I think it’s because in an autobiography he’s described as being raised to not like the monarchy and only really admired Diana for her with with HIV/AIDS. I would imagine because he had an OBE and worked with Camilla his views had softened.It was lovely that Camilla said something publicly about Paul's passing. She has also said she will contact the family privately. They worked and met together many times.
What is depressing is the number of people on social media who seem to think he hates the monarchy. He did have some socialist views but he accepted an OBE and seemed to have a good relationship with Camilla.
Camilla cherishes 'waggy-tailed memories' in emotional tribute to Paul O'Grady
Queen Camilla has paid a emotional tribute to TV presenter and comedian Paul O'Grady who has died at the age of 67 saying she is "deeply saddened" to learn of his deathwww.mirror.co.uk
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Or maybe he would have preferred not have a monarchy but was also not having extra strong feelings about it, so had no problem to accept the OBE and could see the value in Camilla’s work and maybe even like her as a person? I mean that’s a completely normal approach. Just because I prefer white wine doesn’t mean I can’t drink red and also enjoy it. It seems people have no idea that you can live happily even if things aren’t exactly as you want them to and that not everything has to be accompanied by deep feelings.
It would also be completely possible to support a republican movement and still accept the order and work with a royal charity and like a royal as a person.
Really, it seems people have no idea to be calm and balanced about anything anymore. Everything little thing gets polarised, it’s crazy. And at the same time everyone expects people to be accepting that a heterogeneous society has multiple views and ways of life. It certainly can’t be both though.
It would also be completely possible to support a republican movement and still accept the order and work with a royal charity and like a royal as a person.
Really, it seems people have no idea to be calm and balanced about anything anymore. Everything little thing gets polarised, it’s crazy. And at the same time everyone expects people to be accepting that a heterogeneous society has multiple views and ways of life. It certainly can’t be both though.
Looking at that photo of Camilla, wow, some weight loss, her shoulder blades are very prominent.
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Either way, he's a big loss, I'm puzzled that his views on royalty would be the 1st thing to come to mind upon hearing of his passing.
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People also need to remember he was raised in an Irish household, father from the west of Ireland, mother born in England to Irish parents. (He said his love of farming stemmed from summers spent on the farm his dad grew up on). That doesn't necessarily mean rampantly republican but it wouldn't imply a house adorned with Royal memorabilia either.
Either way, he's a big loss, I'm puzzled that his views on royalty would be the 1st thing to come to mind upon hearing of his passing.
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I noticed that too, and she seems so unsure of what she is doing. I think she finding it all too much. it doesn’t help that protocol dictates that she walks a step behind him etc. maybe it’s time they dispensed with this and allowed her to be by Charles's side for support and reassurance
They love each other dearly, after all they have been through hell and high water to be together.
I remember years ago a bloke going mad at the "powers that be" for the pressure they were putting on Kate when she lost loads of weight.
Maybe that is what is bearing down on Camilla. And yet they say that Camilla is stronger than Charles.
One thing that should help her is the fact that Paul O'Grady gave her the seal of approval. The public will be less likely to believe the stories against her.
No it isn't, there are plenty of admirable things to remember him by his love of animals and how he raised Battersea 's profile his natural wit and I still felt that despite his celebrity status he was still "one of us".
Absolutely … it’s the flip side to the coin of quite liking the monarchy but thinking it needs an overhaul and not having the default knee jerk reaction that everyone associated with it (in the … tweaked … words of my gran) pees port wine and poos maderia cake.
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He genuinely seems to have been loved and respected by everyone who came into contact with him. No one seems to have had a bad word to say, which is amazing. I know obituaries are generally kind but you can usually get things hidden between the lines but there is nothing there.
I have lurked on this thread for ages but one thing I really like when reading it is the largely balanced view that like any institution full of human beings, the RF has good elements to be praised and other elements that need to be critiqued or held accountable. I agree totally with @Great_Kate there seems to be a complete lack of nuance or balanced thought now, you either have to love someone or cancel them, no between. Same with the Meghan and Harry thing. I can have sympathy towards some of their grievances and past experiences while also acknowledging that in the last few months Harry especially has acted like a prize twit 
If Paul OGrady could look beyond any socialist or republican views he had to see Camilla as a person and enjoy their shared love of dogs, then it's a credit to him and shows what a decent man he was.
If Paul OGrady could look beyond any socialist or republican views he had to see Camilla as a person and enjoy their shared love of dogs, then it's a credit to him and shows what a decent man he was.
He was also aware that many people would take animal welfare more seriously if Camilla stepped in and it raise Battersea's profile evenore than he had already done.I have lurked on this thread for ages but one thing I really like when reading it is the largely balanced view that like any institution full of human beings, the RF has good elements to be praised and other elements that need to be critiqued or held accountable. I agree totally with @Great_Kate there seems to be a complete lack of nuance or balanced thought now, you either have to love someone or cancel them, no between. Same with the Meghan and Harry thing. I can have sympathy towards some of their grievances and past experiences while also acknowledging that in the last few months Harry especially has acted like a prize twit
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I think Camilla is doing a great job. I always thought, and there are MANY people who will disagree with me, that she wanted Charles not the role. And by that I mean he was her one true love but she would have probably quite happily swerved the public role that came with being his wife. Not to mention she had to take all this on much later in life and has an impossible comparison being flung at her at every turn. When it was revealed that she was soldering on with a broken toe (?) whilst on her feet for god knows how long when the Queen died she cemented the fact that she would do anything to support Charles. I think she’s great for him and had they never been allowed to marry or be together I think he would be a totally different, and probably less likeable, man.
My view is that whoever thought that Diana would make a suitable life partner for Charles made a big mistake in terms of her psychological incompatibility. True she fitted the bill in terms of her "purity" and "breeding" under Royal "standards" but nothing else boded well for the future. Thank goodness we have moved on from such considerations. By the time Prince George becomes ruler there probably won't be any gender distinction at all
I totally agree and would argue it’s a real “sign of the times” that she was chosen purely for her background and “purity” with no thought given to her emotional intelligence etc. If they were to handpick a wife for George, which I doubt, you can bet her mental strength and characteristics would be top of the checklistMy view is that whoever thought that Diana would make a suitable life partner for Charles made a big mistake in terms of her psychological incompatibility. True she fitted the bill in terms of her "purity" and "breeding" under Royal "standards" but nothing else boded well for the future. Thank goodness we have moved on from such considerations. By the time Prince George becomes ruler there probably won't be any gender distinction at all
I agree with this wholeheartedly
Apologies for quoting myself
Diana's father was engaged to another woman and it was called off as the Spencers thought she had 'madblood'!My view is that whoever thought that Diana would make a suitable life partner for Charles made a big mistake in terms of her psychological incompatibility. True she fitted the bill in terms of her "purity" and "breeding" under Royal "standards" but nothing else boded well for the future. Thank goodness we have moved on from such considerations. By the time Prince George becomes ruler there probably won't be any gender distinction at all
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Diana's affairs are accepted by many. I've seen so many comments saying that it's absolutely fine that she cheated as Charles cheated first. By using that analogy, doesn't that mean Camilla's cheating is also acceptable? Her husband cheated on her throughout their marriage.
People vilify Camila and call her a side-piece when Diana was just as bad.
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