but what you’re describing is institutional racism though. “Only X amount of people know the etiquette”. If an institution is formed for a specific set of people, by a certain set of people and includes a specific set of people - that is institutional racism. For example, the met police was found in an inquest to be institutionally racist, partly because a large number of its members were white (among other things). You can apply rationale as to why this might be - more people in the U.K. are white than any other ethnicity for example. But that doesn’t detract from the inherent racism.So you know every single friend that they all have?
Also I think in the past the "top" roles in their team required very specific knowledge of the etiquette, history etc of the role of Monarch. Who is likely to have that knowledge? People who have grown up in similar families or been to school in those idiot highly selective schools. I'm not excusing the pale,male,stale recruitment but it does explain why historically I imagine it has happened.
Charles once famously had a crush on one of the 3 Degrees, a person of mixed race I believe. The Price's Trust has also supported thousands of disadvantages people from all backgrounds, races and cultures. He also wanted (though was thwarted) of being known as "Defender of Faiths" didn't he?
I'm not his fan, I find him petty, petulant and pointless, but racist? Nope I don't think so.
I agree. The racism with Meghan is difficult to navigate.. I don’t doubt she has experienced it, that there were undertones of it in the press. But she’s also massively ignored the huge goodwill she did enjoy.. and she has used any racism in a manipulative way. It’s difficult to discuss Meghan Markle in the context of racism because I don’t want to perpetuate the myth of the “perfect victim” but equally it’s hard to deny just how much she has I used race as a way to dodge any valid criticism.Not like Meghan has any idea either considering the fact she was raised as a privileged white girl. Making a comment about what a child could potentially look like is not racist. It was pretty obvious that was all made up to stir up hatred, which worked, and to try to get the upper hand of the situation where these two grifters wanted more and more money, which was the entire basis of why they left. They didn’t get what they wanted, so they tried to go nuclear by making up all kinds of accusations when in reality, the red carpet was rolled out for them, and they were given almost anything and everything they could’ve ever wanted.
It is pretty funny, considering she is the one who married the actual racist with a history of racist behavior.
None of this has actually anything to do with the issue of diversity in royal households.
I’m not sure on the breakdown of senior staff for Archewell, but it’s currently headed by James Holt, who has been called their right hand Man. To describe him he is…I suppose the way to tell their commitment to the cause since leaving the royal family is how many of their current staff represent those not at the upper echelons of the royal family. Is Archewell headed up by a middle aged white guy?
but what you’re describing is institutional racism though. “Only X amount of people know the etiquette”. If an institution is formed for a specific set of people, by a certain set of people and includes a specific set of people - that is institutional racism. For example, the met police was found in an inquest to be institutionally racist, partly because a large number of its members were white (among other things). You can apply rationale as to why this might be - more people in the U.K. are white than any other ethnicity for example. But that doesn’t detract from the inherent racism.
Charles having a crush on a woman of colour or black woman doesn’t make him racist or non racist. It could mean he fetishes race as much as it means he doesn’t care about it. It doesn’t mean anything.
charles inner circle is well known - evidenced by the people he keeps in his employ, guests to his personal events, the people who he associates with most closely - the mount battens, the Shands, the van cupsems. I could relay a ton of friends or associates he keeps that are white and aristocratic/upper middle class. I’d struggle to find a single person from a different background.
is Charles, as an individual, racist? I can’t say, I have no idea. But he certainly doesn’t surround himself with people from a diverse range of backgrounds and ethnicities, so it’s fair to assume he doesn’t have a good grasp on the experiences of the vast majority of people in the U.K., an ethnically, socially and culturally diverse country.
no, that’s not what I’m saying. for one, you and your group of friends aren’t an institution. The royal family is.What you are essentially saying is that if you don't have a group of mixed and diverse friends then you are racists which is nonsense.
I am 56 and my group of friends all consist of people with similar backgrounds and social class. Not planned but just the way it is. We get along because of shared experiences and outlook. It's the same with Charles. Why on earth would he be friends with Dave the bin man from Rotherham? In the area where I grew up in Liverpool there were no people of colour at all. Still isn't to be honest. Very much a white, working class area. Does that make the people in that area racists?
I actually think Charles is probably the most progressive of TRF.
Could they sue Omid or the publisher for this at all? I forget how strict our slander laws are.It’s because it’s unproven and therefore slander. Any respectable news source that published it would most likely to subjected to a defamation case. Nothing to do with censoring a UK audience and all to do with our slander laws being way more rigid than other countries.
Could they use the words ‘allegedly’ and get around it that way? Or is that too flimsy an excuse?Interestingly in this new book Scobie states there is no injunction out on it as has been speculated, it’s just that no journalist has ever found proof so can’t publish it
I don’t think Meghan employed anyone of a different race when she was a royal either? I swear they were all white women with business backgrounds.like I mentioned before, she hasn’t ever challenged the institutionally racism and lack of diversity in the RF households.
for goodness sake Scobie, anyone with an internet connection can find them.Omid Scobie says he could name the two 'royal racists' in the future
Mr Scobie's book has caused chaos after the Dutch translation appeared to name a person alleged to have commented on the skin colour of the baby Prince Harry and Meghan.www.dailymail.co.uk
Omid says he'll have to keep the names of the two royal racists to himself for now. They're really dragging the arse out of this.
no, that’s not what I’m saying. for one, you and your group of friends aren’t an institution. The royal family is.
two, I’m not commenting on your personal circumstances. Why shouldn’t Charles be friends with Dave the bin man? As head of state, shouldn’t he make a concerted effort to surround himself with a variety of people?
And regardless, I wasn’t arguing who he should or shouldn’t be friends with. I was making a point that his circle is full of the same Type of people which will inevitably frame his outlook.
He just have got the nod to name them. Maybe the RF just want to get it over withPiers Morgan just named them on his show. It's all about to kick the fuck off and I'm just here for the drama
And what names did he say?Piers Morgan just named them on his show. It's all about to kick the fuck off and I'm just here for the drama
The weird thing was that when they left and had their own staff in America, very very few of them have ever been anything but whiteMarkle's hardly done anything to promote diversity in royal households. Quite the opposite.
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