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Cariad

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Thank you I totally agree. I have read some of those trials as well and they are done in France too, as research/experimental approach .
I've worked in oncology research for over 15 years....this trial is over 10 years old and is the basis for current practice - that's why trials are done- to hopefully improve patient outcomes and try new approaches/ treatments-
however it should be noted not all trial results are positive - but still answer v important clinical questions- without trials there would be no advancements in treatment
 
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Sheba

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She is, but isn't it awful that she is also so ILL? It's hard to react properly or compassionately which is a shame because it would be good to be able to do that.
yes, that is why I try not to be angry in my remarks to anyone here or to her. It *is* tragic.

Homeless drug addiction is also tragic. But don't steal my stuff or defecate on my lawn. Know what I mean?
 
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Sheba

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Do you also have bullet journals, saucepans and cozy slippers? 🤣🤣🤣
Well, I am only one person, so I can only create one collection at a time...
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The best idea! I can link you to all the items I use. I'll just put links, they won't cost any extra. I hope they help you.
 
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helpmeunderstand?

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Well, I can give her this. She's sharing a raw journey from a first person perspective. No one can say she did not document what happened in the hospital. LOL. Even her own confusion.

At the end of the day, it's her home video. I have to step back and let it be. Her storytelling (via editing) may be mawkish to me... but her vlog series will be her body of creative work representing her.

Maybe I should stick to cancer bloggers whose journey is done. I can pick and choose episodes. Skip forward for answers. They don't currently need my support.

As far as TT goes, it can only be a couple of weeks before she either has the surgery or... not... right?
Great points! From now on, only cancer vloggers whose journey is complete.
 
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EmyUrban

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Just a thought.
Could the reason they didn't collect cancerous cells last time is because they couldn't reach the physical tumour then either?
Would there an option to open her up to get a better sample, or at that stage is it invasive enough to just proceed with the surgery anyway and that's why they're waiting on scan results to decide?
I guess the latter … Who knows the surgeon didn’t say much according to Tiffany …
 
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PW212

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I don't think they remove everything automatically. Doctors usually take individualized approach. I think in her case bladder, ureters, urethra, external geni
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she also had an op about 9or 10 yrs ago on her tummy..but it doesn’t mean it was cancer either time and they wouldn’t just be freezing her eggs this time..cos earlier treatment would of made her infertile
in a 9 yr old vid she says she cant eat spicy food. Sound like crohns or ulcerative colitis. Who knows tho.
 
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PW212

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Just leaving this here for all those outside the UK who seem to think that The RM is some back street clinic 🤦‍♀️Based of Tiffany’s vlogs.
I believe you have hit the nail on the head now! She is enrolled in this clinical trial but is being deliberately vague and confusing about it. She must have had at least a partial improvement so she is on the 8 week repeat of scans side of the protocol. Her surgeon is heavily involved with research and lecturing and likely this is his main interest of his practice. If she didn’t have at least a partial response or no visible tumour they go right into surgery. He told her that he coukd offer surgery instead but clearly he thinks she may have a better outcome or extended life with this protocol. The issue is IT IS A RESEARCH PROJECT. Not sure how many have been enrolled thus far and how good their outcomes are vs the control groups which are thise that actually go right to surgery after their CRT IS DONE. She chooses to try and avoid the surgery at all costs even though tnis is emerging research. It has not been proven as yet I believe. Its a crap shoot imo and at her late stage I am skeptical. Its her life, its her choice but be frank. Tell viewers you chose this path and they will support you. Dont try and evade what may be a good choice for you and dont try and hide that you have had some good news and what that news actually is. Lets see if she gets more CRT or surgery after her next meeting with the surgeon. We will then know what her response likely was. If more growth or no rebression then the chart goes to surgery. Its a MEDICAL MYSTERY TOUR Snakes and Ladders Edition! Im going to ask her plainly if she is on this research protocol. Of course she wont admit it.
 
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Doc22

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Lets remind ourselves of her possible surgical outcomes first. Removal of rectum, anus, some colon, vagina, poss clitoris, ovaries, cervix, uterus, bladder, some peritoneum, fallopian tubes, urethra. Partial or full. Now, look at TT and Darling. Are they the thpe of people that would be able to cope or fight through all of the possible consequences from this type of life altering last ditch surgery??? Ummm NO. They heard the total picture of what it may or would entail and you saw it in their eyes in the video. Darling looked like he just saw a ghost or worse. Things changed drastically after that fateful video and Dr meeting. The doc had to offer something else so he may have offered to wait and watch. No one can force any procedure on anyone. Not even a life saving one. Its very sad but sometimes there are no real viable options bc diagnosis was delayed for whatever the reasons or its just horrible bad luck.
I don't think they remove everything automatically. Doctors usually take individualized approach. I think in her case bladder, ureters, urethra, external genitalia -vulva would remain intact. It depends if the cancer has reached these organs. What I deducated from her videos that her cancer has reached posterior vaginal wall and uterus. Yes, she would have stoma. Cannot bear children but luckly she freezed her eggs.
 
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Idrisrex

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why wasnt it pain in the hospital.. liquid morphilne why?
She is taking morphine for a considerable amount of time now. First it was because she suffered from pain from the radiotherapy, but that is also more than 2 months ago. Then she had very much pain from her first biopsy. So I think the morphine was a stayer in the end.
 
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BCrowl

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Just asked for a truthful update because todays comments are a repeat of what we all said months ago. Maybe she will respond to this? I thought it was worth a shot…
This was excellent! I just saw it a few minutes ago and took a screenshot to share here. I posted it in a reply to someone else before I read this!
 
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the us has the top five best Cancer treatment and research centers in the world but okay sis. go off :rolleyes:
I dont think the difference is in the quality but access/cost. For sure usa has the best medical centers, cutting edge treatment centers, best doctors but the question is can you afford it? You can go broke here if you get sick or have major accident and dont have the right insurance.
 
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virgocat

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yes but in later videos she put that decision onto not only her surgeon but her onoclogist with "they all recommend waiting"
this is why I now genuinely don't believe anything she says, too many things don't add up. Like the fact she made out she wasn't told it would be someone else carrying out her latest biopsies, that just wouldn't happen, unless the surgeon had an emergency which he obviously didn't since she spoke to him later on after she demanded to see him.
 
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Idrisrex

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Yes, Ivermectin for covid. Fenbendazole for cancer now. Sigh...



Me too. I missed whatever happened too. Seemed to have shaken up the place. Not supposed to talk about it, per the mods...
Message clear and taken. Thanks. 👍
 
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oceanbaby

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Glad to see the wait and watch issue being discussed as it's something I have been really confused about. It's been established her surgeon is an excellent one so are people not believing that he told her that would be his recommendation? She said he gave her the options but said that he himself recommends wait and watch. I see a lot of people thinking she should have had surgery, something I agree with, but it would also seem she is just following her doctor's advice so should we really fault her on following the advice of such a well respected surgeon?
 
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pooch&mutt

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Sure Tiffany does not appear to be mentally up to living with all the consequences yet … But according to what she said, surgeon never said surgery was off the table completely . I think that if there is anything on MRI he might push for surgery as soon as possible, Tiffany ready or not.
I think it’d depend where the new activity was cos they know that it’d take her longer to recover than she’d probably have time left depending..and they said she could likely be incurable so the surgery would basically screw up her quality of life for what?
 
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Doc22

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Something has just crossed my mind. Is it possible that her family have been told she’s terminal and they have requested to keep the information from her? That would explain the constant ambiguity from the specialist. The avoidance of her surgeon and the way Mat and Ama just smile and agree with all her wishes? Her surgeon advised her not to go private. He’s hardly involved any more. Her bleeding, nausea and frailty sadly are serious. I’m surprised she’s not on fluids. Generally from what I know there comes a point when fluids aren’t given and it’s just pain relief and anti sickness meds. There’s also no mention of the Mc Milan nurse that is always assigned to a cancer patient here in the UK to help support not only the patient but the family too. This is all extremely sad.
I don't think so. She is stage 3. Still can be cured. But 2 months without therapy her condition might become worse. Or maybe she really had late nearly complete response to chemoradiation that is why they waited. Who knows. Aggressive biopsies were taken radiation damaged rectum, that can be one of the reason of the prolonged bleeding. Or the bleeding can be from cancer. Probably we would know soon.
 
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