Tattle Turds #2

[Ena Sharples]

alerting everyone who keeps away from the MT as long as Alice is gone that she is back ranting better than ever on IG

I kind of appreciate having not had any overt FMs fly in here, it makes me think maybe there's at least some lines they don't feel appropriate to cross So if there are any FM lurkers, sincerely thank you for being decent enough to leave us to our support thread.

Feel a bit like we're on Hallowed ground or claiming Sanctuary in here It would be a bit beyond the pale to screenshot stuff in here or to come in here to poke at people I think.

Big hugs.

I’m not sure what’s going on but I’m so sorry you are hurting, you are so kind and accepting of people and come across as really level headed too

(The above sounded like I was giving you feedback, I was sincere though.)

How is your music project coming along?

I was thinking yesterday how lovely it would be to have twice as long in life so you could fit in all those things you would love to do eg learn to read music and play an instrument. Then I remembered who I was and that if I had twice as long, I would just spend twice as long thinking about doing stuff and twice as long doing bugger all about it.

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

I don't know if you see this or if you have me on ignore. This is what I said the first time the issue of not having children was raised.
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So my stance was to give people the benefit of the doubt, and if it turns out they are targeting people, like me and you, who are childless, not by choice, then I would be hurt by their comments.
The latest person came on saying 'are you a parent?" and I gave them too the benefit of the doubt. I wrote to them explaining there are people here who are not parents (not by choice) and that we can use our imagination, we don't need to have had children to have opinions. They then made a point of coming back at me, sticking the knife in and turning it around. I give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove me wrong, this person went out of her way to prove me wrong, and I have every right to be hurt by this as you, especially as I was the one being targeted.

I do have you on ignore and will continue to do so. I'd like to point out that in the last screenshot you had quoted/but not quoted me as saying "have you ever been in an abusive relationship??????" Which is not how I said it at all.

I have been suspicious of you for quite a while before this. That ^ set of exchanges was my last straw Not only were you IMO defending the indefensibly and purposely hurtful, offensive comment made by Lillyheart but you also misrepresented myself and the other posters reactions while comparing something completely different.

The other earlier poster (can't remember their name) had come in to either defend Alice or condemn Ioan (I can't remember right now) and I had gently asked if she had experience of abusive relationships because from what they had posted it seemed like she was lacking in some key information. I most certainly didn't react like "have you ever been in an abusive relationship?????"

I don't want to get into a back and forth about it. I will continue to keep you on ignore because I don't trust your motivations are sincere or benign If I'm wrong I apologise but I'm not prepared to take the risk.

Big hugs.

I’m not sure what’s going on but I’m so sorry you are hurting, you are so kind and accepting of people and come across as really level headed too

(The above sounded like I was giving you feedback, I was sincere though.)

How is your music project coming along?

I was thinking yesterday how lovely it would be to have twice as long in life so you could fit in all those things you would love to do eg learn to read music and play an instrument. Then I remembered who I was and that if I had twice as long, I would just spend twice as long thinking about doing stuff and twice as long doing bugger all about it.

Aw thank you @Ena Sharples I needed the hug today I think Got some stressful stuff going on IRL and I'm getting my period so I'm feeling sore and extra emotional right now

I haven't done much more on the music thing, my phone is really old and has no memory space left (no apps left to delete either just necessary stuff like contacts etc ) so can't even pop a voice note up - if I could figure out how to upload something of that nature in the first place I think maybe I'll have the best chance of success with one of the websites like the one @Katie8ee Linked to earlier maybe one day I'll figure it out and manage to upload it

BIB I so relate! Either that or have your time again but retain all your memories so I could do it right this time... I'd probably make most of the mistakes again!

 

[CookieMonsta]

I do have you on ignore and will continue to do so. I'd like to point out that in the last screenshot you had quoted/but not quoted me as saying "have you ever been in an abusive relationship??????" Which is not how I said it at all.

I have been suspicious of you for quite a while before this. That ^ set of exchanges was my last straw Not only were you IMO defending the indefensibly and purposely hurtful, offensive comment made by another poster but you also misrepresented myself and the other posters reactions while comparing something completely different.

The other poster had come in to either defend Alice or condemn Ioan (I can't remember right now) and I had gently asked if she had experience of abusive relationships because from what they had posted it seemed like she was lacking in some key information. I most certainly didn't react like "have you ever been in an abusive relationship?????"

I don't want to get into a back and forth about it. I will continue to keep you on ignore because I don't trust your motivations are sincere or benign If I'm wrong I apologise but I'm not prepared to take the risk.



Aw thank you @Ena Sharples I needed the hug today I think Got some stressful stuff going on IRL and I'm getting my period so I'm feeling sore and extra emotional right now

I haven't done much more on the music thing, my phone is really old and has no memory space left (no apps left to delete either just necessary stuff like contacts etc ) so can't even pop a voice note up - if I could figure out how to upload something of that nature in the first place I think maybe I'll have the best chance of success with one of the websites like the one @Katie8ee Linked to earlier maybe one day I'll figure it out and manage to upload it

BIB I so relate! Either that or have your time again but retain all your memories so I could do it right this time... I'd probably make most of the mistakes again!

If you can afford it, check out some of the cheaper phones online that specialise in extra storage. I wanted one with a good camera and a lot of storage to take photos of my boy, and my old one had such little storage that at 2 years old it was already full just from updates and I couldn't delete anything more. If you can't get a new phone, you can get flash drives or memory cards to add more storage.

Sending sympathy and hugs for the dreaded period!

 

[KindnessMatters]

I've also been accused of being an FM. This would be strange since Alice blocked me after I told her not to bully people (after her interview with Kyle Sandilands and Jackie O.

And her FMs have me blocked

So if that doesn't prove I'm not an FM then I don't know what will. I don't know which FM you thought I was, but if it was Pfizer Marcia...then I'm speechless.
If you don't like me because you think I'm the "moral police" or I "get on your tits" then I guess there's nothing I can do about that. I said in one of the threads recently that I don't have any friends in real life...I guess you can see why.

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

If you can afford it, check out some of the cheaper phones online that specialise in extra storage. I wanted one with a good camera and a lot of storage to take photos of my boy, and my old one had such little storage that at 2 years old it was already full just from updates and I couldn't delete anything more. If you can't get a new phone, you can get flash drives or memory cards to add more storage.

Sending sympathy and hugs for the dreaded period!

I'm a bit ashamed but I can't be arsed with a new phone It's an iPhone 4... I think I'll just crack on with this one till it breaks It does everything I need it to, text, phone and internet. Facetime and imessage are helpful because best mate and family have iPhones too - I get free text and calls but some of them don't.

The only thing that's getting a little irritating is that I have to take pictures with facebook messenger and then save them to my camera roll Apparently there is space to do it this way... but not with the actual camera I don't take a lot of pictures anyway so it's all cool!

Ooh ta for the flowers and the chocolates! I get a sweet tooth around now and flowers are always lovely!

I've also been accused of being an FM. This would be strange since Alice blocked me after I told her not to bully people (after her interview with Kyle Sandilands and Jackie O.
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And her FMs have me blocked

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So if that doesn't prove I'm not an FM then I don't know what will. I don't know which FM you thought I was, but if it was Pfizer Marcia...then I'm speechless.
If you don't like me because you think I'm the "moral police" or I "get on your tits" then I guess there's nothing I can do about that. I said in one of the threads recently that I don't have any friends in real life...I guess you can see why.

I at no point have said I thought you were Pfizer
Emotionally manipulating people with comments like this BIB is not appreciated at all

That's me! No more reading your comments and replying from now.

ETA: ok I can't help myself for saying this but I'm actually really pissed off now...

I find it "interesting" that instead of talking about the points I brought up about misrepresentation you instead have:

Showing unasked for and unnecessary "proof" you aren't an FM/ of ID (can't be arsed checking that out at all sorry maybe someone else will be)

Hyperbolised what I have said by bringing the worst FM's name into this and ascribing a comparison/possible ID between you and her to me - which I have at no point even hinted at!

And then as I said attempted to emotionally manipulate those on this thread with the comment I bolded.

ETA: spelling and "* unasked for and unecessary/ of ID" from angry typing.

 

[Caitlyn130]

I said in one of the threads recently that I don't have any friends in real life...I guess you can see why.

Spoiler: Friendship stuff

I saw this post and meant to respond to it.

I can actually relate to this a lot. I moved back to the UK from the US about 10 years ago and having not been to university here, but in the US, I didn't have that friendship group like most people. I made most of my friends through dance classes and for a while I had a nice little gang. But one by one they dropped off - moved to the suburbs and got married, moved to another country/their home country, just dropped off the radar altogether until only a small handful was left. Then I joined a dance company with extremely long rehearsal hours and that became my life (and my friendship group). I was so happy and having tons of fun. But after two years, the physical demand got too much and I left. And I never heard from one of those 'friends' again. Not a single one. When I left the company, I was disowned. Over the next few years, I struggled to maintain friendships, probably a perfect storm of ADHD, life stage, nature of living in a big city.

I have always found it a lot more difficult here than in the US. I'm still friends with my college friends. I have another group of American friends who I do a zoom call with every week and we do a yearly meet up. On my down days where I realise that I have close to 0 friends in London, I remember that I have a couple of great groups in the U.S.

I suppose it's a roundabout way of saying that I hope you don't feel it reflects on you as a person. Life circumstances sometimes just see us ending up with a small - or non existent - group. It's nothing that can't be worked on. I don't know how old you are and you don't have to say, but have you tried Bumble? They have a 'friend' version, it's not just for dating. There so many options to socialise, but it's like dating in a way - you have to put yourself out there and stay consistent, and not get discouraged when one or two fall through, just keep going until something sticks!

 

[KindnessMatters]

Since @GoLibrarianPoo has me blocked she won't see this, but the last comment she complained about (where I addressed people not having to experience abuse first hand to know it was bad wasn't even a comment that was aimed at her. It was a generic post I made to no one in particular explaining that IMO we don't have to have children to know how children should be raised, and we don't have to have experience of abuse to have an opinion that either. I included it to show that has been my attitude all along. She said she never trusted me from my first post, which is her choice, but I have no control over whether people like me or not. If I've 'liked' posts that she or others don't agree with, that happens. Situations are multi dimensional, not black and white, and sometimes you like part of what someone says but not all of it. People have repeatedly said this isn't an echo chamber where we all pat each other on the back for having different opinions and getting along. It obviously isn't. So if you genuinely don't like me could you please do me the favour of saying why (so I can learn from it) and just let me know and I will leave.

 

[clarkees]

I've also been accused of being an FM. This would be strange since Alice blocked me after I told her not to bully people (after her interview with Kyle Sandilands and Jackie O.
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So if that doesn't prove I'm not an FM then I don't know what will. I don't know which FM you thought I was, but if it was Pfizer Marcia...then I'm speechless.
If you don't like me because you think I'm the "moral police" or I "get on your tits" then I guess there's nothing I can do about that. I said in one of the threads recently that I don't have any friends in real life...I guess you can see why.

I’m trying to mediate this just because I don’t want people feeling bad, but I wouldn’t necessarily say that I’ve deemed you the moral police (I know this wasn’t directed at me but hear me out!). I think sometimes that kindness can present as toxic positivity, this is only my opinion though. I think a lot of people have felt emotive towards this situation due to their personal experiences so there are people who will meet it with exclusively non-positive feelings. I understand why you think kindness is key, but for some that isn’t the case - myself included. From my perception, you’ve tried to keep positive exclusively which is to an extent can be seen and felt as tone policing and almost lessening others experiences because they’re not allowed to have a certain type of emotion towards it. However, this is the last want to discuss it as it’s not what this thread is intended for and we’ve been warned by Mods before.
@GoLibrarianPoo I hope you don’t think I’m crossing a line saying this, I just wanted to support you whilst trying to get cards on the table of my perception.
@KindnessMatters please don’t take this as an attack, I’m trying to be constructive and honest but words are not my strong point!

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

Not at all @clarkees you are as entitled to an opinion as I am and I think you make a lot of good points in your post

ETA: personally I think there's a bit more to it but I do agree with you

 

[KindnessMatters]

I'm a bit ashamed but I can't be arsed with a new phone It's an iPhone 4... I think I'll just crack on with this one till it breaks It does everything I need it to, text, phone and internet. Facetime and imessage are helpful because best mate and family have iPhones too - I get free text and calls but some of them don't.

The only thing that's getting a little irritating is that I have to take pictures with facebook messenger and then save them to my camera roll Apparently there is space to do it this way... but not with the actual camera I don't take a lot of pictures anyway so it's all cool!

Ooh ta for the flowers and the chocolates! I get a sweet tooth around now and flowers are always lovely!



I at no point have said I thought you were Pfizer
Emotionally manipulating people with comments like this BIB is not appreciated at all

That's me! No more reading your comments and replying from now.

ETA: ok I can't help myself for saying this but I'm actually really pissed off now...

I find it "interesting" that instead of talking about the points I brought up about misrepresentation you instead have:

Showing unasked for and unnecessary "proof" you aren't an FM/ of ID (can't be arsed checking that out at all sorry maybe someone else will be)

Hyperbolised what I have said by bringing the worst FM's name into this and ascribing a comparison/possible ID between you and her to me - which I have at no point even hinted at!

And then as I said attempted to emotionally manipulate those on this thread with the comment I bolded.

ETA: spelling and "* unasked for and unecessary/ of ID" from angry typing.

For the love of all that is good the Pfizer comment was a joke and it wasn't even aimed at you. Several people have said they had suspicions I was an FM it was addressing the issue, no one in particular.

The BIB wasn't said for sympathy points, it's genuine. I can't remember who, but a few of us on the MT said we don't have friends in real life, and I was one of them. I really don't have any friends, I've tried to work out why and have no idea because nobody tells me what's wrong with me or what I'm doing wrong. So I genuinely do want to know what I'm doing wrong so I can work on it. I'd actually like to have friends and whatever I'm doing (IRL) obviously isn't working, so it was a sincere request for help.

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

I'm sorry @clarkees I am so terrible for editing I hate doing it when people have already reacted because I worry they'll disagree with my edits and feel bad changing their reaction so please everyone if I do this and it changes your view don't feel bad for changing your reactions to my post

 

[clarkees]

I'm sorry @clarkees I am so terrible for editing I hate doing it when people have already reacted because I worry they'll disagree with my edits and feel bad changing their reaction so please everyone if I do this and it changes your view don't feel bad for changing your reactions to my post

I understand! I think I was trying to neatly summarise but I am so useless at words it’s just… blergh haha

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

Since @GoLibrarianPoo has me blocked she won't see this, but the last comment she complained about (where I addressed people not having to experience abuse first hand to know it was bad wasn't even a comment that was aimed at her. It was a generic post I made to no one in particular explaining that IMO we don't have to have children to know how children should be raised, and we don't have to have experience of abuse to have an opinion that either. I included it to show that has been my attitude all along. She said she never trusted me from my first post, which is her choice, but I have no control over whether people like me or not. If I've 'liked' posts that she or others don't agree with, that happens. Situations are multi dimensional, not black and white, and sometimes you like part of what someone says but not all of it. People have repeatedly said this isn't an echo chamber where we all pat each other on the back for having different opinions and getting along. It obviously isn't. So if you genuinely don't like me could you please do me the favour of saying why (so I can learn from it) and just let me know and I will leave.

BIB FFS stop twisting my words please thank you! I have never said this.

ETA: I did say this in this thread earlier actually! I however only voiced that suspicion recently here! So you're lurking in here gathering info? Don't answer that it was rhetorical.

I have multiple times been kind and welcoming to you. At the start even when people were vocally suspicious of you, I gave you the benefit of the doubt! Further in I disagreed with your view of us as closing ranks on Newbies by referencing this and you have agreed I was kind and welcoming to you

You quoted me by saying "have you ever experienced abuse??????" when I had asked (sort of) that question but absolutely not in that way!

I understand! I think I was trying to neatly summarise but I am so useless at words it’s just… blergh haha

You are not! That was very articulate and well put And they were good points too!

Gah I can barely type I am having rage shake hands... I'm going to make the dog his dinner

 

[KindnessMatters]

I’m trying to mediate this just because I don’t want people feeling bad, but I wouldn’t necessarily say that I’ve deemed you the moral police (I know this wasn’t directed at me but hear me out!). I think sometimes that kindness can present as toxic positivity, this is only my opinion though. I think a lot of people have felt emotive towards this situation due to their personal experiences so there are people who will meet it with exclusively non-positive feelings. I understand why you think kindness is key, but for some that isn’t the case - myself included. From my perception, you’ve tried to keep positive exclusively which is to an extent can be seen and felt as tone policing and almost lessening others experiences because they’re not allowed to have a certain type of emotion towards it. However, this is the last want to discuss it as it’s not what this thread is intended for and we’ve been warned by Mods before.
@GoLibrarianPoo I hope you don’t think I’m crossing a line saying this, I just wanted to support you whilst trying to get cards on the table of my perception.
@KindnessMatters please don’t take this as an attack, I’m trying to be constructive and honest but words are not my strong point!

Thank you for your insight. I genuinely do want to know what I'm doing wrong because since I don't have any friends I can't ask them, and if you ask family they always say something nice just to make you feel better, when all I really want to know is where I'm going wrong (because I obviously am). I really appreciate your comments about how my 'kindness' attitude undermines other peoples feelings, I didn't know that. When I made the username it was because Welp had (accidentally) put my real name, my photo and my twitter handle up in here. I know she wouldn't do it on purpose because she's a very nice person and I've never held it against her. But people here were laughing at the fact that AE supporters were bullying me and thought it was hilarious #TeamAlice were eating their own. Not all were like that, but some were and they were quite cruel. So that's what made me put "Kindness Matters" as my name, in the hopes it would help people remember there were real people they were attacking. But I never meant for it to follow through on my posts to insinuate that people had to always be kind and never be angry or hurt. I (still) live in a sometimes abusive relationship, and can see some of AE's behaviour in them, sometimes nowhere near as bad as her, and sometimes much worse. So I've always been anti abuse, and if anything this group has actually helped me realise some of the things I've been through were abuse, when I'd thought they were normal. So if I have made anyone here (or anyone on the MT who drops in here and sees this) feel like I was telling them how to feel I sincerely apologise. I focus on trying to be a better person (which is why I asked for help) and I also try and be a kinder person, like Martin Luther King (my hero) or Thich Hnat Nahn, or the Dalai Lama, not in the toxic positivity way (I f*cking hate "inspirational quotes) but in a genuine aim at being a better person. So thank you for telling me what you did. And I hope no one gets in trouble for helping me because it's help I asked for

 

[Caitlyn130]

I've never really had a feeling of toxic positivity from @KindnessMatters - maybe they have been a little more forgiving than I of some players & posters comments and actions but I have a terrible memory so it's likely you've ALL pissed me off at some point and I've forgotten about it!

On a serious note: part of the issue might be that sometimes giving the benefit of the doubt to others can seem like a diplomatic, empathetic thing to do, but if you've been on the receiving end of the comment in question it feels as though someone is being given a pass for saying something very hurtful. Is it possible that in this situation two different approaches have collided, but neither meant to cause harm?

If it's at all possible then it would be nice if everyone* who wants to take part in this thread feels welcome to do so. I have a feeling that we have more in common than divides us, even if it may take some time for that to become apparent. In the meantime if we need to approach some people with caution (I'm side-eyeing people of my own here too) then that sounds like a very valid thing to do.

*Except Alice.

 

[KindnessMatters]

Spoiler: Friendship stuff

I saw this post and meant to respond to it.

I can actually relate to this a lot. I moved back to the UK from the US about 10 years ago and having not been to university here, but in the US, I didn't have that friendship group like most people. I made most of my friends through dance classes and for a while I had a nice little gang. But one by one they dropped off - moved to the suburbs and got married, moved to another country/their home country, just dropped off the radar altogether until only a small handful was left. Then I joined a dance company with extremely long rehearsal hours and that became my life (and my friendship group). I was so happy and having tons of fun. But after two years, the physical demand got too much and I left. And I never heard from one of those 'friends' again. Not a single one. When I left the company, I was disowned. Over the next few years, I struggled to maintain friendships, probably a perfect storm of ADHD, life stage, nature of living in a big city.

I have always found it a lot more difficult here than in the US. I'm still friends with my college friends. I have another group of American friends who I do a zoom call with every week and we do a yearly meet up. On my down days where I realise that I have close to 0 friends in London, I remember that I have a couple of great groups in the U.S.

I suppose it's a roundabout way of saying that I hope you don't feel it reflects on you as a person. Life circumstances sometimes just see us ending up with a small - or non existent - group. It's nothing that can't be worked on. I don't know how old you are and you don't have to say, but have you tried Bumble? They have a 'friend' version, it's not just for dating. There so many options to socialise, but it's like dating in a way - you have to put yourself out there and stay consistent, and not get discouraged when one or two fall through, just keep going until something sticks!

Spoiler: Friendship

Here's hoping this spoiler works because honestly 99 per cent of the ones I try don't! Thank you so much for sharing all that with me, it really means a lot. I'm so sorry you've been through a similar situation too because from every post of yours I've read you seem like such a lovely, bright, intelligent and bitingly witty person I never would have imagined you'd have any problem with friendships. I think part of my problem is similar to your experiences. I went to one primary school (grades 1 to 7) then 4 high schools, 2 universities and a thing we have in Australia called TAFE to study computing in one school, and film and television in another. And thought I made friends at the schools they never really continued after I left.
I always wondered what I do wrong because most people seem to have friends from childhood, or at least some social circle, and I've never really been able to maintain any. It sometimes feels like they just put up with me when they have to and don't think about me again when I'm gone. But as I said I can't ask them if that's the case because they've moved on, had lives, jobs, marriages, children. And I've had nothing. I got sick 18 years ago and have had to live in 'lock down' conditions since. So I've only had one job, got sick, I'm single so I never got the chance to meet someone and fall in love, get married and have kids and live happily ever after. I live like it's Groundhog Day, every day, for 18 years. I wake up sick, watch tv or hop on the computer, go back to bed, repeat again and again. So literally the only people I get to meet are online, and as you can see here, it doesn't seem to go very well. I wish so much that I knew if it was me, and what I could change about me, what I'm doing wrong. Or if it's just a ce like you've got, where it's not you, it's just bad luck. Do you mind if I ask what kind of dance you do? I did ballet as a little girl (and found out I had flat feet!) and did it again at Adult Ed for fun.

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

I get what you're saying @Caitlyn130 but I find reading some of that above* to be (in my opinion) emotionally manipulative, gaslighting rubbish being directed (in my opinion) at me (in part) I don't find that ok at all.

I do have that user on ignore and maybe I just need to drop it at that and jump on myself heavily for reading the posts... but I actually feel like a safe space has been violated

I seriously considered leaving the thread myself today when I saw that little show ignored content and clicked to see who had joined. The only reason I didn't was because I refuse to be chased off - and I do feel like this is a subtle attempt to chase people away sorry

I'm not trying to be argumentative at all here, I hope it comes across in the way I intend it to, an explanation of why I for one am not comfortable with certain posters coming here

ETA: I do absolutely agree we have more in common than not but that only works if everyone comes to the table intending to play nice I've run out of ability to play nice now sorry x

ETA: tit! * not your stuff! Kindness' stuff.

I have a serious willpower problem.

So since you have outed yourself (I honestly had no idea who you were passed your username up till this point... and I'm not sure why we need to know your real identity but ok) You have said some pretty... interesting things at times

You've liked some questionable things:

Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #44 Ioan’s toothbrush has left the building!

"So Tone - he wants to take me to court for being 'abusive' to him for many years." — From Alice's Tweet I did some research and I suspect Alice was served with papers regarding a hearing for a DV Restraining Order. It would explain why Ioan was escorted by a sheriff (or off duty sheriff) to...

tattle.life

And sorry but your writing has shown some really not very nice or kind views about women from what I've been told, sincerely seek therapy for all of this ^ - I actually do mean that kindly. I don't think people hold these views without being damaged.

I don't think it excuses giving up your free thought or liking posts like the one you liked however.

 

[Caitlyn130]

I get what you're saying @Caitlyn130 but I find reading some of that above to be (in my opinion) emotionally manipulative, gaslighting rubbish being directed (in my opinion) at me (in part) I don't find that ok at all.

I do have that user on ignore and maybe I just need to drop it at that and jump on myself heavily for reading the posts... but I actually feel like a safe space has been violated

I seriously considered leaving the thread myself today when I saw that little show ignored content and clicked to see who had joined. The only reason I didn't was because I refuse to be chased off - and I do feel like this is a subtle attempt to chase people away sorry

I'm not trying to be argumentative at all here, I hope it comes across in the way I intend it to, an explanation of why I for one am not comfortable with certain posters coming here

ETA: I do absolutely agree we have more in common than not but that only works if everyone comes to the table intending to play nice I've run out of ability to play nice now sorry x

Well you're not going anywhere so that's that!

I totally hear you. I've had a handful of horrible experiences here and if some of those posters came to this thread I'd be silently raging. I've taken names! Including people who have 'liked' certain posts!




I certainly don't mean to invalidate your feelings at all and I'm so sorry if it seems like I am. Sometimes I think that when people explain their actions it actually makes it worse as things just continue to get misconstrued and lost in translation over the internet. Also, explaining can be seen as defending/justifying and so we go around in circles. Do you think that's played a part here?

 

[GoLibrarianPoo]

BIB Not at all @Caitlyn130

No personally I don't think that's what happened sorry

 

[Ena Sharples]

Apart from the humour, compasssion, interesting personal stories and all of A's wonderful wild tit, I have also learnt quite a bit about my self over these last months on here.

Some stuff has reasonated with me, some stuff has struck some of my preciously held 'value' nerves and some of it has been neither here nor there.

I get what you're saying @Caitlyn130 but I find reading some of that above* to be (in my opinion) emotionally manipulative, gaslighting rubbish being directed (in my opinion) at me (in part) I don't find that ok at all.

I do have that user on ignore and maybe I just need to drop it at that and jump on myself heavily for reading the posts... but I actually feel like a safe space has been violated

I seriously considered leaving the thread myself today when I saw that little show ignored content and clicked to see who had joined. The only reason I didn't was because I refuse to be chased off - and I do feel like this is a subtle attempt to chase people away sorry

I'm not trying to be argumentative at all here, I hope it comes across in the way I intend it to, an explanation of why I for one am not comfortable with certain posters coming here

ETA: I do absolutely agree we have more in common than not but that only works if everyone comes to the table intending to play nice I've run out of ability to play nice now sorry x

ETA: tit! * not your stuff! Kindness' stuff.

I have a serious willpower problem.

So since you have outed yourself (I honestly had no idea who you were passed your username up till this point... and I'm not sure why we need to know your real identity but ok) You have said some pretty... interesting things at timesView attachment 1015517
You've liked some questionable things:

Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #44 Ioan’s toothbrush has left the building!

"So Tone - he wants to take me to court for being 'abusive' to him for many years." — From Alice's Tweet I did some research and I suspect Alice was served with papers regarding a hearing for a DV Restraining Order. It would explain why Ioan was escorted by a sheriff (or off duty sheriff) to...

tattle.life

And sorry but your writing has shown some really not very nice or kind views about women from what I've been told, sincerely seek therapy for all of this ^ - I actually do mean that kindly. I don't think people hold these views without being damaged.

I don't think it excuses giving up your free thought or liking posts like the one you liked however.

Spoiler: Sheet Music

Is KM actually Tallulah - the one of the low slung jogging bottoms fame?

I feel like I've wandered into some kind of Telenovela and I can't keep up