Sarah Everard

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People don't care, both me and later my friend were assaulted in broad day light in crowded surroundings (as school age girls). I did the "right thing" by hiding in a shop, but he just waited outside and did it again. In that situation shouting the "right thing" would have been impossible, I was just too struck by fear and shock and didn't want to "make a scene" thinking he would eventually stop.

Why should women have to spend our lives "on guard" or "doing the right thing" and then questioning if we could have prevented something or are we seen as reckless for doing something a man wouldn't give a second thought too. At school we had to go to and from in a group, we know to keep on guard if we sense someone is following us, to make sure no one goes home unaccounted for etc etc etc.

The past year, women's rights have taken a back seat and feminism is even used as a slur and you are a bigot if you question biological men being allowed into women's shelters, toilets and prisons, but a man who transitions has never grew up living like this. The discussion here, and in the media is highlighting more needs to be done to safeguard women.

I wonder if the sad little man who took this ladies life also exploited lockdown, telling her that "okay you have broken the rules, it's dark, so let's get you home" after flashing his badge. I spoke about this earlier with someone and we agreed, if you were flashed a police badge then you just stop and comply. What a sad b that man is, at first I thought maybe the other police gave him that head injury out of anger of soiling the trust the public has in the police.
I mentioned this in another thread as a possible clue to what may have unfolded and got absolutely piled on as a victim shamer. But I'm almost certain this is what happened. It's the only explanation for no struggle or screaming being noticed.
 
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'Not all men' is everywhere right now and it's completely taken me aback. It just demonstrates the level of the problem when this is the response of a huge amount of people after a woman was abducted and probably sexually assaulted and murdered by a serving police officer. My brain cannot unwrap this level of horror right now. But for people to respond to that by saying 'men kill men too' is just too much for me right now. I'm so bloody angry.
its boggling my mind too, i feel like guys who constantly jump to 'well not all men' are exactly the men being talked about and thats why they get so defensive and offended/ Then they jump to men kill men and cant see the common denominator in that?
 
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Like every other woman on this thread, I’ve got countless tales of inappropriateness, abuse & violation etc.

Not going to write about them because I can’t summon up the energy because like you I’m angry. One thing that’s been present throughout all the various incidents however, has been me over explaining myself. Me explaining why I did a certain thing or said something or didn’t say something. It always comes back to us to account for ourselves. As someone will always ask us why, like the responsibility lays at our door. It’s just another load we as women have to carry.

I’m tired of it.
 
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That foreign spouses are more vulnerable to domestic abuse? Sadly thats true and I stand by it. It may not be the case for this lady, but we’re here to discuss the possibilities.
She’s literally lived here since 2006 presumably. To call her a foreign spouse now is dumb. Huge difference between someone who speaks little to no English and likely has no support bubble or access to services and someone who is professional and can access support services.
Could she still have been abused? Yes. Is the fact that she’s not British make a difference? No it no longer does.
 
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its boggling my mind too, i feel like guys who constantly jump to 'well not all men' are exactly the men being talked about and thats why they get so defensive and offended/ Then they jump to men kill men and cant see the common denominator in that?
I never read comments on articles anymore because of it. There are so many times when a man killing his partner warrants a mention and below the article are the inevitable comments about how women can be domestic abusers as well and a lot of the times it is a woman commenting!! It honestly beggars belief.

Chatting to my friend last night we were discussing all of the things we have had happen to us down the years and one thing that really stuck out to me was that two of my scarier incidents (someone trying to get me in a van and another following me home in the dark) were two men who were both young and physically attractive. Men I would have been interested in if they'd chatted me up on a night out. To this day, that scares me.
 
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I think with the not all men thing - not all men are bad of course. But I can imagine a large amount of men whether intentionally or unintentionally have made women feel uncomfortable at some point. I run a lot and the sheer amount of vans who go past with men who stare or beep or shout something out is frankly a joke (especially because I’m a very red runner haha.) I don’t know what these men’s intentions are or if they think it’s a nice thing to do but it makes me so uncomfortable. It makes me think how many men do stuff like this perhaps without even realising they are doing it?
 
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I cant fathom how his wife didn't know anything. I never ever buy that.
In all honesty I think it’s easy to say that but small things slip because they’re “normal” behaviours or you assume something is just wrong, not that they’re a literal murderer
 
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I’m sorry I hope this does not come across the wrong way or offensive to anyone but for me

a “not all men” a witch
Is the same as an “all lives matter” a witch
 
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I cant fathom how his wife didn't know anything. I never ever buy that.
Perhaps that is why she was released. She cooperated and provided all the details about her husband weird behaviors or hobbies. ...and now they are searching all the buildings and homes. Also they must have tracked already from the phone all the locations he spent most of his time. It is so creepy. I hope they will find answers.
 
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News are reporting that ‘ police are refusing to comment as to whether the injuries he sustained in custody were self inflicted.’
 
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from my point of view, he probably has 'spent' convictions on his record that weren't held against him when being vetted / gaining clearance. He's likely to have lay low the past few years gaining positive connections / reputation within the force so he'd be least suspected. The indecent exposure was maybe to see how far he could push it - if they brushed it off and didn't dismiss him then he'd know they weren't taking it as seriously as they should. He took the opportunity to likely sexually assault Sarah, and then things went too far and he hurt / strangled her (deliberately or not). Disposing of her body on his way home, his mobile shows activity at the old paintball site, so he was definitely there. His wife may have thought the alibi was to do with another case of indecent exposure, or was scared by the way he was acting when he got home.

Tragic all round, I'm 18 and don't think I've been harassed thus far (kinda sad that i'm not 100% sure whether i've blocked tit out) but men don't exactly walk round with labels so it's better to be weary than naïve i guess.
 
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She’s literally lived here since 2006 presumably. To call her a foreign spouse now is dumb. Huge difference between someone who speaks little to no English and likely has no support bubble or access to services and someone who is professional and can access support services.
Could she still have been abused? Yes. Is the fact that she’s not British make a difference? No it no longer does.
I’m not talking about her now. I’m talking about the process of him seeking a foreign spouse all that time ago. Whether that was significant.
 
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News are reporting that ‘ police are refusing to comment as to whether the injuries he sustained in custody were self inflicted.’
Quite rightly so this is an active criminal investigation they need to be very careful about what information is given to the media last thing we want is to prejudice any future proceedings.
 
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I never read comments on articles anymore because of it. There are so many times when a man killing his partner warrants a mention and below the article are the inevitable comments about how women can be domestic abusers as well and a lot of the times it is a woman commenting!! It honestly beggars belief.

Chatting to my friend last night we were discussing all of the things we have had happen to us down the years and one thing that really stuck out to me was that two of my scarier incidents (someone trying to get me in a van and another following me home in the dark) were two men who were both young and physically attractive. Men I would have been interested in if they'd chatted me up on a night out. To this day, that scares me.
im really sorry to hear about your experiences thats terrifying! i would say it makes me feel lucky that ive never worried about walking home but it shouldnt be a thing of luck in how you were born its honestly depressing
 
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