The Archie Battersbee case #11

[jessica justice]

Having had a day to think about it, I'm sure HD is running on rage and adrenalin which would explain a lot of her behaviour, incl the press conference yesterday. This was me last year after watching my mum die of a brain tumour (the death rattle breathing stage lasted 2 long, horrible weeks which left me ptsd) and my then 12yo son having a full and complete breakdown. I didn't blame the hospital or accuse people of murder but I was filled with rage at the "professionals" at school and in CAHMS that had let my son down so badly and ran on adrenalin for a good few years dealing with both things. I got help last year and am loads better now.

So I do get it. I can see how she can come across as callous. I'm sure she isn't entirely. I'm sure she loves him and is devastated. Blaming the medics etc postpones the point at which she has to face herself. It is wrong but I can understand the thought process.

Her shocking behaviour aside, I have huge sympathy for her. Now she has to go home to where it happened, to an empty house filled with him and live with the fact that if she'd taken him seriously the first time, he'd still be alive. I can't imagine how hard that is.

Anyway, I'm going to stop waffling. I want yo send a card to the docs and nurses in PICU. Was it The Royal London he was in?
Thanks.

Yes he was in the Royal London on Whitechapel road

 

[anotheronebitesthedust.1]

Publicly by police , medical teams and media? Or just on SM ?

Tik tok made a statement saying this was not a challenge or a dare that was trending at the time and also they were aware of similar dares that dated back pre tik tok but it was choking dares where kids would choke each other to the point of passing out and not a hanging dare

 

[Apostate]

I expect the next episode to be Hollie demanding full access to all Archie's medical records

 

[Madge Harvey]

I wasn’t going to comment on this thread again but reading the comments on the DM website has got me so worked up.
The amount of people saying “oh TikTok this and TikTok that”
Can someone please find me a TikTok challenge that involves tying a dressing gown cord round your neck and hanging from a bannister 8ft up?

Archie meant what he was doing and the sooner people realise that the sooner they realise just what Hollie is all about.

 

[WhiteFlorals]

The human brain takes until 25 to become fully developed and a child goes through massive changes throughout puberty, they are not deemed to give legal consent to many things because they make silly choices as the frontal lobe responsible for long term decision making is just not working well enough.

Absolutely! Believe you me, as soon as the staff had a whiff that HD was going to be one of those 'difficult' parents, everything would have been documented. Every interaction, every time they explained things to the family, and the family's response. I would imagine, the staff may have had to work in pairs, so that there was always a 'witness' to everything and anything. The extra time and resources that this family would have required due to 'their manner', is disgusting. Unfortunately, the 'squeakiest wheel gets the most oil'!!

What is "difficult" does not worship , does not respond to manipulation and likes to think critically?

 

[CocoLoco2]

I too am watching that thread develop, live

Same, some of the comments are my sort of savage

 

[Sneauflake]

What is "difficult" does not worship , does not respond to manipulation and likes to think critically?

Calm down there, Attila.

 

[Apostate]

Can someone please find me a TikTok challenge that involves tying a dressing gown cord round your neck and hanging from a bannister 8ft up?

Most people simply don't know how he died. On the BBC News site I don't believe there is any reference to him hanging himself.

 

[LT2201]

Absolutely! Believe you me, as soon as the staff had a whiff that HD was going to be one of those 'difficult' parents, everything would have been documented. Every interaction, every time they explained things to the family, and the family's response. I would imagine, the staff may have had to work in pairs, so that there was always a 'witness' to everything and anything. The extra time and resources that this family would have required due to 'their manner', is disgusting. Unfortunately, the 'squeakiest wheel gets the most oil'!!

As horrible as it sounds you can spot the people that are guaranteed to kick off over trivial things a million miles away. They always know better than you and love a bit of Dr Google. I hope that the PICU had a good supportive SCN to back up the staff during all this, it won't have been an easy few months with how I can only imagine Hollie will have been towards them.

 

[CoffeeMamma]

There was an article last night that said Archie’s care cost the hospital around £155k. Can you imagine if we were in a country where you had to pay for the majority of your healthcare

 

[LT2201]

Is this supposed to be an insult? I take it as flattery - I am nothing to do with them. You can't change my mind, they are my opinions, they were formed over years of data analysis and I think they are correct or they would not be my opinions - they would be your opinions - which I don't stare because they make zero logical sense to me.

Have a nice life, especially when in hospital near the end!

Data analysis or YouTube video?

 

[Tireesix]

Archie Battersbee: No parent must go through this again - family

The 12-year-old's family say they were "stripped of all our rights" in a legal battle with doctors.

www.bbc.co.uk

HD is calling for an inquiry......

 

[MrsJones83]

Whilst reporting on This Mornings error Essex Live is now stating Archie was in an induced coma. What is the matter with journalists? Can they just stop making things up?

Thought this was interesting

 

[DoctorFlocci]

There was an article last night that said Archie’s care cost the hospital around £155k. Can you imagine if we were in a country where you had to pay for the majority of your healthcare

I keep thinking of all the blood transfusions he received, blood is such a precious resource, it literally can’t be bought.

But as with everything else that they did, the clinicians & nursing teams who cared for Archie did so to the highest possible standards. They supported him completely whilst his mother vilified them on a daily basis & made numerous false accusations.

 

[kittenattack]

Archie Battersbee: No parent must go through this again - family

The 12-year-old's family say they were "stripped of all our rights" in a legal battle with doctors.

www.bbc.co.uk

HD is calling for an inquiry......

She is so friggin' thick. Parents don't have 'rights', people have rights. Children are individuals in their own right. Nobody owns their child, from the moment the umbilical cord is cut, the child is an individual human being. Parents take the kid home from the maternity unit because it's their child, but it's not their property to do with what they want. You're only allowed to keep it so long as you don't endanger, neglect or abuse it.

 

[ishant]

God, all I can think now is the poor staff having to look after, essentially, a dead boy for so long. It must be really traumatic

 

[JanePlain]

They got several independent opinions!

I think the issue is the specialists were all contacted by the hospital, so the family didn't trust them. I think if the family had found an NHS doctor who specialised in this area the hospital would have been fine (I imagine they tried but couldn't find one), and the CLC were just dredging up pro-life zealots from abroad who happened to have a doctor qualification and were claiming all sorts of things even though Archie wasn't their patient.

Thanks for the info.

I think if I was in disagreement with medical staff & was questioning their motives in such a major decision - a totally independent expert medical opinion would be the first thing I would search out.

 

[Kitchen Nightmare]

Anna Firth the MP has limited who can respond to her tweets

You can still @ her or quote retweet

 

[kittenattack]

I've had a look at that painhub thing in tiktok. It's full of self harm and suicidal ideation content. Very dark.

 

[MrsJones83]

Thanks for the info.

I think if I was in disagreement with medical staff & was questioning their motives in such a major decision - a totally independent expert medical opinion would be the first thing I would search out.

The family did have an independent doctor, but the judge was very condescending about him and he hadn’t even bothered to examine Archie or view his scans.