Southport Attacks and Aftermath #4

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You highlighted the ‘think’ part. There’s plenty on the far left that ‘think’ certain things and then there are plenty that go out rioting. Thinking isn’t a bleeping crime yet thankfully. Although it sort of seems like you believe people who you deem to be ‘far right’ should be locked up for wrong think.
Where did I write thinking was a crime?
 
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Where did I write thinking was a crime?
I never said you said it was a crime but I think your post was bizarre in that you highlighted that you basically believe people are thinking the wrong way. Otherwise why would you have highlighted that word?
 
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I never said you said it was a crime
Really?

Although it sort of seems like you believe people who you deem to be ‘far right’ should be locked up for wrong think.

Otherwise, why would you have highlighted that word?
Because Monga suggested the people who have been charged and arrested were the minority of the rioters with far right views. My point was just because they didn't arrest all the rioters, doesn't mean more of them don't hold far right views.

My point was being far right is about the way you think, not just what you do.
 
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Because Monga suggested the people who have been charged and arrested were the minority of the rioters with far right views. My point was just because they didn't arrest all the rioters, doesn't mean more of them don't hold far right views.

My point was being far right is about the way you think, not just what you do.
It also doesn’t mean they do! It wasn’t billed as a far right demo many people including children were in attendance.
 
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Because Monga suggested the people who have been charged and arrested were the minority of the rioters with far right views. My point was just because they didn't arrest all the rioters, doesn't mean more of them don't hold far right views.

My point was being far right is about the way you think, not just what you do.
I said “it sort of seems”.

Bit in bold- what do you want to happen to the people who are thinking like whatever you are saying is far right?
I assume you think @monga and I are far right.

My personal views are that rioters should obviously be prosecuted but people are entitled to think whatever they want.
You can’t just claim anyone who is slightly critical of immigration to be far right to try to shut down a conversation.
 
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I said “it sort of seems”.

Bit in bold- what do you want to happen to the people who are thinking like whatever you are saying is far right?
I assume you think @monga and I are far right.

My personal views are that rioters should obviously be prosecuted but people are entitled to think whatever they want.
You can’t just claim anyone who is slightly critical of immigration to be far right to try to shut down a conversation.
That’s exactly why the county’s in this mess .Starmers got five yrs to dig a bigger hole for himself by trying to shut down public opinion people will be driven to the parties that want to give them a voice.
 
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You weren’t describing rioters. You were having a go at people who THINK the wrong way.
I don’t know why people are fixated on the rioters 😐 they’re only a very small part of a very big picture.
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We've only just had an election, he doesn't need to attempt to win rioters votes right now 🤷‍♀️
But even if he did, he'd be making a mistake because that's literally what they want -

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Good grief isn’t that what I’ve been saying for the past x amount of posts…Maybe I haven’t explained it well enough??
 
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God forgive anyone commits the crime of thinking the wrong things.
I’m assuming you think it’s correct that we have a police section dedicated to counter terrorism and extremism though? Because effectively that’s targeted those people that do think the wrong things and go on to commit violence out of it…ya know, like those people that genuinely thought it was ok to try set fire to hotel with people inside. That makes whatever “point” they’re trying to make, mute.

Would you support a way, if possible, to intercept these people even earlier? At the point they’re being radicalised? Or the person spreading misinformation that causes this indoctrination? Because I would…a lot of crime, especially that against women and children stems from an underlaying misogynists opinion.
The fact that a lot of these rioters/protesters present at these incidents had previous with police and some for domestic violence…so no, I won’t believe that they genuinely were there because they cared about those children or “our women and children” as they shouted at that hotel when half of them commit violence against women themselves. It’s more likely that racism drove those behaviours.

Of course you can think the level of immigration is unmanageable and things need to change. That doesn’t mean you’re “far right”.

Just like pointing out what that the current asylum system covers isn’t being “far left”. It’s explaining to people that a lot of this is already in place so what else can we do?

Some people have offered some really good suggestions from both ends of the argument on here, but the arguing and sniping isn’t enjoyable
 
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Looks like we are already there with silent prayer
You don't think this is a good thing?

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"The Home Office has put out proposals for consultation but has not said explicitly which parts of the current guidance could change."
 
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Was referring to your previous post about people thinking the wrong things.
Did I say it was wrong or did I say it was far right?

You're splitting hairs over something I didn't even say...

Was it? And just because they didn't cause any damage to property or people doesn't exactly mean they don't think in a far right way. As we know, many far right people stayed home and egged on the rioters.
 
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The government can hardly be described as far right, yet their policies are to tightening up immigration controls and increase deportations.
A large proportion of the UK population agree with this, with some wanting to go even further.
Any who think these riots are solely reflective of the ‘far right’ and that only ‘far right’ people ‘think’ this way are deluding themselves.
 
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Good, this should be banned. No woman who chooses to have an abortion should be guilt tripped by these bible bashing nut jobs.
I agree with people not being abused but standing in silence is hardly an issue? Can we ban Muslim public prayers too please? Or is that not inclusive?
 
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