Huge rush of people trying to sell off their Balenciaga after their recent ad campaign with the kids? It was poor taste tbh but if you like your items it will blow over 
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Looks like weâre losing H&M 
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Thank you for sharing this is v interesting! If even H&M canât make physical retailing work in the UK itâs no wonder small high streets across the country are suffering. I wonder if theyâll keep other H&M group stores going or will we see some of them shut too? Theyâre admittedly at a v diff price point but I never see anyone in Arket when I walk past itâs always just a vast white expanse.Looks like weâre losing H&M
honestly⌠itâs no great loss. H&M own a plethora of high street shops, none of them are sustainableLooks like weâre losing H&M
Or ethical. H&M is one of the biggest polluters in the fast fashion industry.
sorry to be a Debbie downer but realistically, this is good news (not the job losses per se). We need less H&Ms as it stands.
i never understood why h&m had so many stores, at one point there were 3 in manchester city centre (2 in the arndale and one outside on market street) and then a h&m in like every greater manchester town lol
surely they would ditch the subsidary brands like monki and weekday first??
surely they would ditch the subsidary brands like monki and weekday first??
i agree to an extent but places like h&m are losing business to places like PLT and SHEIN which are way worse
I'll be so sad if H&M goes, it's genuinely one of the last places on the high street with relatively decent quality clothes and nice cuts for a good price - i've had so many of their pieces for years, i'm on the 5th year of my favourite mohair jumper from there and i've worn it a million times and STILL doesn't pile!
I understand their sustainable practices might be questionable but as someone who is obsessed with fashion and clothes i find it really hard to find decent clothes for over size 14 x
I understand their sustainable practices might be questionable but as someone who is obsessed with fashion and clothes i find it really hard to find decent clothes for over size 14 x
100% this!! This thread has repeatedly spoken to quality and sustainability/ethics so itâs not as if anyone is bemoaning not being able to do YouTube haul content or buy a new outfit for one single night out, itâs accessibly priced at a time household budgets are stretched and provided people make those clothes last then itâs not âfast fashionâ in that sense. Their model and supply chain needs an overhaul but the only way to do that is change consumer demand from the hyper consumers rather than completely withdrawing from the market and pushing consumers who buy what they need & make it last into the arms of e-commerce fast fashion giants, who invest a fortune into mechanisms that drive increasing order frequency & size (value and items).
Idk I always think thereâs a tinge of classism with relentless discussions of sustainability re H&M, Primark etc, no one said it about Debenhams or Next yet they use the same suppliers? Even luxury fashion isnât sustainably produced and exploits garment workers but thereâs a v vocal section of society who want to punch down at households who donât have the luxury of time or money to shop elsewhereâŚ? Itâs not a v inclusive discourse and doesnât endear ppl to change imo.
The problem is guys is that Gen Z like this polyester crop top PLT stuff whilst saying theyâre environmentally conscious. If it didnât sell, they wouldnât make it. PLT and boohoo are way more popular than Zara etc, and I actually think primark is better quality
whilst saying theyâre environmentally conscious. If it didnât sell, they wouldnât make it. PLT and boohoo are way more popular than Zara etc, and I actually think primark is better qualityYep exactly. Like everything online is a well oiled machine now from âorganicâ social media content > paid retargeting > on site mechanics to cross and up sell > super fast fulfilment > short garment lifespan > back on tiktok to start it all again next week. Like a fortune is spent by brands and until a notable % of consumers opt out then someone will be there fulfilling that demand. If H&M are going ecomm only all itâll mean is theyâll start poaching the top dogs from PLT and boohoo to make it work, it wonât be the end at all.The problem is guys is that Gen Z like this polyester crop top PLT stuff
Itâs interesting, Iâve noticed quite a few Arcadia execs are now top dogs at Boohoo/PLT? I mean why would they want them, theyâve got good fast fashion knowledge I guess but Arcadia failed
Maybe the women were smarter than Phillip and it wasnât their fault.I spoke about this in the I think magazine thread but a lot of stuff is becoming just clicking through, automated, shop the link etc- fashion product writing is dying out, a lot of websites are automating or removing their descriptions as nobody reads them, theyâve arrived at the site through an ad etc
Itâs interesting isnât it. I know Topshop failed but it doesnât change the fact there were a lot of incredibly talented people that worked there and made it how great it was whoâll have a lot of industry experience, Iâm more inclined to think why on earth would they want to go there as itâs such a downgrade from Topshop but such is survival under capitalism I suppose. And tbh there are increasingly few retailers to go to - and a lot of them end up getting absorbed into the same few big groups anywayItâs interesting, Iâve noticed quite a few Arcadia execs are now top dogs at Boohoo/PLT? I mean why would they want them, theyâve got good fast fashion knowledge I guess but Arcadia failed
I spoke about this in the I think magazine thread but a lot of stuff is becoming just clicking through, automated, shop the link etc- fashion product writing is dying out, a lot of websites are automating or removing their descriptions as nobody reads them, theyâve arrived at the site through an ad etc
So you could start out working for a nice independent menswear brand and before you know it boohoo group or Mike Ashley owns the gaff. Itâs pretty bleak, and this is at the large national scale it really goes to show how traditional bricks and mortar retail just isnât tenable for small businesses operating on normal (eg not exploitative and/or environmentally ruinous!) margins.The H&M local to me always seems busy, same with Zara. I hardly shop in either of them but Iâll be sad to see them go. The staff at my local New Look are really great, Iâd hate for it to go.
I agree but the problem is it is not being replaced by anything sustainable is it? al it means is that most of the people who shop there will go to asos or boohoo, which are even worse, ethically and for the environment. I very rarely buy anything online because I want to support the high street, it is depressing to go out and have a whole street that is half empty. Not to mention if I worked in retail I would prefer to work in a physical shop than an amazon warehouse
i always thought topshop was amazing as a buisness. You could tell it had a lot of talent. The nameless team behind it, from buyers to marketing, really built a great store selling good products. Not to mention the leadership of Jane Shepherdson.Itâs interesting isnât it. I know Topshop failed but it doesnât change the fact there were a lot of incredibly talented people that worked there and made it how great it was whoâll have a lot of industry experience, Iâm more inclined to think why on earth would they want to go there as itâs such a downgrade from Topshop but such is survival under capitalism I suppose. And tbh there are increasingly few retailers to go to - and a lot of them end up getting absorbed into the same few big groups anyway
Phil green just asset stripped it essentially and didnât input much other than⌠money.
jane left because she didnât like the fast fashion direction Phil and Kate Moss were taking topshop in 2007, she didnât agree with the exploitative nature of it and I think ended up doing a stint at Oxfam.
maybe they donât need to be replaced..? We need to buy less as a general rule anyway, sustainable sourced or not - as a nation, we over consume. Maybe we should have less shops as a whole, smaller high streets?
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Absolutely. The lack of options and drop in quality is either forcing people to shop the new wave of fast fashion or rely on second hand clothing, the latter of which is getting more expensive and with more demand and competition as more people gravitate towards this.
While I absolutely think we can all reduce our consumption, when you have growing children, your body size changes, or your clothes wear out you have no choice but to engage. My wardrobe is still full of a lot of clothes I wore when I was 23/24 that either don't fit or are starting to make me look like lamb dressed up as mutton. Or they're New Look/H&M and starting to wear out. And god help the "vintage" 90s stuff I wore as a student trying to be edgy that I still have at the back of my closet lol. Replacing them and not relying on fast fashion is a slow process and tbh one of privilege that I have the time, money and energy to do.
Although influencers doing Shein hauls and people saying "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" to justify these type of hauls can get in the bin lol x
While I absolutely think we can all reduce our consumption, when you have growing children, your body size changes, or your clothes wear out you have no choice but to engage. My wardrobe is still full of a lot of clothes I wore when I was 23/24 that either don't fit or are starting to make me look like lamb dressed up as mutton. Or they're New Look/H&M and starting to wear out. And god help the "vintage" 90s stuff I wore as a student trying to be edgy that I still have at the back of my closet lol. Replacing them and not relying on fast fashion is a slow process and tbh one of privilege that I have the time, money and energy to do.
Although influencers doing Shein hauls and people saying "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" to justify these type of hauls can get in the bin lol x
Fenwick Oxford street is closing - not that Iâve ever been in it 
Canât say Iâm surprised but interested to know this threadâs thoughts!
Canât say Iâm surprised but interested to know this threadâs thoughts!
It was too hidden away so nobody knew where it was- and whatâs its USP?Fenwick Oxford street is closing - not that Iâve ever been in it
Canât say Iâm surprised but interested to know this threadâs thoughts!
shame though as itâs just going to be offices
we need some heart in the high streetthe thing is, is probably won't even be offices. I work in the area of the city, and half of the offices there are empty most of the time, most people in those kind of jobs are WFH now, it will just be yet another empty building or one of those tax dodging US candy shopsIt was too hidden away so nobody knew where it was- and whatâs its USP?
shame though as itâs just going to be offices
Says itâs going to be offices here but yeah youâre right, nobodyâs there.
Bringing it ironically back to Topshop, I used to work off Oxford Street as well and there used to be such a buzz with all the department stores and the massive Topshop etc- itâs just so sad now, obvs still Liberty JL Selfridges etc but so many junk stores and footfall is much lower
London College of Fashion was there so always used to see the students, now itâs moving to StratfordThey should really create a brand targeted at those no younger than 30 and no older than 45. That will get rid of both the neon crop tops and the granny stuff
