seperate band wagons and screaming Nationalism or Racism. I'm very middle of the road for politics so don't get the extremism.

You know what will happen the world will keep turning and in a few years this will just be another footnote in history.

Something to keep in mind is that the pound is already strengthening and that France, Italy and Portugal (amongst others) are also now talking about leaving the EU.

Personally I think the EU would've been more successful if they treated countries still individually instead of wanting us all to be the same.

On a side note, I moved to the UK at the beginning of 2004 and was offered £14ph for what is considered menial work. They opened the borders that May to Poland and within a couple of months wages dropped. You can still find the same work I was offered 16 years ago in London at the same £ p/h.
 
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