No one should be standing outside these places intimidating the women who trying to enter, when they’re already going through a deeply traumatic time. Strangely it’s always Evangelical Christian’s (usually men) who do so, I‘ve not heard of Muslims doing the same. I’m prepared to be told I’m wrong though
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Someone in my community is facing deportation because he lost his right to sponsorship and his passport and permit were revoked so he can't apply for further sponsorship.
He used to study here and during lockdown delivered essential items on foot to vulnerable members of the community.
Are these the people who those surveyed want deporting? What about someone who has been here for years but messes up their paper work? Or is taken ill and misses a deadline?
I mean it’s a shame that happened to the person in your community, but essentially, yes. He is now illegal in the country so of course he must be deported.
There are mitigating circumstances and an appeals process, but at the end of the day I don’t think you can be against deporting illegal immigrants just because of a few unfortunate anomalies.
Big difference between harassing someone and sitting quietly and silently praying in an area near an abortion clinic.
Some extreme Far Right organisations are already proscribed meaning they are currently being monitored. That’s a far cry from people having opinions that others don’t like, in a free society.
We have to keep the extra measures for the extremes.
This isn't normal practice though? Generally Muslims pray in private.
Ive never seen this on the scale of your second video, but the first video I’ve seen similar on Oxford street in London quite a lot.
Normally they have tables with leaflets on the Quran too. I’ve never stopped to talk as I’ve no real interest in Islam as a faith but I do find them less intimidating than the JW’s etc who try and shove the leaflets in my face and then moan if I don’t take them. And a lot more approachable than the Christian’s of unknown denomination who set up microphones and scream about the blood of Jesus on random high streets around London
Ideally, as a lapsed Catholic who identifies as an atheist
I’d rather all displays of worship kept behind closed doors.As do Christians. Why should that be tolerated but a woman praying in silence not be? If she was just standing there in silence then what is the bleeping problem? I agree that an abortion is a traumatic experience but it isn’t like she is one of these ones shouting calling women baby killers or showing photos etc. either we allow people to hold their beliefs or we don’t.
The only reason they’re not actually harassing people is because they’ve been stopped from doing so.
If prayer is their only objective why don’t they duck off and do it somewhere else?
Don't worry you'll still be able to pray in public! Just maybe not within the abortion clinic buffer zone.
There’s holding beliefs and there’s imposing beliefs.
The woman won her case
UK police pay Catholic woman £13K for wrongful arrest over silent prayer
british police have paid £13,000 in compensation to a catholic woman who was wrongfully arrested for praying silently outside an abortion cl...
catholicherald.co.uk
Last sentence of the article should concern everyone
Yes, he's going through the appeals process now.
I don't think you should be against it because of the anomalies, but I think the process should be that there are no anomalies to begin with. If someone isn't notified that their visa is invalid by the Home Office and then suddenly finds that they're illegal that's so unfair.
Ok, this is in Canada, but think it would be different if it was ‘Just stop Oil.
torontosun.com
Prayer, a way of publicly doing what you want when other methods have failed.
WARMINGTON: Prayer service in busy downtown intersection not against the law
A Muslim mass prayer service shut down one of Canada’s busiest intersections last Saturday, but cops say no laws were violated.
Prayer, a way of publicly doing what you want when other methods have failed.
I’m not religious and not a fan of public prayer myself but don’t really think someone standing in silence is worth police time. If she was engaging to women walking in or telling them they are going to hell etc then I think fair enough that was harassment but if she was just standing in silence would someone even notice?
"Pro-life thought" wasn't prosecuted though - it was because she was in a buffer zone. It's extremely sad we have to have safe access zones created around abortion clinics but that would be the fault of those who choose to protest outside them.The woman won her case
UK police pay Catholic woman £13K for wrongful arrest over silent prayer
british police have paid £13,000 in compensation to a catholic woman who was wrongfully arrested for praying silently outside an abortion cl...
Last sentence of the article should concern everyone
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Can you be arrested by just being in the buffer zone? I didn't realise that.
Oh come on, I am forever tripping over these Muslims, popping up praying!
You'd think they would stick to their mosques...you know where they are safe!
It wasn't for her thoughts that she was being prosecuted, she was accused of breaching a Public Places Protection Order, is my point. I'm not sure if people can be arrested for just being in the vicinity but protests and vigils aren't allowed (in Scotland anyway, as I understand it).
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