Not quite a thread summary. However in anticipation of new members I've tried.
For those new to this thread, particularly if directed by recent commentary on youtube; welcome. I encourage you to start at thread #1. This is a discussion including critiques of the Chateau Diaries, and under sufferance, The Pethericks. If you are a superfan this is not the site for you. We do not abuse if we disagree. This is not fb or youtube. Tattle.life is a free exchange you cannot moderate others' views. We say " I disagree" or present an alternative view. Most info is from SJ vlogs, insta, facebook or from basic searches of public info. Many on here are incredibley witty. Origns are we enjoyed original vlogs, interesting reno talk, travels, etc. Then the money grab started which raised a lot of concerns.
In recent topical threads we have discussed:
1. Concern re how SJ presents her personal financial situation and how fans don't connect the dots. SJ owns flat in London and 50% Chateau. IJ owns ZA property, UK property and presumabley a % of her own mother's home in France.
2. COVID Christmas Diaries at the Chateau - it was evident more people were at the Chateau than the 16 for dinner. Discussions focused on who they were as they were seen in background of vlogs and on cleaning/cooking rosters. Concern increased when it was evident length of journey (would require a pit stop with potential risk) and 2 holding senior public roles in Netherlands and Belgium. No persons have been contacted making comments to them, nor their employers. Not sure how this is bullying.
3. Derek Jarvis paintings -- several present sexualised imagery. These are not openly shown but visible. SJ said her father let people have own interpretation - so I did, tongue in check on one painting. Some discussion of his possible imitation of other styles as he developed his own, and suitability of such imagery in front of a child/daughter.
4. SJ behaviour with volunteers. Concerns discussed. 1-2 posters stated their inside experience/views. These were discussed and debated at length with concerns raised about this in terms of ethics/moral if not legality (Workaway in France). List of boyfriends maintained so we can keep track.
5. Financial gain. Concerns re the lack of financial transparency, continued donations by the vulnerable, questions raised about the charitable foundation. As we are a global group, familiarity with french taxation and laws was supplemented by posters who knew/searched online. Can't ask polite questions as patreons or fb group as you get slammed. So discussed here.
6. SJ behaviour. There was a discussion on SJ's observed behaviour and whether it was ADHD, narcissism, hoarding, child like for a 45 year old, etc. Also relationship with her parents based on her commentary. This did get a bit weird. Discussed on relationship dynamics with ex boyfriends, whobshe mentions and does not, hence the boyfriend timeline.
7. The Pethericks. We avoid the Trotters as most find them boring or distasteful in open money grab and number of vlogs. Once they were up, through a few simple searches of social media history, commenters raised concerns. Speculation on their motives and background. Concern re Gwen. MP2 basically supported with his creativity, depressive tendancies and potential; frustration at lack of action, rework on cottage, open begging in his vlogs. Failure to launch comes to mind.
8. Persons of disrepute who & why. Brenda's bullying online of persons including a patreon asking simple questions. Her inserting herself in key moments like Forest Gump, and general mis representations exposed, including basic lies like the view from her window. She advertised Tattle to 10000 fb fans and threatened us. So a few legal truths were published on Tattle. Jill Scott has a white collar taxation criminal record. Multiple times our comments have expressed frustration and amazement at who SJ associates her brand with and could she please get some experts in, rather than amateurs.
Of all people in LaLa universe Nic, MP and Ruthy are often discussed as professionals who would have some idea of what to do, so we wonder what is going on in her head. Oli, as a marketing communications person and potential co- vlogger, would he not speak with her. Watch SJ burn him for BJJ on launching Chateau tours across Europe.
9. La La Land Universe. Commentary on other "characters" (as SJ calks them in vlog 100) is a critique on their behaviour in vlogs, motivations for being there, work contributions, etc. Especially when they start own money making/begging social media presence. BJJ's presence with no skills raises the thought SJ needs a sidekick (used to be MP). Look I can't even be bothered writing about him, read the threads.
10. Restoration work not prioritised. Lack of structural, heating, the basics considered as people obviously are freezing in an old hunting lodge/ruin. It was never a grand Chateau. 15 year ownership yet on her vlogs SJ shows rooms she hasn't gone into (vlog 36) or enters very infrequently or keeps tidy (attic, laundry room, old dairy room, hallways).
Not quite a thread summary. However in anticipation of new members I've tried.
For those new to this thread, particularly if directed by recent commentary on youtube; welcome. I encourage you to start at thread #1. This is a discussion including critiques of the Chateau Diaries, and under sufferance, The Pethericks. If you are a superfan this is not the site for you. We do not abuse if we disagree. We say " I disagree" or present an alternative view. Most info is from SJ vlogs, insta, facebook or from basic searches of public info. Many on here are incredibley witty. Origns are we enjoyed original vlogs, interesting reno talk, travels, etc. Then the money grab started which raised a lot of concerns.
In recent topical threads we have discussed:
1. Concern re how SJ presents her personal financial situation and how fans don't connect the dots. SJ owns flat in London and 50% Chateau. IJ owns ZA property, UK property and presumabley a % of her own mother's home in France.
2. COVID Christmas at the Chateau - it was evident more people were at the Chateau than the 16 for dinner. Discussions focused on who they were as they were seen in background of vlogs and on cleaning/cooking rosters. Concern increased when it was evident length of journey (would require a pit stop with potential risk) and 2 holding senior public roles in Netherlands and Belgium. No persons have been contacted making comments to them, nor their employers. Not sure how this is bullying.
3. Derek Jarvis paintings -- several present sexualised imagery. These are not openly shown but visible. SJ said her father let people have own interpretation - so I did, tongue in check on one painting. Some discussion of his possible imitation of other styles as he developed his own, and suitability of such imagery in front of a child/daughter.
4. SJ behaviour with volunteers. Concerns discussed. 1-2 posters stated their inside experience/views. These were discussed and debated at length with concerns raised about this in terms of ethics/moral if not legality (Workaway in France). List of boyfriends maintained so we can keep track.
5. Financial gain. Concerns re the lack of financial transparency, continued donations by the vulnerable, questions raised about the charitable foundation. As we are a global group, familiarity with french taxation and laws was supplemented by posters who knew/searched online. Can't ask polite questions as patreons or fb group as you get slammed. So discussed here.
6. SJ behaviour. There was a discussion on SJ's observed behaviour and whether it was ADHD, narcissism, hoarding, child like for a 45 year old, etc. Also relationship with her parents based on her commentary. This did get a bit weird. Discussed on relationship dynamics with ex boyfriends, whobshe mentions and does not, hence the boyfriend timeline.
7. The Pethericks. We avoid the Trotters as most find them boring or distasteful in open money grab and number of vlogs. Once they were up, through a few simple searches of social media history, commenters raised concerns. Speculation on their motives and background. Concern re Gwen. MP2 basically supported with his creativity, depressive tendancies and potential; frustration at lack of action, rework on cottage, open begging in his vlogs. Failure to launch comes to mind.
8. Persons of disrepute who & why. Brenda's bullying online of persons including a patreon asking simple questions. Her inserting herself in key moments like Forest Gump, and general mis representations exposed, including basic lies like the view from her window. She advertised Tattle to 10000 fb fans and threatened us. So a few legal truths were published on Tattle. Jill Scott has a white collar taxation criminal record. Multiple times our comments have expressed frustration and amazement at who SJ associates her brand with and could she please get some experts in, rather than amateurs.
Of all people in LaLa universe Nic, MP and Ruthy are often discussed as professionals who would have some idea of what to do, so we wonder what is going on in her head. Oli, as a marketing communications person and potential co- vlogger, would he not speak with her. Watch SJ burn him for BJJ on launching Chateau tours across Europe.
9. La La Land Universe. Commentary on other "characters" (as SJ calks them in vlog 100) is a critique on their behaviour in vlogs, motivations for being there, work contributions, etc. Especially when they start own money making/begging social media presence. BJJ's presence with no skills raises the thought SJ needs a sidekick (used to be MP). Look I can't even be bothered writing about him, read the threads.
10. Restoration work not prioritised. Lack of structural, heating, the basics considered as people obviously are freezing in an old hunting lodge/ruin. It was never a grand Chateau. 15 year ownership yet on her vlogs SJ shows rooms she hasn't gone into (vlog 36) or enters very infrequently or keeps tidy (attic, laundry room, old dairy room, hallways).