Do you really think that? Nic & MP2 are probably pretty happy they don't have to pay as much as in the old days, when she was leaning on them for her comfort.
Do you really think that? Nic & MP2 are probably pretty happy they don't have to pay as much as in the old days, when she was leaning on them for her comfort.Maybe each person now get a %.
It was on booking.com and is rather conveniently located if you're traveling to the south of France, for an overnight stay, especially for people coming from the UK.Veering off on a tangent, I've been wondering who exactly booked in for B&B at Lalande before the "exposure " (aka free advertising) the place received via ETTCDIY. Lalande's location - House in the Middle of Nowhere - doesn't seem the sort of place one would chose for a night of two away unless you had a specific reason to be in the area.
Thundering applauseNot quite a thread summary. However in anticipation of new members I've tried.
For those new to this thread, particularly if directed by recent commentary on youtube; welcome. I encourage you to start at thread #1. This is a discussion including critiques of the Chateau Diaries, and under sufferance, The Pethericks. If you are a superfan this is not the site for you. We do not abuse if we disagree. This is not fb or youtube. Tattle.life is a free exchange you cannot moderate others' views. We say " I disagree" or present an alternative view. Most info is from SJ vlogs, insta, facebook or from basic searches of public info. Many on here are incredibley witty. Origns are we enjoyed original vlogs, interesting reno talk, travels, etc. Then the money grab started which raised a lot of concerns.
In recent topical threads we have discussed:
1. Concern re how SJ presents her personal financial situation and how fans don't connect the dots. SJ owns flat in London and 50% Chateau. IJ owns ZA property, UK property and presumabley a % of her own mother's home in France.
2. COVID Christmas Diaries at the Chateau - it was evident more people were at the Chateau than the 16 for dinner. Discussions focused on who they were as they were seen in background of vlogs and on cleaning/cooking rosters. Concern increased when it was evident length of journey (would require a pit stop with potential risk) and 2 holding senior public roles in Netherlands and Belgium. No persons have been contacted making comments to them, nor their employers. Not sure how this is bullying.
3. Derek Jarvis paintings -- several present sexualised imagery. These are not openly shown but visible. SJ said her father let people have own interpretation - so I did, tongue in check on one painting. Some discussion of his possible imitation of other styles as he developed his own, and suitability of such imagery in front of a child/daughter.
4. SJ behaviour with volunteers. Concerns discussed. 1-2 posters stated their inside experience/views. These were discussed and debated at length with concerns raised about this in terms of ethics/moral if not legality (Workaway in France). List of boyfriends maintained so we can keep track.
5. Financial gain. Concerns re the lack of financial transparency, continued donations by the vulnerable, questions raised about the charitable foundation. As we are a global group, familiarity with french taxation and laws was supplemented by posters who knew/searched online. Can't ask polite questions as patreons or fb group as you get slammed. So discussed here.
6. SJ behaviour. There was a discussion on SJ's observed behaviour and whether it was ADHD, narcissism, hoarding, child like for a 45 year old, etc. Also relationship with her parents based on her commentary. This did get a bit weird. Discussed on relationship dynamics with ex boyfriends, whobshe mentions and does not, hence the boyfriend timeline.
7. The Pethericks. We avoid the Trotters as most find them boring or distasteful in open money grab and number of vlogs. Once they were up, through a few simple searches of social media history, commenters raised concerns. Speculation on their motives and background. Concern re Gwen. MP2 basically supported with his creativity, depressive tendancies and potential; frustration at lack of action, rework on cottage, open begging in his vlogs. Failure to launch comes to mind.
8. Persons of disrepute who & why. Brenda's bullying online of persons including a patreon asking simple questions. Her inserting herself in key moments like Forest Gump, and general mis representations exposed, including basic lies like the view from her window. She advertised Tattle to 10000 fb fans and threatened us. So a few legal truths were published on Tattle. Jill Scott has a white collar taxation criminal record. Multiple times our comments have expressed frustration and amazement at who SJ associates her brand with and could she please get some experts in, rather than amateurs.
Of all people in LaLa universe Nic, MP and Ruthy are often discussed as professionals who would have some idea of what to do, so we wonder what is going on in her head. Oli, as a marketing communications person and potential co- vlogger, would he not speak with her. Watch SJ burn him for BJJ on launching Chateau tours across Europe.
9. La La Land Universe. Commentary on other "characters" (as SJ calks them in vlog 100) is a critique on their behaviour in vlogs, motivations for being there, work contributions, etc. Especially when they start own money making/begging social media presence. BJJ's presence with no skills raises the thought SJ needs a sidekick (used to be MP). Look I can't even be bothered writing about him, read the threads.
10. Restoration work not prioritised. Lack of structural, heating, the basics considered as people obviously are freezing in an old hunting lodge/ruin. It was never a grand Chateau. 15 year ownership yet on her vlogs SJ shows rooms she hasn't gone into (vlog 36) or enters very infrequently or keeps tidy (attic, laundry room, old dairy room, hallways).
Not quite a thread summary. However in anticipation of new members I've tried.
For those new to this thread, particularly if directed by recent commentary on youtube; welcome. I encourage you to start at thread #1. This is a discussion including critiques of the Chateau Diaries, and under sufferance, The Pethericks. If you are a superfan this is not the site for you. We do not abuse if we disagree. We say " I disagree" or present an alternative view. Most info is from SJ vlogs, insta, facebook or from basic searches of public info. Many on here are incredibley witty. Origns are we enjoyed original vlogs, interesting reno talk, travels, etc. Then the money grab started which raised a lot of concerns.
In recent topical threads we have discussed:
1. Concern re how SJ presents her personal financial situation and how fans don't connect the dots. SJ owns flat in London and 50% Chateau. IJ owns ZA property, UK property and presumabley a % of her own mother's home in France.
2. COVID Christmas at the Chateau - it was evident more people were at the Chateau than the 16 for dinner. Discussions focused on who they were as they were seen in background of vlogs and on cleaning/cooking rosters. Concern increased when it was evident length of journey (would require a pit stop with potential risk) and 2 holding senior public roles in Netherlands and Belgium. No persons have been contacted making comments to them, nor their employers. Not sure how this is bullying.
3. Derek Jarvis paintings -- several present sexualised imagery. These are not openly shown but visible. SJ said her father let people have own interpretation - so I did, tongue in check on one painting. Some discussion of his possible imitation of other styles as he developed his own, and suitability of such imagery in front of a child/daughter.
4. SJ behaviour with volunteers. Concerns discussed. 1-2 posters stated their inside experience/views. These were discussed and debated at length with concerns raised about this in terms of ethics/moral if not legality (Workaway in France). List of boyfriends maintained so we can keep track.
5. Financial gain. Concerns re the lack of financial transparency, continued donations by the vulnerable, questions raised about the charitable foundation. As we are a global group, familiarity with french taxation and laws was supplemented by posters who knew/searched online. Can't ask polite questions as patreons or fb group as you get slammed. So discussed here.
6. SJ behaviour. There was a discussion on SJ's observed behaviour and whether it was ADHD, narcissism, hoarding, child like for a 45 year old, etc. Also relationship with her parents based on her commentary. This did get a bit weird. Discussed on relationship dynamics with ex boyfriends, whobshe mentions and does not, hence the boyfriend timeline.
7. The Pethericks. We avoid the Trotters as most find them boring or distasteful in open money grab and number of vlogs. Once they were up, through a few simple searches of social media history, commenters raised concerns. Speculation on their motives and background. Concern re Gwen. MP2 basically supported with his creativity, depressive tendancies and potential; frustration at lack of action, rework on cottage, open begging in his vlogs. Failure to launch comes to mind.
8. Persons of disrepute who & why. Brenda's bullying online of persons including a patreon asking simple questions. Her inserting herself in key moments like Forest Gump, and general mis representations exposed, including basic lies like the view from her window. She advertised Tattle to 10000 fb fans and threatened us. So a few legal truths were published on Tattle. Jill Scott has a white collar taxation criminal record. Multiple times our comments have expressed frustration and amazement at who SJ associates her brand with and could she please get some experts in, rather than amateurs.
Of all people in LaLa universe Nic, MP and Ruthy are often discussed as professionals who would have some idea of what to do, so we wonder what is going on in her head. Oli, as a marketing communications person and potential co- vlogger, would he not speak with her. Watch SJ burn him for BJJ on launching Chateau tours across Europe.
9. La La Land Universe. Commentary on other "characters" (as SJ calks them in vlog 100) is a critique on their behaviour in vlogs, motivations for being there, work contributions, etc. Especially when they start own money making/begging social media presence. BJJ's presence with no skills raises the thought SJ needs a sidekick (used to be MP). Look I can't even be bothered writing about him, read the threads.
10. Restoration work not prioritised. Lack of structural, heating, the basics considered as people obviously are freezing in an old hunting lodge/ruin. It was never a grand Chateau. 15 year ownership yet on her vlogs SJ shows rooms she hasn't gone into (vlog 36) or enters very infrequently or keeps tidy (attic, laundry room, old dairy room, hallways).
Oooo interesting... thanks for the glossary . Always love a re-cap and it makes me laugh just reading thatyayyyyyyy tattlers
Happy to update there was a few other requests so I’ll go back and add all
my evening just had an eureka moment
Full signs on the trotters temper tantrum
New channel - chateau rescue just saw the new family with an all NEW female narrator
Can trotter hold onto anythingeven briefly
Seemed ok in Bordeaux on his vacation
Yes quite. Missing him for contributionWhere’s Heathcliffe in all this drama, he love a bit of Trotter Tribulations and now we have it in spades and not a nugget from him, perhaps he’s just absorbing it all and gathering his thoughts and constructing his musings on gardenpotageriedesigngate.
Exactly .... It always comes back to my original question at the start of these threads .... ‘why would anyone give anything to a woman who has SO MUCH ?’ ...... we still haven’t worked this out !Oh yes AND she currently has 50% of LaLaLande in addition to the London flat and all the future inheritances.
This woman is proper loaded.
Behind closed doorsThe problem I have with Derek Jarvis' painting is...while I'm most assuredly NOT a prude by any stretch of the imagination...his paintings, to me are what some call "soft porn". Yes, art is in the eye of the beholder but, to me at least, this art should not be displayed where any children or very moral, easily offended people can look at them at any time. Yes, she should be proud of them, they were done by her beloved father, but have a seperate "gallery" room where they can be displayed but with a warning on the door! They definitely don't lend anything to the atmosphere of a centuries old chateau.
Clara ! What amazing ‘Bricks & Mortar’ Info . Good grief .... the wealth of Stephanie and her direct family. Shocked to learn there is even MORE money there. Even if they have sold granny’s pad , there would be extra funds to be distributed. AND Mini apron had yet ANOTHER holiday home .... They kept that one quiet. it’s unbelievable.The house of her grandmother is in Bézier and since her passing probably now shared with the rest of Isabel's siblings, but that's my guess, no real knowledge. Isabel however also owns an apartment in Agde, close to Bézier, that they usually rent out through an agent. She and Percy would go there when her mother was still alive to spend some private days. No clue if they still hang onto it. SJ would pretend to have 'forgotten' all about this property, find keys in her desk and then make a casual remark about 'her apartment at the Mediterranean'.
Great suggestion, will take some time to create but with the recent advertising by the subjects of our affection themselves and the amount of new people reading, it might really help.
Not sure about granny's pad. I know she went to a home in her last years, so it might already have been sold.Clara ! What amazing ‘Bricks & Mortar’ Info . Good grief .... the wealth of Stephanie and her direct family. Shocked to learn there is even MORE money there. Even if they have sold granny’s pad , there would be extra funds to be distributed. AND Mini apron had yet ANOTHER holiday home .... They kept that one quiet. it’s unbelievable.
Huh, and here I was thinking all along, she got a flat the way many of us would: by working a job and paying for it. How naive I am! LOLAbout the two apartments.
Didn't she recieve one from her parents, they bought it with the money they were going to use for her to go to private school, but she wanted to go with her friends at the not-private school (Public school? or is public school something else in Britain). Which is the one she sold(?)
Then I think her father purchased another flat for her - don't know where I heard it, or if it is even true, but that's how it make sense in my head...
There's no harm in that! Just a lot of reading aheadHow naive I am
Fabulous work, well done.Not quite a thread summary. However in anticipation of new members I've tried.
For those new to this thread, particularly if directed by recent commentary on youtube; welcome. I encourage you to start at thread #1. This is a discussion including critiques of the Chateau Diaries, and under sufferance, The Pethericks. If you are a superfan this is not the site for you. We do not abuse if we disagree. This is not fb or youtube. Tattle.life is a free exchange you cannot moderate others' views. We say " I disagree" or present an alternative view. Most info is from SJ vlogs, insta, facebook or from basic searches of public info. Many on here are incredibley witty. Origns are we enjoyed original vlogs, interesting reno talk, travels, etc. Then the money grab started which raised a lot of concerns.
In recent topical threads we have discussed:
1. Concern re how SJ presents her personal financial situation and how fans don't connect the dots. SJ owns flat in London and 50% Chateau. IJ owns ZA property, UK property and presumabley a % of her own mother's home in France.
2. COVID Christmas Diaries at the Chateau - it was evident more people were at the Chateau than the 16 for dinner. Discussions focused on who they were as they were seen in background of vlogs and on cleaning/cooking rosters. Concern increased when it was evident length of journey (would require a pit stop with potential risk) and 2 holding senior public roles in Netherlands and Belgium. No persons have been contacted making comments to them, nor their employers. Not sure how this is bullying.
3. Derek Jarvis paintings -- several present sexualised imagery. These are not openly shown but visible. SJ said her father let people have own interpretation - so I did, tongue in check on one painting. Some discussion of his possible imitation of other styles as he developed his own, and suitability of such imagery in front of a child/daughter.
4. SJ behaviour with volunteers. Concerns discussed. 1-2 posters stated their inside experience/views. These were discussed and debated at length with concerns raised about this in terms of ethics/moral if not legality (Workaway in France). List of boyfriends maintained so we can keep track.
5. Financial gain. Concerns re the lack of financial transparency, continued donations by the vulnerable, questions raised about the charitable foundation. As we are a global group, familiarity with french taxation and laws was supplemented by posters who knew/searched online. Can't ask polite questions as patreons or fb group as you get slammed. So discussed here.
6. SJ behaviour. There was a discussion on SJ's observed behaviour and whether it was ADHD, narcissism, hoarding, child like for a 45 year old, etc. Also relationship with her parents based on her commentary. This did get a bit weird. Discussed on relationship dynamics with ex boyfriends, whobshe mentions and does not, hence the boyfriend timeline.
7. The Pethericks. We avoid the Trotters as most find them boring or distasteful in open money grab and number of vlogs. Once they were up, through a few simple searches of social media history, commenters raised concerns. Speculation on their motives and background. Concern re Gwen. MP2 basically supported with his creativity, depressive tendancies and potential; frustration at lack of action, rework on cottage, open begging in his vlogs. Failure to launch comes to mind.
8. Persons of disrepute who & why. Brenda's bullying online of persons including a patreon asking simple questions. Her inserting herself in key moments like Forest Gump, and general mis representations exposed, including basic lies like the view from her window. She advertised Tattle to 10000 fb fans and threatened us. So a few legal truths were published on Tattle. Jill Scott has a white collar taxation criminal record. Multiple times our comments have expressed frustration and amazement at who SJ associates her brand with and could she please get some experts in, rather than amateurs.
Of all people in LaLa universe Nic, MP and Ruthy are often discussed as professionals who would have some idea of what to do, so we wonder what is going on in her head. Oli, as a marketing communications person and potential co- vlogger, would he not speak with her. Watch SJ burn him for BJJ on launching Chateau tours across Europe.
9. La La Land Universe. Commentary on other "characters" (as SJ calks them in vlog 100) is a critique on their behaviour in vlogs, motivations for being there, work contributions, etc. Especially when they start own money making/begging social media presence. BJJ's presence with no skills raises the thought SJ needs a sidekick (used to be MP). Look I can't even be bothered writing about him, read the threads.
10. Restoration work not prioritised. Lack of structural, heating, the basics considered as people obviously are freezing in an old hunting lodge/ruin. It was never a grand Chateau. 15 year ownership yet on her vlogs SJ shows rooms she hasn't gone into (vlog 36) or enters very infrequently or keeps tidy (attic, laundry room, old dairy room, hallways).
Not quite a thread summary. However in anticipation of new members I've tried.
For those new to this thread, particularly if directed by recent commentary on youtube; welcome. I encourage you to start at thread #1. This is a discussion including critiques of the Chateau Diaries, and under sufferance, The Pethericks. If you are a superfan this is not the site for you. We do not abuse if we disagree. We say " I disagree" or present an alternative view. Most info is from SJ vlogs, insta, facebook or from basic searches of public info. Many on here are incredibley witty. Origns are we enjoyed original vlogs, interesting reno talk, travels, etc. Then the money grab started which raised a lot of concerns.
In recent topical threads we have discussed:
1. Concern re how SJ presents her personal financial situation and how fans don't connect the dots. SJ owns flat in London and 50% Chateau. IJ owns ZA property, UK property and presumabley a % of her own mother's home in France.
2. COVID Christmas at the Chateau - it was evident more people were at the Chateau than the 16 for dinner. Discussions focused on who they were as they were seen in background of vlogs and on cleaning/cooking rosters. Concern increased when it was evident length of journey (would require a pit stop with potential risk) and 2 holding senior public roles in Netherlands and Belgium. No persons have been contacted making comments to them, nor their employers. Not sure how this is bullying.
3. Derek Jarvis paintings -- several present sexualised imagery. These are not openly shown but visible. SJ said her father let people have own interpretation - so I did, tongue in check on one painting. Some discussion of his possible imitation of other styles as he developed his own, and suitability of such imagery in front of a child/daughter.
4. SJ behaviour with volunteers. Concerns discussed. 1-2 posters stated their inside experience/views. These were discussed and debated at length with concerns raised about this in terms of ethics/moral if not legality (Workaway in France). List of boyfriends maintained so we can keep track.
5. Financial gain. Concerns re the lack of financial transparency, continued donations by the vulnerable, questions raised about the charitable foundation. As we are a global group, familiarity with french taxation and laws was supplemented by posters who knew/searched online. Can't ask polite questions as patreons or fb group as you get slammed. So discussed here.
6. SJ behaviour. There was a discussion on SJ's observed behaviour and whether it was ADHD, narcissism, hoarding, child like for a 45 year old, etc. Also relationship with her parents based on her commentary. This did get a bit weird. Discussed on relationship dynamics with ex boyfriends, whobshe mentions and does not, hence the boyfriend timeline.
7. The Pethericks. We avoid the Trotters as most find them boring or distasteful in open money grab and number of vlogs. Once they were up, through a few simple searches of social media history, commenters raised concerns. Speculation on their motives and background. Concern re Gwen. MP2 basically supported with his creativity, depressive tendancies and potential; frustration at lack of action, rework on cottage, open begging in his vlogs. Failure to launch comes to mind.
8. Persons of disrepute who & why. Brenda's bullying online of persons including a patreon asking simple questions. Her inserting herself in key moments like Forest Gump, and general mis representations exposed, including basic lies like the view from her window. She advertised Tattle to 10000 fb fans and threatened us. So a few legal truths were published on Tattle. Jill Scott has a white collar taxation criminal record. Multiple times our comments have expressed frustration and amazement at who SJ associates her brand with and could she please get some experts in, rather than amateurs.
Of all people in LaLa universe Nic, MP and Ruthy are often discussed as professionals who would have some idea of what to do, so we wonder what is going on in her head. Oli, as a marketing communications person and potential co- vlogger, would he not speak with her. Watch SJ burn him for BJJ on launching Chateau tours across Europe.
9. La La Land Universe. Commentary on other "characters" (as SJ calks them in vlog 100) is a critique on their behaviour in vlogs, motivations for being there, work contributions, etc. Especially when they start own money making/begging social media presence. BJJ's presence with no skills raises the thought SJ needs a sidekick (used to be MP). Look I can't even be bothered writing about him, read the threads.
10. Restoration work not prioritised. Lack of structural, heating, the basics considered as people obviously are freezing in an old hunting lodge/ruin. It was never a grand Chateau. 15 year ownership yet on her vlogs SJ shows rooms she hasn't gone into (vlog 36) or enters very infrequently or keeps tidy (attic, laundry room, old dairy room, hallways).
Your turn for Cocktailsdumpster dived
SSB .... well let’s say
if there wasn’t a direct reason to delay ETTC DIY in 2020 ....
the charlatan will be repenting a lot in her leisure time ... shortly
arrogance breeds comptemp
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It’s taken such bravery for you to talk about these trolls. It’s been affecting all of us at Lalande and Basmaignee for so long. Absolutely lovely people have been bullied so badly that they’ve even chosen to leave the chateau rather than take the abuse. Guests of mine who were not even in the vlog have been stalked and bullied, and the lies that have been made up are beyond belief. My departed wonderful, mild-mannered almost tee-total father has even been accused of being an alcoholic who sexually abused me as a child. The desire to gossip about others is human nature, and none of us mind light hearted speculation about who we’re dating, etc. But I can’t understand people who are so desperate to see evil in others that they invent it and disseminate it. We’re in this together Michael
together
when major dick sees how you encited your super fans to TROLL his wife.....
Ally
I love that your fans come together and telling off this specific person (at least on the videos where the comment section is still on). Don't think about the few haters, look at how beautifully your fans stand together. We won't let you down - now more than ever
your FANS pleaded with YOU....
On YouTube ... after you posted that diatribe
Pat Keohane
Stephanie, please ask Michael to remove this video. For legal reasons.
1 day ago
What ... your in bed in another chateau
Unaware of your friends plight - how clearly upset he looked
oh wait you and BJJ were out on a date ... oops
and YET
Your SUPERFANs
continued to hound the producers WIFE of the TVshow your on ......
With as yet ALLEGED wrongdoings
and you say .......... nothing
Xyz Xyz
Well I’m shocked at your comment Stephanie, not wholly surprised, but shocked at the meanness and I guess evil intent by very pathetic people. Please know that you are respected and we love the content of your adventures at the chateau. As for Michael, very sad and actually criminal how he has been treated with regard to his signing the rights away .... he needed good guidance in that moment and didn’t get it!! He was robbed and abused. I’m very sorry that this has happened to such a lovely sweet young man. Tell him chin up, lesson learned and get back to his art and creating beautiful work again!! For if not, the bad people win and that’s just unacceptable. Much love to Michael
Miriam James
I remember hearing “local artist” on the show and knew you from other parts of the show and being so confused. I am glad to know the truth, as this impacts my opinion of the show and the people who run it. I’m so sorry this happened to you! You are an amazing artist and I would rather support you than them! All my good wishes for the future Michael
Alison Vandergragt
I stopped watching that show immediately when I suspected you were wronged. I saw your first video, and l was hooked. Your content is the real deal, you are sincere, talented, and between you and Stephanie, l get all the Chateau life l need. Michael, you have thousands of fans who find you talented and amazing. Please find a way to let this unfortunate situation go...and keep being the fabulous person you are, doing the things the rest of us can only dream of doing!
There’s over 7000 reasons you should be ..... anxious
50% of your FANS are openly hounding poor dick and angle
and you stoked the flames
@ggyahoo I recognise you and your amazing way with words - so pleased you haven't abandoned usA Donegal summary for newbies.
LaLande is a chateau in France,
Which patrons pay to enhance.
But the chatelaine is feckless,
And with the money quite reckless.
She prefers to party and dance.
Hello New Member here ... I've been watching CD for some time, since ETTCDIY...after reading through most of the threads here I feel like I have found my people....all my concerns and wondering if gift accepting from strangers is normal had me worried I'd been living my life by the wrong set of morals, this site has conforted me with the realisation I'm not alone at being sickened by the false appreciation for, on occasion, rather weird stuff.Who knows about UK tax and can explain gift and inheritance tax to us? (In Enid Blyton speak) Can you just be given assets without tax implications!!
This is ridiculous Imo , have you never visited an art gallery ? nudes have been in art for all time ! i only agree that they are not very good , as has been said before they are very much reimagined copies of well known artists, and would possibly look better displayed in just a couple of spaces .... But they are not porn . I know it’s all a matter of taste , and I have no problem with nudes !The problem I have with Derek Jarvis' painting is...while I'm most assuredly NOT a prude by any stretch of the imagination...his paintings, to me are what some call "soft porn". Yes, art is in the eye of the beholder but, to me at least, this art should not be displayed where any children or very moral, easily offended people can look at them at any time. Yes, she should be proud of them, they were done by her beloved father, but have a seperate "gallery" room where they can be displayed but with a warning on the door! They definitely don't lend anything to the atmosphere of a centuries old chateau.
There aren’t a lot of used condoms in either classical or modern nude paintings.This is ridiculous Imo , have you never visited an art gallery ? nudes have been in art for all time ! i only agree that they are not very good , as has been said before they are very much reimagined copies of well known artists, and would possibly look better displayed in just a couple of spaces .... But they are not porn . I know it’s all a matter of taste , and I have no problem with nudes !
Perhaps @Heathcliffe can't pretend to work during the weekendWhere’s Heathcliffe in all this drama, he love a bit of Trotter Tribulations and now we have it in spades and not a nugget from him, perhaps he’s just absorbing it all and gathering his thoughts and constructing his musings on gardenpotageriedesigngate.
That's the problem....Instead of the cadeau channel why not tell people the gifts were appreciated, it's been fun, but we have enough now, if you feel urge to give, please donate directly to "abc" worthy cause we support -- and film something about the worthy cause, interview them, show what they do. Then, it's not about SJ and friends, it's truly about the cause.
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