The Dis Unplugged #6 Stay out of the damn employees part 2 The demise of Pete Werner

[Charm]

All that gambling now suddenly makes 886,000 reasons of sense….

God! To think that a person would borrow that much money just to, essentially, turn around and give it away. I know that it's a real addiction, and not at all uncommon, but the cheapskate in me is still mindblown by it. Spending money you dont have on a lifestyle you can't afford is bad enough, but if he gambled even a portion of that away... people can't reclaim that.
Hopefully he can find the right mental health provider, clearly he's destructive to himself and others.
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In relation to cruising I give credit to a poster on the disboards who called out other people who felt there was no way for other DIS employees to suspect Pete was up to nefarious activities whether it be on cruise ships or hotel stays. In essence it was suggested it would not be unusual for a small company and it’s owner to want people to share rooms and keep costs down so if Pete wanted to share a room with (insert the young male name here) he was doing it to manage expenses.

This poster said Pete has lived his life wanting to flaunt his wealth and privilege. He would NEVER want to share a room unless there was something in it for him. He will only cruise concierge because that’s what he feels he is entitled to and will brag about. He may shove other employees in interior rooms but king Pete will always want and expect the best, costs be damned. Not saying Craig and the others knew about the SA but for this head in the sand approach some of the guys are conveying it’s hard to believe. Legal speak aside Did they really think Pete wanted to share his concierge room with others to keep costs down?

Not looking to place blame, but I wonder who was responsible for managing the financial side of the business. They had to have had an accountant, right? There were too many employees to not have an accountant. Dreams is listed on the AMEX lawsuit, so it was a company card. The whole operation seems fishy now.

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[Ahoyhoy]

Not looking to place blame, but I wonder who was responsible for managing the financial side of the business. They had to have had an accountant, right? There were too many employees to not have an accountant. Dreams is listed on the AMEX lawsuit, so it was a company card. The whole operation seems fishy now.

Tbf, there are a lot of things going on within and around the company that are extremely abnormal, includnig the hiring practices, the resposnes to the allegations, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if they have some "accountant" who's just a family friend with basic qualifications that ensures payroll processes but doesn't actually account for company spending.

The life of these threads just reveals how much of a mess Dreams is from a business standpoint, but this isn't that strange. If you were to look at all small businesses in America (that have <100 employees), you'll probably find similarly horrendous practices in play.

 

[The Mando]

Sean is sex a requirement with an escort or were you just paid friend for people?

It depends, it really just has to be worked out beforehand and stuck to. And everyone operates differently in what services they offer.

It’s like comparing to a restaurant. In-N-Out only serves burgers, fries and shakes whereas Cheesecake Factory might as well just list the foods they can’t make cause it would be a shorter list.

 

[Charm]

Tbf, there are a lot of things going on within and around the company that are extremely abnormal, includnig the hiring practices, the resposnes to the allegations, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if they have some "accountant" who's just a family friend with basic qualifications that ensures payroll processes but doesn't actually account for company spending.

The life of these threads just reveals how much of a mess Dreams is from a business standpoint, but this isn't that strange. If you were to look at all small businesses in America (that have <100 employees), you'll probably find similarly horrendous practices in play.

True. Clearly nobody could stop him from hiring, firing, or ostracizing people at whim. And, from what it sounds like, the travel agents dont even offer good service. Who even needs a travel agent in this day and age? Not to mention all of the other side hussles that were brought on along the way. Were they all (Pete, John, and Kevin) just throwing things out and seeing what sticks? I don't think that John and Kevin are treating people negatively, but something is amiss with this business.

 

[DisWow]

True. Clearly nobody could stop him from hiring, firing, or ostracizing people at whim. And, from what it sounds like, the travel agents dont even offer good service. Who even needs a travel agent in this day and age? Not to mention all of the other side hussles that were brought on along the way. Were they all (Pete, John, and Kevin) just throwing things out and seeing what sticks? I don't think that John and Kevin are treating people negatively, but something is amiss with this business.

Folks act like this isn’t how startups and small businesses are run. I worked for a video production outfit, there was no HR, people were hired/fired by the leadership of the company (and we all worked in one office space). Accounting and such was all outsourced. We had maybe 8-12 employees at the time.

 

[Ahoyhoy]

True. Clearly nobody could stop him from hiring, firing, or ostracizing people at whim. And, from what it sounds like, the travel agents dont even offer good service. Who even needs a travel agent in this day and age? Not to mention all of the other side hussles that were brought on along the way. Were they all (Pete, John, and Kevin) just throwing things out and seeing what sticks? I don't think that John and Kevin are treating people negatively, but something is amiss with this business.

I totally agree. "Business genius" is the most overrated thing in the world, sometimes the biggest idiots get a good idea and make millions while brilliant and shrewd businessmen never have an idea that gets off the ground.

Abotu John and Kevin's treatment of people: both seem like nice people and I don't doubt they're respectful to their employees (MUCH moreso than Pete). I will caution with a personal story: I once worked in a restaurant run by a very kind, traditional southern gentleman. He was so warm that most of the staff called him "grandpa." Behind closed doors, though, his true colors shown through: he was nepotistic, always hiring his grand daughter and her friends, and firing people that didn't fit into their clique. He had a penchant for hirinig attractive young women and firing less attractive or male employees to make room for them. People that did everything right and drove revenue for the restuarant were given worse shifts and sections to placate his girls. If you somehow slipped through the cracks and were successful anyway (like I was), he would orchestrate scenarios to try and get you fired. One of the proudest moments of my life was avoiding one of these traps and proving him wrong so he couldn't jsutify firing me, just so I could call him the next morning and quit lmao.

Point is, we really don't know John or Kevin. They could definitely be kind and gentle people, but they could also be putting up a front. It's clear Dreams isn't well-managed given Sean's stories and the long leash they gave Pete.

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[dizmal]

In relation to cruising I give credit to a poster on the disboards who called out other people who felt there was no way for other DIS employees to suspect Pete was up to nefarious activities whether it be on cruise ships or hotel stays. In essence it was suggested it would not be unusual for a small company and it’s owner to want people to share rooms and keep costs down so if Pete wanted to share a room with (insert the young male name here) he was doing it to manage expenses.

This poster said Pete has lived his life wanting to flaunt his wealth and privilege. He would NEVER want to share a room unless there was something in it for him. He will only cruise concierge because that’s what he feels he is entitled to and will brag about. He may shove other employees in interior rooms but king Pete will always want and expect the best, costs be damned. Not saying Craig and the others knew about the SA but for this head in the sand approach some of the guys are conveying it’s hard to believe. Legal speak aside Did they really think Pete wanted to share his concierge room with others to keep costs down?

They already said they thought he was in consensual relationships. It's a reach to think an employee would feel its their place to prod further into that if that is the impression they've been given by the parties involved -- especially in a family-owned business like The Dis/Dreams Unlimited. You can't compare it to your typical corporate environment.

Dustin has been clear that they didn't know and Shaun has said he kept a distance from the others.

I think we should give this aspect of it a rest.

 

[Rufio'sGhost]

Nah, I love drama and watching the world burn. I want her there. She's probably one of those #BelieveAllWomen and #AllLivesMatter and #SilenceIsCompliance people. But now that it threatens her pocketbook, she's going to try and deflect. Nothing warms my heart like watching hypocrites get their comeuppance.

I think you forgot to mention Ryno and Craig in this comment.

 

[Charm]

Folks act like this isn’t how startups and small businesses are run. I worked for a video production outfit, there was no HR, people were hired/fired by the leadership of the company (and we all worked in one office space). Accounting and such was all outsourced. We had maybe 8-12 employees at the time.

I hear ya. My husband and I are both self employed. It's just that I'm just now realizing that Pete was trying to take a piece of everybody's pie. LOL no pun intended. Travel agency, YouTube, patreon, real estate, candles, dvc... I'm sure I'm forgetting something. They have so many subcategories on their YouTube channel that you can't even keep up with them all. A business owner usually has enough work with their one business model without trying to include every bleeping idea that they notice other people doing.
Are these guys just grifters who want to travel for free off of perks, and money, they can swindle out of people?

 

[Ahoyhoy]

I hear ya. My husband and I are both self employed. It's just that I'm just now realizing that Pete was trying to take a piece of everybody's pie. LOL no pun intended. Travel agency, YouTube, patreon, real estate, candles, dvc... I'm sure I'm forgetting something. They have so many subcategories on their YouTube channel that you can't even keep up with them all. A business owner usually has enough work with their one business model without trying to include every bleeping idea that they notice other people doing.
Are these guys just grifters who want to travel for free off of perks, and money, they can swindle out of people?

In fairness to Pete, I would do the EXACT same thing in his position. Want to start a real estate business where you don't sell the houses? Done. Want to create a YouTube channel where you only appear when you want to? Done. Want to run a travel business where you don't actually handle clients? Done. Want to use a company card to go on lavish vacations without spending a dime of your personal earning under the guise of a "business expense"? Done and done.

Point is, strike gold with an idea, and live off the spoils. I don't fault Pete for being successful and doing everything he can to earn as much as he can, while he can. I DO fault Pete for using his spoils to engage in narcissistic and predatory behavior.

 

[Rufio'sGhost]

Does anyone have a screenshot of Dustin posting on the boards?

 

[Charm]

In fairness to Pete, I would do the EXACT same thing in his position. Want to start a real estate business where you don't sell the houses? Done. Want to create a YouTube channel where you only appear when you want to? Done. Want to run a travel business where you don't actually handle clients? Done. Want to use a company card to go on lavish vacations without spending a dime of your personal earning under the guise of a "business expense"? Done and done.

Point is, strike gold with an idea, and live off the spoils. I don't fault Pete for being successful and doing everything he can to earn as much as he can, while he can. I DO fault Pete for using his spoils to engage in narcissistic and predatory behavior.

I guess. LOL I wouldn't want to start something that I couldn't do by myself. There are too many risks involved when you dont care, and dont know. Not to mention pride, reputation, and stability. I couldn't do it.

 

[pembertonheights]

Purely specula

Ryno needs to understand that Tattle grew from the necessity of free speech. I’m glad I found it as I couldn’t stand the chat echo chambers. The mods deleting honest questions. It was great to find like-minded folks.

Thank goodness Tattle exists as it exposed Mr. Scumbag.

100% this. As I've said before. I like Ryno and wish him the best but he as all people in the public eye is subject to criticism. Are there now, and in the past. people that have personal vendettas? clearly but most people here have just offered criticism and jokes that are admittedly, a little mean spirited. As you said, most people can't offer even the most benign criticisms without getting dogpiled on the platforms of origin. His statement about "not watching" was weird because quite a few people here still liked the content. Some do "hate" watch but hey, that's engagement.

I get why he might not like the site, I know if I was in his (or any vloggers shoes) I'd shrug it off and tell people to stop telling me about it (I'll never get why stans have to constantly tell the person about "this mean site" like they're the first ones to have that idea).

The one criticism I'll give him from that video is him accusing people on this site of shitting on people while inferring he surrounds himself with positivity. It's weird because he shits on things all the time on shows and Twitter. I don't have a problem with that, he doesn't like certain things and it's okay to vent when you're frustrated something didn't work out, but when you see others do it try to have the self awareness that you are no better. Seek out positivity but don't "high road" people.

 

[Thunderbirdtoo]

Does anyone have a screenshot of Dustin posting on the boards?

I don't know if this will work but here goes:

 

[Maleficent50]

Purely specula


100% this. As I've said before. I like Ryno and wish him the best but he as all people in the public eye is subject to criticism. Are there now, and in the past. people that have personal vendettas? clearly but most people here have just offered criticism and jokes that are admittedly, a little mean spirited. As you said, most people can't offer even the most benign criticisms without getting dogpiled on the platforms of origin. His statement about "not watching" was weird because quite a few people here still liked the content. Some do "hate" watch but hey, that's engagement.

I get why he might not like the site, I know if I was in his (or any vloggers shoes) I'd shrug it off and tell people to stop telling me about it (I'll never get why stans have to constantly tell the person about "this mean site" like they're the first ones to have that idea).

The one criticism I'll give him from that video is him accusing people on this site of shitting on people while inferring he surrounds himself with positivity. It's weird because he shits on things all the time on shows and Twitter. I don't have a problem with that, he doesn't like certain things and it's okay to vent when you're frustrated something didn't work out, but when you see others do it try to have the self awareness that you are no better. Seek out positivity but don't "high road" people.

I see it like this …. He has a platform to say this site is tit. That’s his right to do so. So therefore we have the right here to say these influencer/vlogger sites are tit. What’s the difference?

 

[Happiest]

A bit off topic for a minute but ..,
Mando, you are sitting on a hot best seller book. The story you could tell would fly off the shelves even in pre-sale, especially if you could tie it to Disney parks and cruises or theme parks in general. Escorts in theme parks? Everyone wants those details! Cruise ships? What happens? What do people pay? Who knew? Walking through the parks now can you ever spot an escort? All great book material.

Sorry for the side track but this book needs to happen!

 

[Cinnamon1]

A bit off topic for a minute but ..,
Mando, you are sitting on a hot best seller book. The story you could tell would fly off the shelves even in pre-sale, especially if you could tie it to Disney parks and cruises or theme parks in general. Escorts in theme parks? Everyone wants those details! Cruise ships? What happens? What do people pay? Who knew? Walking through the parks now can you ever spot an escort? All great book material.

Sorry for the side track but this book needs to happen!

Where can I pre-order this book already? These stories are really interesting!

 

[DISbored]

A bit off topic for a minute but ..,
Mando, you are sitting on a hot best seller book. The story you could tell would fly off the shelves even in pre-sale, especially if you could tie it to Disney parks and cruises or theme parks in general. Escorts in theme parks? Everyone wants those details! Cruise ships? What happens? What do people pay? Who knew? Walking through the parks now can you ever spot an escort? All great book material.

Sorry for the side track but this book needs to happen!

I’d buy it!

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[Murray9000]

I’d buy it!

Are we all good with DIS Unplugged 7: Off the Rails!

It's always been the suggestion with the most likes.

 

[The Mando]

A bit off topic for a minute but ..,
Mando, you are sitting on a hot best seller book. The story you could tell would fly off the shelves even in pre-sale, especially if you could tie it to Disney parks and cruises or theme parks in general. Escorts in theme parks? Everyone wants those details! Cruise ships? What happens? What do people pay? Who knew? Walking through the parks now can you ever spot an escort? All great book material.

Sorry for the side track but this book needs to happen!

Lol my friends tell me this all the time.

I have so many wild stories. It’s unbelievable the stuff that happens but people always say they love them. But I’d need like a ghost writer that I could just tell things too cause I am not a good proof reader haha.

I’ve calmed as I’m getting older but I’ve never been the classiest person but even before all that happened I was getting in fights with possums and funny family drama and stuff. It’d be a long book lol