Interesting article from Washington Post covering this here: Is Judaism an ethnicity? A race? A nationality?How is that incorrect when it's true that being Jewish is not determined by your ethnicity or race, but by your religion? There are black and Asian Jews, so what race would you be discriminating against by being anti-Semitic?
I thought they were all still ethnically Jewish though because they're descended from ancient Israelites (12 tribes of Israel) that spread all over the world.How is that incorrect when it's true that being Jewish is not determined by your ethnicity or race, but by your religion? There are black and Asian Jews, so what race would you be discriminating against by being anti-Semitic?
When I saw this I couldn’t stop laughing. I can’t take Rishi seriously at all.WTAF?
Race and racism is a complicated subject, especially for Jews and especially in America. But to say that Jews and Travellers haven’t faced racism is grossly unfair. The Holocaust killed millions of Jews, Roma and Sinti and used racial stereotypes to oppress them. Them being white or white passing didn’t save them and the compare it to ginger people is rather disgustingInteresting article from Washington Post covering this here: Is Judaism an ethnicity? A race? A nationality?
I left more confused ... this line sums the article up: Like many good Jewish questions, the answer was both no and yes.
What doesn't help Dianne is her close association with comrade Corbyn and her, let's say, various faux pas in the past.When I saw this I couldn’t stop laughing. I can’t take Rishi seriously at all.
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Race and racism is a complicated subject, especially for Jews and especially in America. But to say that Jews and Travellers haven’t faced racism is grossly unfair. The Holocaust killed millions of Jews, Roma and Sinti and used racial stereotypes to oppress them. Them being white or white passing didn’t save them and the compare it to ginger people is rather disgusting
Sorry I’m a bit lost here - who’s Shelia and who’s the make racist?Glad to hear that Sheila put that racist in his place.
Should have quoted the message I was replying to from the previous page.Sorry I’m a bit lost here - who’s Shelia and who’s the make racist?
A bloke rang in to Sheila Fogarty's show yesterday afternoon to say that Diane's letter cant have been racist as being Jewish is a religion like Church of England, Catholic, etc and not a race. Never ceases to amaze me how people who know so little have the confidence to call in to a national radio station! Our She soon put him right
I do mandatory training in prejudice, bias, discrimination, etc because of my job but if I didnt work in a large organisation, Im not sure I'd know the difference to be fair.
Nelson Mandela called for Peace and Reconcilliation when trying to unify South Africa, that's why he's a great man. Not like these money-grabbing, race-baiting people calling for reparations.Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has dismissed a call for the government to apologise and pay reparations for the UK's historic role in slavery.
I agree. That's one American import we don't need, this reparations bullsh1te.
How is it bullshite when descendants of slave owners are sitting on wealth generated by the slave trade today (former prime minister David Cameron for example) and UK taxpayers paid slave owners compensation for their "lost property" i.e slaves up until 2015?Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has dismissed a call for the government to apologise and pay reparations for the UK's historic role in slavery.
I agree. That's one American import we don't need, this reparations bullsh1te.
The Europeans grabbed the money, people, wealth and assets first...Not like these money-grabbing, race-baiting people calling for reparations.
Also, how insulting to speak on people who are descendants of one of the most violent acts in history in this way.Not like these money-grabbing, race-baiting people calling for reparations
Even if one was to accept that accusation was true, which is a stretch, it's a race to the bottom then? How much do these people want in reparations? How much is one person worth? Show your workings. How far are we going back here? Do descendents of troglodytes deserve reparations due to all the pain and suffering caused by homosapiens?The Europeans grabbed the money, people, wealth and assets first...
The Europeans capitalised on the idea that people of certain races were lesser than first....
Maybe ask the families who received compensation until 2015 for each slave they "lost" how much a person is worth?So it's a race to the bottom then? How much do these people want in reparations? How much is one person worth? Show your workings.
I don't think it's complicated because the UK knew exactly who to direct the money to when it came to paying compensation.It would get very complicated paying back, and some people who classed themselves as due reparations might find that they too had to cough up for what their ancestors did.
I’m sure they’d be classed as servants Kev !that’s how they termed Irish slaves ,taken abroad ,starved ,put into forced labour, even sold but because they didn’t have a lifetime of hell they were only servants according to laws drawn up at the timeMeh, let me know when modern slavery, which is happening NOW on every high street in Britain through nail bars, car washes, restaurant/takeaways etc is fully solved. Then we can come back and start to look at things from hundreds of years ago.
Slavery in the UK
Modern slavery still thrives in Britain today, with up to 13,000 estimated to be victims of trafficking. Find out how people end up in slavery in the UK.www.antislavery.org
That old chestnut. Very convenient as there will always be more recent events, because that's how life and history work.Meh, let me know when modern slavery, which is happening NOW on every high street in Britain through nail bars, car washes, restaurant/takeaways etc is fully solved. Then we can come back and start to look at things from hundreds of years ago.
Slavery in the UK
Modern slavery still thrives in Britain today, with up to 13,000 estimated to be victims of trafficking. Find out how people end up in slavery in the UK.www.antislavery.org
Another atrocity which needs correcting.I’m sure they’d be classed as servants Kev !that’s how they termed Irish slaves ,taken abroad ,starved ,put into forced labour, even sold but because they didn’t have a lifetime of hell they were only servants according to laws drawn up at the time
It's estimated that 70% of wealthy families will lose their wealth by the second generation and 90% will lose it by the third. So seeking reparations from the descendants of slave owners is bullsh1t. Plus, the British government didn't just end paying slave owners compensation in 2015, it was the debt they incurred in abolishing slavery in the early 19th century that was finally settled, not payments to slave owners! Which was an enoromous figure for the time, accounting for 40% of Britain's budget. Britain paid an almost crippling financial cost to lead the way and abolish slavery, at a time when slavery was commonplace everywhere in the entire world... but still 1807 isn't woke enough by 2023 standards for some. Britain has nothing to be ashamed about in leading the world in ending slavery.How is it bullshite when descendants of slave owners are sitting on wealth generated by the slave trade today (former prime minister David Cameron for example) and UK taxpayers paid slave owners compensation for their "lost property" i.e slaves up until 2015?
Wealthy families and institutions can literally draw a line between their assets and the slave trade.
Poor countries and communities can also literally draw a line between their poverty and the slave trade/colonialism.
And where do you think these American slave owners came from? I'll give you a hint, many of them are British!
If reparations are the solution, Britain is not less guilty than America.
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The Europeans grabbed the money, people, wealth and assets first...
The Europeans capitalised on the idea that people of certain races were lesser than first....
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Also, how insulting to speak on people who are descendants of one of the most violent acts in history in this way.
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