The Ingham Family #332 So brown to earth, no holes barred, we only need one debit card!

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Isabelle, Esme & Isla have a limited understanding and grasp of reading, writing & arithmetic, but for all three of them, it seriously needs improvement, however, IMO I'm pretty sure the youngest three will be semi illiterate, they'll know colours, and how to count to 20, but you need more than that in life!!
 
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For anyone who has watched the Sarah says video on home schooling education. She mentions at around the 25 minute mark a study by a teacher into how much learning children actually do in a day, she kept saying 47 minutes but it sounds a lot like she is referring to this "study"


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Lots of groups... That none of the children attend.

Also playing with children at the park or on holiday is nice when your child is 3 /4. But it's in no way comparable to the strong friendship children build with their school friends. The experiences they share together, like school trips, games in the playground, birthday parties school plays and so on, help to form long lasting friendships, and also allow them to deal with a world away from their immediate family (parents / siblings etc)

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I know some parents with chidren who have formed close friendships. Probably with going to the same groups all the time, or forest school. But then that's no different to how friendships are formed in school, through familiarity. I'll be honest and from my experience I find home ed kids lack social skills. A lot of them are stuck to their parents side and won't even speak. In four years my daughter has made no friends whatsoever. And she's really outgoing. Children can't form friendships with the odd trip to the park. She talks so much crap
 
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For anyone who has watched the Sarah says video on home schooling education. She mentions at around the 25 minute mark a study by a teacher into how much learning children actually do in a day, she kept saying 47 minutes but it sounds a lot like she is referring to this "study"


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I remember reading that ages ago and thinking what bollocks it is. So children don’t learn anything at playtime or when they are tidying up? It’s all just wasted time? Rightio.

And lazy, that’s still 51 minutes a day more than your kids have of concentrated learning time (plus 3 of your children would be in secondary school where they’d have a couple of hours a night homework on top of the school day).
 
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Lockdown wasn’t proper home education. It was a nation of parents stuck at home trying their best to keep our kids education afloat. And I’ll tell you something, there is NO way I could be a teacher. The admiration I gained for teachers during that time rose ten fold. I don’t know about Sarah’s kids schools but my kids get a solid get a solid learning day with very little trips to Primark etc during their “school day” 😏

I also completely admire parents who can home educate their children (properly not like the Inghams) as I would be rubbish at it. And I am also aware the school system isn’t for everyone. But, if it wasn’t for my education I wouldn’t be in the job I’m in now and neither would my Son who’s done well for himself. So it worked for me and works for my kids. But come on those kids will never amount to anything with SARAH teaching them. And sending my kids to school saves me having a nervous breakdown teaching them 😂
 

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My god... this home schooling video is a masterclass in how to circumvent the education system. She makes zero reference to what SHE is doing as a home educator. She's just telling people how to remove their children from school without kickback from the LEA. The bullshit she spouts about milestones is just about as stupid and uneducated as it gets. They are a benchmark of appropriate development both physically and cognitively. Its not labelling, its helping troubleshoot for any underlying issues a child might have and need support with. Lazy really just can't deal with anything she perceives as questioning her abilities as a mother. Most of the video was her basically saying her kids struggle but how it's everyone else's fault for observing it. If she spent as much time educating her kids as she does responding to other people's options they'd excel. Instead she spent the entire video coming across as angry that anyone who acknowledged her children's educational weaknesses.
 
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I'm the same age as Sarah, and my school was not far from Sarah's. We had a prom at the end of year 11 and year 13. No they weren't as big a thing as they are now, dress code was more general going out clothes so there was no pressure to buy new and there was a meal and a disco. I didn't go to either because I didn't want to, but that was my choice so I've never felt I missed out. Maybe Isabelle wouldn't have wanted to go, but what about Esme? She really wouldn't want to shop for it, film tik toks of getting ready with friends if she had some?

All they have done is take away any options for the children. No one has to have qualifications but it's a lot easier to get it out of the way and then not really need it than realise in their 20s that they really do and have to spend time working at it or proving they have the relevant skills without it - which they don't. No one has to go to prom, or go out with friends, or attend extra curricular activities but it's better to have that choice and maybe try some things before deciding it's not for them.

At school I was very academic and hated all the subjects like PE, Drama, Music, Art. I would have happily done without them and spent all my time doing Maths. However, I know for sure I don't like them because I tried. I'm absolutely useless at them, but I had the opportunity which led to me being sure that wasn't the path for me so I didn't choose to take them any longer than I had to. They do none of that, other than some craft time for Jace and Mila which is usually done at home with toddlers anyway.
 
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Lockdown wasn’t proper home education. It was a nation of parents stuck at home trying their best to keep our kids education afloat.
A lot of children; especially those of primary school age, really enjoyed home educaion during lockdown because it was such a novelty. Lots of time chatting on teams, gaming with friends, making rainbows and spending the day doing what they wanted.

They enjoyed the novelty of the situation, and a lot of it had nothing to do with education.
 
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Few comments and Sarah (or Chris) responses.

I love to see she’s claimed herself as qualified to give advice 🤣 The girls haven’t progressed from where they were when they were removed! People claiming Izzy is still a child as well 🙄 It’s laughable that she can claim to be so invested in her children’s education. She vlogs herself shopping for hours most days, trips away to theme parks etc, kids having a holiday a week after the official half term & everything else they share - even with the vlog condensed to half an hour it’s obvious how little goes on in that household.

Jace does also have some delayed areas of development, she won’t admit it because it would mean professional involvement and appointments but it’s clear as day he’s got speech developmental delays and is also struggling to grasp learning. She’s in attack mode because she knows everyone expressing concern about Jace is spot on. This is why she spouts the crap about kids being different abilities etc.

I have had a couple of mine through speech therapy, one was more developed in their speech than Jace but still required some sessions so not a chance that he’d pass if he was to have a SALT assessment without further intervention. He’d have been picked up 2 years ago now if he was allowed to attend nursery. You can barely understand a word he says and unfortunately Mila is starting to show similar now with her speech communication. This is what happens when you don’t allow your children to socialise and baby talk to them. The other children & adults in the house struggle as well I’m sorry to say.

Tattlers have hit it on the nose, all she’s done is share factual information she’s gained from groups, nothing more. No insight into what her kids actually do or anything else.
 

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Isabelle, Esme & Isla have a limited understanding and grasp of reading, writing & arithmetic, but for all three of them, it seriously needs improvement, however, IMO I'm pretty sure the youngest three will be semi illiterate, they'll know colours, and how to count to 20, but you need more than that in life!!
Sarah will be good until they move on from picture books 👀
 
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I'm the same age as Sarah, and my school was not far from Sarah's. We had a prom at the end of year 11 and year 13. No they weren't as big a thing as they are now, dress code was more general going out clothes so there was no pressure to buy new and there was a meal and a disco. I didn't go to either because I didn't want to, but that was my choice so I've never felt I missed out. Maybe Isabelle wouldn't have wanted to go, but what about Esme? She really wouldn't want to shop for it, film tik toks of getting ready with friends if she had some?

All they have done is take away any options for the children. No one has to have qualifications but it's a lot easier to get it out of the way and then not really need it than realise in their 20s that they really do and have to spend time working at it or proving they have the relevant skills without it - which they don't. No one has to go to prom, or go out with friends, or attend extra curricular activities but it's better to have that choice and maybe try some things before deciding it's not for them.

At school I was very academic and hated all the subjects like PE, Drama, Music, Art. I would have happily done without them and spent all my time doing Maths. However, I know for sure I don't like them because I tried. I'm absolutely useless at them, but I had the opportunity which led to me being sure that wasn't the path for me so I didn't choose to take them any longer than I had to. They do none of that, other than some craft time for Jace and Mila which is usually done at home with toddlers anyway.
Totally agree with you. I didn’t do my degree til I was 22 but had all the relevant GCSEs to get onto the course, but there were people on my course who were in their 30s/40s/50s who had to retake their English or maths GCSE’s to get onto it. So even if the mingham kids aren’t interested in their qualifications now and don’t see them as necessary that could all change as they get older and want to take a different path in life if they’re ever allowed to leave the cult 🙄 I can’t see Isla wanting a career in social media in a few years time. They’re gonna be up shits creek without a paddle because they can’t even manage basic spelling and grammar, their speech is limited to “cute” and things that don’t even make sense like “very lot”. Clearly “home educating” isn’t working for them when the teenagers and “adult” can’t even grasp the basics of the English language
 
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Lots of groups... That none of the children attend.

Also playing with children at the park or on holiday is nice when your child is 3 /4. But it's in no way comparable to the strong friendship children build with their school friends. The experiences they share together, like school trips, games in the playground, birthday parties school plays and so on, help to form long lasting friendships, and also allow them to deal with a world away from their immediate family (parents / siblings etc)

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Look for a great many kids school is not at all as you describe. They don't have lots of friends, or they do have lots of friends but their friend group is made up of the kids who are different and easy to pick on. The Goth kids or the Geek kids or the kids whose mum & dad can't afford the clothes & toys that are all the rage. So they don't see school as a playground of wonderful sunshine & roses where the happiness never ends. Many are bullied so badly they see it as a place of torture & will do anything to avoid going there.

Home education is some part of a solution for kids like that. It's also a great pick for kids with high functioning autism. Now those kids will focus on their fascination with an energy & enthusiasm which staggers others. So if they love science or art or music they will excel at that subject. Be far in advance of their peers in all aspects of it. I've seen some of those kids who can stump their teachers in Maths or computer science.

But they have no interest in other subjects so they perform very badly in those. There is conflict with the school about assignments and missing classes. They'll be prevented from having school trips until they complete this work and they will never complete that work. They're bored by the syllabus in their subject of excellence because they're ready to learn much more deeply and as a result they drop out of school very early and end up drifting. All that potential lost to them and to the world. They become depressed & angry because they've been cheated of achieving great things simply due to the fact that they don't learn in the ways that school rewards kids for learning. Home education does.
 
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Trolls diagnosing Jace for being handsy...the irony that kid is using those very hands to fiddle with his sisters ears! There's something happening somewhere...
 
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@Tilly Kister

I appreciate your reply, but you seem to be talking about children of secondary school age, which I agree is an altogether different experience. The comment I posted mentioned young children, which is why I posted saying the park and playing with children on holiday is nothing like the friendships children make at school. Of course there are always going to be children who don't enjoy school and struggle to find friends, but at least school gives them the chance to find these friendships and socialise with others. Where as the younger Ingham children have a few random children in the playground and a brief encounters on holiday.
 
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Why does she always say about picking on a five year old child? People are obviously concerned about him because he is the product of their tit parenting. It's clear to anyone that no adequate education is going on in that house and Lazy is defensive because she knows that too, she can hardly string a sentence together so she needs educating as much as the chuldrun.

As others have said children need options.
If you read interviews with famous people who always knew they wanted to get into acting/music/sport, they say their parents always encouraged them to get an education to fall back on and give them options.

It might not be too bad for the older three, they could fill in the gaps in their education/get any qualifications they want by doing adult education. The little three will have not learned the absolute basics let alone anything else, unless there is something proper put in place for them very soon.
 
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She really cannot handle criticism, and if your opinion is different to hers, you’re wrong, she’s right. She immediately bites back at any comment that disagrees! Those kids have no hope or future.
 
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