I know exactly who you’re talking about and this guy was hugely disliked within his own force. I loathed him.Thinking of a certain West Country based ex armed response cop.
I know exactly who you’re talking about and this guy was hugely disliked within his own force. I loathed him.Thinking of a certain West Country based ex armed response cop.
They might not be so far wrong- the b who killed Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry in London thought he was making a pact with a demon. Or your friend might just be annoying IDK." I'm in a FB group of old school friends - all female. I posted about Sarah, explaining the circs for those not in the UK. One, a very right-on lawyer, thinks perhaps that piece of tit had been abused or tortured in childhood... I DONT CARE!! "
Sorry to quote myself from yesterday, but this person has just suggested, apparently in all seriousness, that satanic rituals were involved![]()
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She has a very strong sense of her own worth and is always sure she's right/knows more than anyone else. So I'm siding with 'prat' in this caseThey might not be so far wrong- the b who killed Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry in London thought he was making a pact with a demon. Or your friend might just be annoying IDK.
We all know one like that! And if you don’t it might be you...She has a very strong sense of her own worth and is always sure she's right/knows more than anyone else. So I'm siding with 'prat' in this case![]()
Why would she complain to the Met when they have done eff all about far more serious complaints over the years? She probably thought that it would just up the harassment.
Says it all, she didn’t even bother to complain.Why would she complain to the Met when they have done eff all about far more serious complaints over the years? She probably thought that it would just up the harassment.
Something similar happened to me in school when I was 12/13. I was bending over drinking from a water fountain. A friend of my brother’s aged about 9 came up behind me and pulled my school uniform skirt up over my back. I whirled around and smacked him. I didn’t get suspended but did have to go see the head so she could tell me off. I was furious.Reading all of these examples has just unearthed a memory for me. I was at school in the 70s/80s so it was not an easy time to be female full stop. We were in the queue for dinner and the boy in front of me turned round and grabbed my boobs with both hands. I did what my mum had always told me to do and I kneed him in the balls. He went down like a sack of potatoes, screaming. But guess who got suspended? Yep, 14-year-old me who had been sexually assaulted, not 15 year old him who had carried out the assault. Because I had hurt him physically, this was viewed as the behaviour that was unacceptable, nothing happened to him.
I remember being in clubs at uni and the same happening, a guy grabbing my boobs, I instinctively hit him and was thrown out of the club. I couldn;t work out why I hated uni so much (I went about 15 years ago) but the whole "lad culture" and sexism was SO awful then, I imagine it still exists now but hopefully less soSomething similar happened to me in school when I was 12/13. I was bending over drinking from a water fountain. A friend of my brother’s aged about 9 came up behind me and pulled my school uniform skirt up over my back. I whirled around and smacked him. I didn’t get suspended but did have to go see the head so she could tell me off. I was furious.
Boys in that school used to pull the horizontal bra straps of girls who were wearing them as they could be seen through the white blouses we had to wear. This frequently happened while seated in a classroom. I took to wearing a cardigan but kept getting told off by one teacher who even called my mother in to talk to her about the fact that I wouldn’t take the cardie off which she kept asking me to do. My mother put her straight, thankfully and she didn’t bother me again.
I think so many women have stories like this. I was walking up the stairs in a pub and had some guy walking behind me put his hand up my skirt. I pushed him away and he fell backwards because he was so drunk. I was thrown out for "causing a scene and pushing someone".I remember being in clubs at uni and the same happening, a guy grabbing my boobs, I instinctively hit him and was thrown out of the club. I couldn;t work out why I hated uni so much (I went about 15 years ago) but the whole "lad culture" and sexism was SO awful then, I imagine it still exists now but hopefully less so
Your relatives sound like honourable men. I am certainly not defending the behaviour then but it WAS the norm - or it was certainly my and my peers’ norm. Think about the TV we were brought up on in the 70s and 80s -Carry On, Benny Hill, Love thy Neighbour, Mind Your Language, I could go on and on. All of the “isms”and stereotypes were endemic. I was a teenager/young adult in the 80s and I literally cannot count the number of times I was grabbed, mauled, stroked, leered at, talked dirty to by men young and old (including relatives and friends of my parents) without permission. For example, Christmas Eve and New Years Eve were literally a fight to stop men young and old shoving their tongues down your throat. And yes, it was horrible then and it’s horrible now but the huge difference is that then society saw it as acceptable, thankfully today’s society is viewing this type of behaviour as more and more unacceptable.I was bought up by a man who insisted I treated everyone with respect, be they white, black, gay, straight, man, woman, Chief Executive, road sweeper, whatever.
I can't imagine assaulting anyone by grabbing bits of them (and it is assault) and thinking it's funny etc.
It also pisses me off that people defend this behaviour and that it the norm in the 50/60/70/80/90 and everyone did it. Erm, no they didn't. My dad and uncles certainly didn't. It was wrong then, and it's wrong now.
Yes, I'm sorry. I didn't word it well. It was certainly the norm, but my father and uncles would never do that. They had more respect for people than that.Your relatives sound like honourable men. I am certainly not defending the behaviour then but it WAS the norm - or it was certainly my and my peers’ norm. Think about the TV we were brought up on in the 70s and 80s -Carry On, Benny Hill, Love thy Neighbour, Mind Your Language, I could go on and on. All of the “isms”and stereotypes were endemic. I was a teenager/young adult in the 80s and I literally cannot count the number of times I was grabbed, mauled, stroked, leered at, talked dirty to by men young and old (including relatives and friends of my parents) without permission. For example, Christmas Eve and New Years Eve were literally a fight to stop men young and old shoving their tongues down your throat. And yes, it was horrible then and it’s horrible now but the huge difference is that then society saw it as acceptable, thankfully today’s society is viewing this type of behaviour as more and more unacceptable.
I think more than anything it was the men who didn’t stop their friends doing it, just thought it was “men being men” I remember in the late 2000s being flashed by men and neither my nor my friend’s boyfriend seeing it as anything other than flattering or a funny anecdoteYes, I'm sorry. I didn't word it well. It was certainly the norm, but my father and uncles would never do that. They had more respect for people than that.
One of my ex's told me recently that her ex husband had her by the throat because she wouldn't have sex with him when he was drunk. He told her that it was a man's right to have sex, and a woman didn't get a choice in it. hole.
Thank you for saying this. As a woman yes I have been sexually assaulted by men.I was bought up by a man who insisted I treated everyone with respect, be they white, black, gay, straight, man, woman, Chief Executive, road sweeper, whatever.
I can't imagine assaulting anyone by grabbing bits of them (and it is assault) and thinking it's funny etc.
It also pisses me off that people defend this behaviour and that it the norm in the 50/60/70/80/90 and everyone did it. Erm, no they didn't. My dad and uncles certainly didn't. It was wrong then, and it's wrong now.
I now have a niece and god daughters. Would I want them being groped or flashed etc.? No. So why would I do that to other women? A lot of men just can't get it through their thick skulls that the woman they are assaulting is someones daughter, or niece, and are not just a piece of meat for their 'entertainment'.Thank you for saying this. As a woman yes I have been sexually assaulted by men.
However the men in my family were wonderful men like the men in yours. If they had of witnessed any man disrespecting, touching or assaulting a women they would sort it out. And we have big men in our family so they probably got squashed.
She’s also her own person, who isn’t a piece of meat for their entertainment.I now have a niece and god daughters. Would I want them being groped or flashed etc.? No. So why would I do that to other women? A lot of men just can't get it through their thick skulls that the woman they are assaulting is someones daughter, or niece, and are not just a piece of meat for their 'entertainment'.
When I go out sometimes, I am still embarrassed to be a man by some of the behaviour of the gender I belong to.
Exactly.She’s also her own person, who isn’t a piece of meat for their entertainment.