The Moscow/Idaho Murders #2

[Luce0331]

I think the Door Dash thing is rubbish, why would you accept food that you didn’t order? Especially if it had your name on it surely you’d be creeped out at the possibility of someone buying food and sending it to your home

 

[AladdinSane]

Yea, the "why didn't she get up and check on her roommates, we always checked on our friends, why didn't she call the police immediately?!?!?" talk is so unhelpful and unnecessary. You really think she's not kicking herself for that over and over again? Everyone needs to back off the woman, if the police thought she did something wrong I don't think they'd just let her walk free. One of the two TikTok creators I trust to cover this case said it best: She did her job, she survived. Even if she had called 911 immediately, it wouldn't bring the four murdered people back to life.

It's time to stop saying with any certainty whatsoever what you think you'd do in the situation (using the general "you", not any specific poster), because you were not in the situation. You don't know how you'd react. You just don't. We all like to think we'd react perfectly but until/unless the situation arises, you. do. not. know. And I hope to g-d it stays that way. Because no one should have to live with that horror.

100% this.
Even if she had called the police, he had left and had likely sped off into the night. There was no way calling the police or paramedics would bring those poor 4 kids back. And I can guarantee she is probably beating herself up about it every day.

I can't even imagine the horror and fear she felt, even if she only thought it was a burglary. I've heard a noise downstairs in my house before and instead of going to check on it, I've got up, shut my door and hidden under the covers until morning. And I saw no one. The fear from seeing a randomer would be enough to have me locking the door and not coming out until someone I knew came to get me.

She's already lost 4 people in the most brutal circumstances. The last thing she needs is all the social media vultures (not aimed at anyone here, more at tiktokers and twitter!) blaming her and questioning her motives. The poor girl must be mentally exhausted.

 

[Treesy19]

Wow wow wow. That was more than I was expecting. The police got criticised for weeks but of course they were very very busy linking all this. This is excellent police and forensic work.

The knife sheath was one of many “clumsy” mistakes he made for sure. Given it was found with the two girls I guess he took it off the knife there, the first victims. Then, did he hear the delivery driver arrive and “panic” and so it wasn’t at the forefront of his mind. It got left. He went to silence X as she was near the exit point for him, and found she had E there. He stabbed them and was spooked and high on adrenaline and left. Did he only go in there for one girl and ended up doing four victims? I don’t think he knew that Dylan had seen him. That would explain for weeks and weeks the narrative was that Dylan and Bethany were asleep. They had to say that so that they were safe.

 

[Dorothy-redshoes]

I feel sick. Poor Dylan came face to face with him her survivor guilt is going to be immense! Although I'm still slightly confused as to why he walked past her and didn't attack and why she didn't call anyone there and then or as soon as he left.
But it does sound like solid dna evidence against him and solid phone and cctv data!

 

[Katleesi]

It’s so sad how people are still blaming Dylan for not calling the police when she saw him. No wonder she got a lawyer a few weeks back. That poor girl.

 

[e.l.lofthouse]

New to commenting on this, but should we not leave the threats as just The Moscow/ Idaho murders... And whatever number it is? I feel a bit bad coming up with named for the thread titles, given the reason for the threads

New to commenting on this, but should we not leave the threats as just The Moscow/ Idaho murders... And whatever number it is? I feel a bit bad coming up with named for the thread titles, given the reason for the threads

I also meant threads

 

[candyland_]

I had a stalker in 2019 and it all started just because we did our food shop at the same time. Anything can trigger the wrong person.

 

[Naataaliiee]

Mindblown as to how many people on (mainly) TikTok are focusing on how no one called 911 until nearly midday. It’s not like D & B would’ve been up from 6am to begin their day - they didn’t go to sleep til around 4am (as students do after a night out) so getting up around 11/12 is totally normal. People are acting like they were up and living in the crime scene for hours before making a decision to call police!

 

[Katleesi]

Anyone else sick of opening their tiktok to some ignorant bellend making a video like “pov you only slept 2 hours last night because you thought bryan kohberger was in your house” literally everyone trying to get views and profit from this case it’s so sick.

 

[Katleesi]

Dylan could have text Bethany with what she saw/heard and probably told her to stay in her room (I think Bethany was asleep for what was going on anyway by the sounds of it) and I imagine Dylan was scared so maybe they had a house group chat and were getting no replies from the other roommates - maybe they decided to stay in their rooms until they thought they definitely no longer heard anything and felt safe to come out together.

I can’t believe how much people are going after Dylan on tiktok and stuff - literally brutal. Saying she could have saved her friends? Well not really he came in and did everything in 20 mins. Or could have got the suspect sooner? They were on to him pretty quickly anyway but still have to build a case.

Honestly I just feel really sorry for the roommates atm. Imagine being trashed online for weeks with people saying you were involved then an arrest is made and now you’re being trashed for being a victim. People are vile.

 

[candyland_]

I lock my door the second I get home. You just don’t know who will try the handle.

 

[countrybumpkin92]

I can’t believe how harsh the media is being to Dylan! I really can understand why she didn’t call the police, bit of a weird story but when I was younger I was living in Shepherds Bush and I was woken up at around 3am by a commotion outside my flat window. When I peered out the curtain I saw a group of people crowded around and heard one of them saying something like ‘you’ve done it, we have to move the body’. I was really scared, confused and dazed and to be honest I fell back asleep and when I woke up I genuinely believed I’d imagined the whole thing. I’ve always had really vivid dreams and where my flat was located was really noisy (one side overlooked the green and the other the back of Westfield where the incident took place). It wasn’t till about 3 weeks later that i found out something had actually happened.

I can 100% imagine that in a party house, where there a lots of people coming and going and you are used a lot of noise (and probably drunk) you would feel frozen and scared, convince yourself it was nothing and go back to sleep. No one would ever expect four murders to have just taken place, it’s easy to criticise when you have the benefit of hindsight. Feel so bad for her!

 

[MarinaScorpio]

To those wondering how he was so sloppy when he committed the crime, considering his background in criminology, it's important to mention that generally the study of Criminal justice/Criminology examines the behaviours/mind of a criminal, not the forensic science in regards to evidence collection, etc. Criminal justice is not the same as forensic science. So it's not very surprising that he left so much evidence.

 

[JSquared]

What amazes me is the fact he KNEW he was seen by a witness after the crimes and he still went to classes and acted normal and went back to the scene after.
I mean, that's fucked up and scary!

Nothing states that he saw her though, just that she saw him from her door. It could have barely been open if she was just peeking out so he didn’t notice?
If he knows he has been seen and he’s still claiming innocence… god knows what is passing through his head

 

[Boogs]

thank you I did not follow this early on. I must say BK really knew exactly where to attack to kill them instantly. So morbid. Imagine his Dad at this point after having driven all that way with him in the car and being clueless. Just sound like an average family and then this.

I think he planned what he thought was the perfect murder but his arrogance made him sloppy. I don’t think he thought he would become a suspect so wasn’t as careful as he should have been.

I feel so sorry for his family. I keep thinking of his Dad proudly saying that his son was doing a PHD.

 

[Noodle99]

What a heartbreaking read that was, when they mention the CCTV picking up a wimper a thud and the dog barking made me feel sick to my stomach. The fact that they were probably all awake makes it so much more horrific
I think a lot more will come out at Trial as to why she didn't call the police sooner and no doubt the 911 call will be played in court. They do often say that killers go back to the scene of the crime by my god he is one sick bastard

 

[Boogs]

I grew up in a household with a lot of trauma and violence, as a result I am hyper vigilant and tend to notice minor things. I live alone and if I hear a noise in the night I don’t get up. I lie there as still as possible listening so I can process what is happening and work out if I need to take action. If I was in a house like that where people regularly came and went I would probably convince myself that it was nothing but lock my door trying to dispel my fear. The utter silence in the house afterward must have been deafening. I’m sure she tried to convince herself it was just because everyone else was asleep.

 

[Boogs]

Was it him saying it’s ok I’m going to help? That made my blood go cold. 4 innocent lives extinguished in such a short space of time

Even if they were awake they were at home in bed and relaxed. It wouldn’t have been hard for him to come in and quickly incapacitate them with that weapon. I think I’d been hoping that they were asleep so they didn’t know what was happening and it was quick.

My heart breaks for poor Dylan. We often act in irrational ways in times of stress/trauma. She’s going to need some serious therapeutic intervention to get through this.

The police played this well. It may have looked to the public (and most importantly him) that they didn’t have a clue but they were clearly onto him from an early stage.

I’m pretty sure that the guy on Reddit who people thought was him said something about the sheath being left behind. I think the account is gone now but that would definitely suggest it was him or someone with insider knowledge who was posting.

 

[Ittybittytittyclub]

It’s been confirmed the FBI orchestrated the 2 traffic stops to try and obtain video footage of his hands and arms. Presumably to try see any injuries or marks. He is now back in Idaho so potentially in court today. I’m wondering how much of the documents will be released due to the court order the judge put in place

 

[Veronicacorningstone]

Dylan saw him and he walked right past her?!