I just listened to part of that podcast....firstly I'm annoyed that Erica didn't stand up for the POC in Ireland when they gave that bull excuse for not having POC on their cover and secondly Vicky is an absolute uneducated fool for saying that they are pretty much reliant on other media to promote POC before they are considered to be put in their cover or positioned as a celebrity. By passing the blame she is automatically becoming part of the problem!