More colonizers in chateau country (just noticing). I wonder if there's another revolution in the works.
Raspberrybrulee Post 3537227 All will be revealed one day. When she hits menopause the tinny tune on the piano in the parlour will play and her song will be, when discussion turns to children and her lack thereof - "I wasn't able to have children" (flat voice, downward cast eyes abject demeanour suggesting she does not wish to elaborate further) if pressed "I never found a man who wanted me to have children "Would be a good father" "Would support me in parenting" or (bring out the big guns) in the better class of her social circles, one does not discuss personal health or "women's problems" but rest assured whilst not actually naming surgery/women's problems etc etc she'll slip in IVF treatment (failed) adoption (laws changed, couldn't find suitable/available waAgree it's not a crime to not have kids - indeed sometimes I feel very selfish for bringing my children into this already over-populated world. No, it's more that I wondered if it was a theme in people with NPD so that they can remain the centre of attention (not saying this applies to everyone who doesn't have children but it would seem to fit with Stephanie and the person that I know).
This is exactly the issue I have with SJ. Sandro kindly posted some good videos on NPD earlier (Luddite I can’t repost) . I had mentioned how torn I sometimes feel (in particular giving examples of her sitting on the floor wrapping gifts and the other day when she won the feve/crown. ) Even Clara posted that in the latter she was as normal/genuine as ever Stephanie ‘used’ to be, which I feel is insightful.
But as you say, difficult. Incidentally since reading and learning about NPD I have actually wondered whether I have it, or does that alone discount me from such a condition? Maybe I’m just a self-centred singleton !
Frenchessence Post 3537482 We all have traits of NPD but that's what makes us human - being artistic, entertaining, funny, sad etc all add to the mix. It's when there is a failure to keep topped up with empathy, support for others, genuine relationships which are based on love/respect for others not where you are the centre of the universe and only see the universe as a source of sparkling light shining on yourself and where your need for attention, money, adoration etc outweighs all else. NPD's do not recognise the needs of others - ie what you wear to a funeral and how sad it makes you looking at a dress rather than how devastated your mother was at losing her husband, and not making everything about me, me, me. Non NPD's have that inner voice which puts the brakes when we realise we are being selfish or unreasonable etc. Non NPD's can say a genuine "I'm Sorry I upset/hurt you" not a "Sorry you got upset". NPD's don't recognise when their victims are hurt or upset - or if they do they don't care, or worse file it away for further use/This is exactly the issue I have with SJ. Sandro kindly posted some good videos on NPD earlier (Luddite I can’t repost) . I had mentioned how torn I sometimes feel (in particular giving examples of her sitting on the floor wrapping gifts and the other day when she won the feve/crown. ) Even Clara posted that in the latter she was as normal/genuine as ever Stephanie ‘used’ to be, which I feel is insightful.
But as you say, difficult. Incidentally since reading and learning about NPD I have actually wondered whether I have it, or does that alone discount me from such a condition? Maybe I’m just a self-centred singleton !
I remember that attitudes and "rules" re travel and unaccompanied children were very different pre 1990s. I just don't believe she travelled unaccompanied at 3. I do believe she may have at 8/9. She was born in 1975. By 1978, the concept of kidnapping, child abduction was topical.When I was a child, I was allowed to travel away and spend Christmas with another family a few times. It's not child abuse, quite the contrary. I was thrilled and not because I had an unhappy family to get away from; I just really loved to go anywhere new. If anything, I had to walk a fine line and not appear too eager, which would have made my parents (well, my mother) cross enough to refuse to give permission. Travel is the BEST present!
Oh FrannyBee one of my all time favourite films. It was so real and raw. Exceptional acting.Raspberrybrulee Post 3537227 All will be revealed one day. When she hits menopause the tinny tune on the piano in the parlour will play and her song will be, when discussion turns to children and her lack thereof - "I wasn't able to have children" (flat voice, downward cast eyes abject demeanour suggesting she does not wish to elaborate further) if pressed "I never found a man who wanted me to have children "Would be a good father" "Would support me in parenting" or (bring out the big guns) in the better class of her social circles, one does not discuss personal health or "women's problems" but rest assured whilst not actually naming surgery/women's problems etc etc she'll slip in IVF treatment (failed) adoption (laws changed, couldn't find suitable/available wa
Frenchessence Post 3537482 We all have traits of NPD but that's what makes us human - being artistic, entertaining, funny, sad etc all add to the mix. It's when there is a failure to keep topped up with empathy, support for others, genuine relationships which are based on love/respect for others not where you are the centre of the universe and only see the universe as a source of sparkling light shining on yourself and where your need for attention, money, adoration etc outweighs all else. NPD's do not recognise the needs of others - ie what you wear to a funeral and how sad it makes you looking at a dress rather than how devastated your mother was at losing her husband, and not making everything about me, me, me. Non NPD's have that inner voice which puts the brakes when we realise we are being selfish or unreasonable etc. Non NPD's can say a genuine "I'm Sorry I upset/hurt you" not a "Sorry you got upset". NPD's don't recognise when their victims are hurt or upset - or if they do they don't care, or worse file it away for further use/
Have you lost anyone close? Do you remember or care about what you wore to the funeral.? Normal people don't care. NPD's do.
If you get a chance watch "Ordinary People" The scene where the husband (Donald Sutherland) comes home and whilst in the car he's just driven into the garage, the wife (Mary Tyler Moore) comes out and he asks her about what he wore at funeral (Won't give spoiler).
Yawn fest ... can’t .... just noMore colonizers in chateau country (just noticing). I wonder if there's another revolution in the works.
66Carola post 3540043 I think I've worked it out - you are all talking about ETTCDIY which we haven't seen in Oz yet. Still regurgitating ETTC from about 5 years ago on our cable tv - Don't know if I'll bother as Fat Albert annoys me every time the food arrives and his fist is shoved in the communal bowl and he's got the next grab whilst his mouth is still full (Sorry I'm a bitch) Dorothy is turning into a little Ange, Dick gets a hard on every time Ange walks past and Ange has shares in Loreal's Trump Orange Glow range (old stocks on sale as not welling well). Who are these people? Why do they use up my oxygen. I suppose at least Dick and Ange work hard and deserve what they have (supposedly) and don't ask for volunteers and patreons and those friends and family mainly seem to come from UK and get a holiday stay in return.[QUOTE="Julie Sue, post: 3536780, member: 178969")
Nice to see fat Philly or Barbie responding in such a pleasant manner towards genuine questions of covering up their crumbling walls.
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Anger Angie is always quite inpatient with people. I can only imagine her as a real estate agent: I gave you 5min to view the house and you stil haven't decided to buy this house and pay me 50000 provision?
it was said that alcoholics were skinny bc as smokers they didnt feel the need to eatPno re ridiculous POW outfit. I repeat about the drinky poos. Loss of weight through alcohol or Anorexia?
think RenautI confess my ignorance. What is VW? Vera Wang? Verizon Wireless? Vietnam War?
wait till episode where she will be sorting the crownsSomeone who wants to prance around in them showing other people how her enviable figure has not changed one bit over all those years...
I read at some point they were allowing people to pay them to work in the chateau garden. It had never occurred to me that there was a more opposite opposite of volunteer.I suppose at least Dick and Ange work hard and deserve what they have (supposedly) and don't ask for volunteers and patreons and those friends and family mainly seem to come from UK and get a holiday stay in return.
Hi yes I appreciate her skilkset and replacing canadian(?) Marketing logo #2, bad filming guy with beard. I just don't get why you would leave boyfriend and new job, unless no more job or boyfriend?SJ wants Mandy to edit her videos especially CATCH
do you member number 34B?
since there soon will be time for the next one, can the nice person who will be setting it up and posting the abbreviations, post also the link to Trotter towers?
Are you slagging my memory?
They get joy
people like the guy with the small red carpet who is an art dealer get more customers.
Curtis gets more viewers and subscribers to his channel and some patron money
100 stars and other companies that provides gifts - get more customers.
but mainly they get joy
And they get thanks a few times and more recognition online when they share it the likes the comments the feeling part of something?
those of us who donate to a charity or some hungry homeless person don’t get that and that is enough for most people.
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sandton Re attachments from CD Poor deluded creatures. They would be better donating to local food bank than lining Queenie Narcissist pocketsThey get joy
people like the guy with the small red carpet who is an art dealer get more customers.
Curtis gets more viewers and subscribers to his channel and some patron money
100 stars and other companies that provides gifts - get more customers.
but mainly they get joy
And they get thanks a few times and more recognition online when they share it the likes the comments the feeling part of something?
those of us who donate to a charity or some hungry homeless person don’t get that and that is enough for most people.
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Princess and the Pea Post 3544620Ah so you fell for the throwaway plant comment by Davey when he left about the amphitheatre. Who in the holy heck would go that the godforsaken place out in the middle of nowhere. I mean honestly, how much would that sort of thing cost? And all hosted by a two bit opera singer who no-one has heard of.
Rory Post 3546405 That would not be a good look - one died yesterday and the other last year. The one last year was the lion bait (or tiger - I'm too lazy to Google it) Being perverse though, I would have loved to have seen their act in Vegas. We don't get that type of excitement in Oz although I think I did see Clare the other day in downtown Humpty Doo.Oh I love him. It's like his head is retracting back into his body - he has no neck. He is like a Sigfried & Roy version of Andre Rieu.
66Carola Post3547653 We all have scars but we all don't live our lives and treat people as does our little Princess. I can't stand the movie "Sixteen Candles" 'cos my 16th got ignored. This was the early 60's and the world didn't revolve around teenagers then. My parents didn't have much money and my father was a army Major but we usually got a Happy Birthday and some effort. I was the youngest and only one left at home. My 16th morning. Nothing. No acknowledgement. I didn't say anything. Waited, waited waited. So after a week I let it go, so if the only way it scarred me is I don't like a 3rd rate movie I've moved on. Never did ask my mother who's long gone, but can only assume she had something more important going on in her life that day.Maybe she only got clothes? Which she doesn't consider as real presents? My parents bought me only a set of (expensive) clothes for birthday and Christmas which they considered as totally generous. (you know, they had to walk 10miles in the winter without shoes when they were small ) Toys were useless since they would distract me from learning, anyway. They even wouldn't buy me books because my eyes would get bad (schoolbooks were different!) If I got presents from a neighbour or somebody else I was supposed not to unwrap it because they used it as a present for someone else to save money and said I would see then what I got . When I asked them later as an adult about it they had no memories of it of course. when I insisted they speculated that I was a tidy child and didn't want too much stuff in my room--sure, tidy child hahaha...
(I had no room but a camp bed under the stairs)
My younger sister didn't get even clothes because she got my old ones.Anyway I didn't get the clothes on my actual birthday but whenever I outgrow my old ones obviously
What I wanted to say: people have different memories and truly believe their version.. My sister has even another version of our past.
So SJ might believe she didn't get any presents and Mummy remembers the whole nursing home queuing up for her
I watched this couple as they were trying to find a chateau, he is ok but she drives me mad! I think this couple will do well, i dont think they have a patreon at this stage.More colonizers in chateau country (just noticing). I wonder if there's another revolution in the works.
Well he doesn't have to work as hard, when one looks as dashing as him, right?Still no video from the work shy trotter. Is anyone a patron of his? Does he do patron videos or does he slack with those too?
still can’t comprehend how he got away with a gofund me for thousands and do minimum work and basically is non existent.
She died a couple of years ago. Used to spend summers at the chateau driving Isabelle insane. She was the biggest flirt ever, would only talk down on her daughter but very friendly towards SJ.Yes, but at what capacity? She could have been in a care home as well by that point.
I have no idea.@Clara Burnett how long did SJ and Edmond Fokker date for?
I have no idea.
Interesting. Being coquettish and critical is a family trait. Stephanie has said she was “more ferocious than Mummy”.She died a couple of years ago. Used to spend summers at the chateau driving Isabelle insane. She was the biggest flirt ever, would only talk down on her daughter but very friendly towards SJ.
Oh yes, way before. Basically before all the volunteers turned into boyfriends. Also before Mason.Did E.Fokker come before or after Nordic Weirdo?
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