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And it seems he asks these young girls to do his care as soon as they meet in person can you imagine going on a date with someone and then having to take them to the toilet it's just socially wrong even if you have been speaking for a long time I think it's also wrong how he automatically thought hannah would do his care it looks like his exes who done his care well they must've realised how hard it is and how ungrateful he is his care isn't as easy as he makes out he's like looking after a baby
I think they love each other but yes, in his position I would constantly worry that she wouldn't stay, and I also wouldn't see her as a bad person if she left. Not because he's not worthy in some way, just because it's a HUGE undertaking. She is a pretty selfless person!
 
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I do have to wonder what her parents think, knowing she's sort of tied down like she is - to caregiving I mean. Sometimes you can't help it and that life chooses you, but to choose it for yourself is a whole new ballgame. Unless you're into that kind of thing I guess!
 
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I do have to wonder what her parents think, knowing she's sort of tied down like she is - to caregiving I mean. Sometimes you can't help it and that life chooses you, but to choose it for yourself is a whole new ballgame. Unless you're into that kind of thing I guess!
Hannah's mom has a big, vacant, stupid grin on her face all the time. So IDK, she might be living in lala-land just like Hannah. Hannah's dad has barely been in the videos and he's very old, apparently around 80 (just got to thinking, maybe Hannah was drawn to Shane because she grew up seeing her mom help her dad with things since he was always so much older?) I would be curious to know what Hannah's brothers (who have children of their own) think, especially since Hannah's said in an early video that she expects them to help out if she ever gets sick and Shane needs care...

I'm sure they know that Hannah is stubborn as an ox and there's no changing her mind on anything anyway so all they can do is just support her.
 
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Haven't watched their new video yet but seriously the click bait titles and the thumb nail it's like cringey soft porn unfortunately they know that sex sells they will both do anything for money both disgusting with no morals
 
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Hannah's mom has a big, vacant, stupid grin on her face all the time. So IDK, she might be living in lala-land just like Hannah. Hannah's dad has barely been in the videos and he's very old, apparently around 80 (just got to thinking, maybe Hannah was drawn to Shane because she grew up seeing her mom help her dad with things since he was always so much older?) I would be curious to know what Hannah's brothers (who have children of their own) think, especially since Hannah's said in an early video that she expects them to help out if she ever gets sick and Shane needs care...

I'm sure they know that Hannah is stubborn as an ox and there's no changing her mind on anything anyway so all they can do is just support her.
I think it's VERY selfish and unfair of her to expect that her married with children brothers should drop everything in their lives to help Hannah chase after Shane.

Like you said, she is stubborn and all they can do is support her, but for her to expect them to drop everything for Shane is ridiculous.

That proposal was total BS. Really her graduation Shane. What a great way for a narcissist to derail her special day that she worked for. And he did it by telling her that he had to puke. Oh boy.

I guess a piece of a man is better than no man at all.......
 
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Um so unless I'm blind IMO Hannah got a nose job at some point... interesting. It's a completely different structure now, much more chiseled. Pretty sure she got it done before college; I remember thinking her nose looked really different in a photo that was posted from her gap year on the Carleton website but it was kind of far away. I will say, her surgeon did a great job. Also looks like her forehead used to protrude more and her eyes were more deep-set with less lid space; not sure if she got them done too but I wouldn't be surprised.
 

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Um so unless I'm blind IMO Hannah got a nose job at some point... interesting. It's a completely different structure now, much more chiseled. Pretty sure she got it done before college; I remember thinking her nose looked really different in a photo that was posted from her gap year on the Carleton website but it was kind of far away. I will say, her surgeon did a great job. Also looks like her forehead used to protrude more and her eyes were more deep-set with less lid space; not sure if she got them done too but I wouldn't be surprised.
Why do those pictures look so photoshopped like the background
 
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Why do those pictures look so photoshopped like the background
Hannah and her mom went on a tour of Europe many years ago. You can see them in Liz's public facebook photos for yourself; they're the oldest ones. Monuments tend to look photoshopped in if the person is standing very close to the camera and very far from the monument.
 
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She probably did get something done to her nose. However, I will say that while I have a big nose it has actually shrunk with age. It looked much bigger when I was in my teens and 20s than it does now at the age of 40. Perhaps that is part of it too.

I actually think she looks a bit ill in their latest stretching video. I hope she isn't worn out from the constant pressure of caring.
 
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She probably did get something done to her nose. However, I will say that while I have a big nose it has actually shrunk with age. It looked much bigger when I was in my teens and 20s than it does now at the age of 40. Perhaps that is part of it too.

I actually think she looks a bit ill in their latest stretching video. I hope she isn't worn out from the constant pressure of caring.
The nose definitely can change to some degree but it doesn't completely change naturally from a very bulbous tip to a chiseled one ever, and especially not within 5 years. I'm pretty confident that she had it done. And there's nothing wrong with that btw, but comparing those photos to this... it's just a different nose.

I did see a few comments under the latest video saying that Hannah seemed different. Personally, I HOPE she feels burnt out from caregiving early on so she can really make an educated decision on the relationship and self-care before she jumps in super deep with the wedding and babies. No one is superhuman; no one can be perfectly fairytale happy with doing everything for their partner 24/7 unless they are neglecting their own needs and self-care. She is still so young and needs to really understand her true limits. I saw someone with a masters in counseling comment that they were concerned about Hannah doing all his care and seeming so stressed.
 
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Even if she is ill and burnt out ( I'm not suprised if she is ) she wouldn't admit it as you know caring for Shane is so easy and she enjoys it all aspects of Shanes care she is happy doing and jr never makes her tired .. she seems more snappier than usual though she is definitely burnt out she won't admit it and she won't tell shane she is as she doesn't want to hurt him
She probably did get something done to her nose. However, I will say that while I have a big nose it has actually shrunk with age. It looked much bigger when I was in my teens and 20s than it does now at the age of 40. Perhaps that is part of it too.

I actually think she looks a bit ill in their latest stretching video. I hope she isn't worn out from the constant pressure of caring.
No offence but that photo of hannah screammmms lesbian vibes the photo of her at college
The nose definitely can change to some degree but it doesn't completely change naturally from a very bulbous tip to a chiseled one ever, and especially not within a few years. I'm pretty confident that she had it done. And there's nothing wrong with that btw, but comparing those photos to this... it's just a different nose.

I did see a few comments under the latest video saying that Hannah seemed different. Personally, I HOPE she feels burnt out from caregiving early on so she can really make an educated decision on the relationship and self-care before she jumps in super deep with the wedding and babies. No one is superhuman; no one can be perfectly fairytale happy with doing everything for their partner 24/7 unless they are neglecting their own needs and self-care. She is still so young and needs to really understand her true limits.
 
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I've been silently reading here a lot and am glad this thread is much more active than GG. I'd just like to say she looked INCREDIBLY pissed off in the latest video! She will for sure crack, and I'm giving it another three months or so. They've been very passive aggressive with each other more so in these past 3 videos! I doubt they'll make it to the wedding, and if they do I can see it annulled within 6 months.
 
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I've been silently reading here a lot and am glad this thread is much more active than GG. I'd just like to say she looked INCREDIBLY pissed off in the latest video! She will for sure crack, and I'm giving it another three months or so. They've been very passive aggressive with each other more so in these past 3 videos! I doubt they'll make it to the wedding, and if they do I can see it annulled within 6 months.
Really? Oh, I should go watch!
 
I've been silently reading here a lot and am glad this thread is much more active than GG. I'd just like to say she looked INCREDIBLY pissed off in the latest video! She will for sure crack, and I'm giving it another three months or so. They've been very passive aggressive with each other more so in these past 3 videos! I doubt they'll make it to the wedding, and if they do I can see it annulled within 6 months.
Welcome! Yeah, guru gossip takes approximately a full lifetime to load so I never post there anymore
 
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I think now is the time to be watching their videos. You can see their interactions getting progressively worse. Shane's legs also look very fragile, I thought Hannah was going to break them at around 7:56
 
it looks like the burn out is real .. maybe she's finally seeing sense that she is just a slave to this obnoxious man child who's a narcissist but gets away with it . If I was shane I would litrally get ready for her to leave him one more horrible comment from him and she may just see sense and leave for someone better if I was shane I would always have the constant worry she was going to leave
 
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quarantine prob got them on eachothers nerves. Theres going to be a breaking point (grabs popcorn)
 
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lol their latest video is them "debunking" all of the ways people say that Hannah is giving up her life to give with him. Because, you know, Hannah graduated from college so she didn't give up anything obviously.

To prove that they each make compromises in the relationship Shane actually has to audacity to say "well I love breweries and Hannah doesn't like beer so we don't get to go to them as much as I'd like."

Hannah NEVER gets to wake up the time she wants (it's always a compromise, even on the weekends apparently); she probably has to turn him at night; she has to wipe the butt of her fiance every day; she can't be held or cuddled; she has to dress him and bathe him and brush his teeth; she has to do all the cooking and cleaning; she has to do all the yardwork; she has to do all the driving and probably sacrifice her back in the longrun and this a-hole literally says he gave up something as ~important~ as a brewery hobby to be with her and omg things are so equal.

Delusional. I actually feel bad for Hannah because she is so so oblivious to her own needs and the kind of men that are way funnier than Shane, smarter and active that would be happy to date her.

Do you think Hannah understands that Shane would never be with her if the roles were reversed and she were the one with SMA? She is so self-righteous yet apparently is so blind that she can't see that Shane's character doesn't live up to her strict values.

WOAH, this comment on the video is amazing (and I swear I didn't write it lol):

"I think assuming the "us against the world" mentality that compells you to feel you have to "defend" the relationship has a downside, and that is that you're so ready to debunk these notions that you're not considering why it is that so many people would be making the same comment (albeit some less elegantly than others). It's not that the love isn't real and Shane isn't a great person. You may not even necessarily miss the adventures of being single and unencumbered in your 20s. It's that you've just graduated from an incredible school and your entire professional orientation is about being part of this relationship. It's that you may fight so hard to provie it's all good, that when it's not you're unwilling or unable to make the changes that will help you to truly have an identity and career that is your own. People say these things because they have some insight. I hope, at least privately, you think some of it through. You can have both, but you need to kind of grow up and acknowledge that you are demonstrably making serious tradeoffs and you don't owe anyone explanations at all but you owe it to yourself to realize Shane has his own fairly obvious reasons for not encouraging you to think through these things with more nuance."
 
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