I don’t get this, you’d like to think people in your life aren’t capable of doing stuff like this but here we are, he’s been charged with it so time you protected your grandchildren instead
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Tbf we all have a right to a fair trial, and if the defence or he felt like that wasn't given he can make an appeal and can go up to the European Court of Human Rights if the conditions are met
Think we'd all agree he is very likely to be a horrible person, sadly even horrible people deserve human rights
Exactly they have bigger fish to fry ffs!!!! X
But the difference is character references used in a trial make up part of the evidence and are supposed to be considered by the jury but if comments from strangers online assuming his guilt are contempt of court like people are saying then is the same not true the other way around? Comments online assuming his innocence could influence a jury to find him not guilty?
She said this before he was actually charged though, when he was just arrested on suspicion. It probably hadn’t sunk in, of course they would express disbelief if it seemed totally out of character for him. Just goes to show, you never really know a person or what they could be capable of.I don’t get this, you’d like to think people in your life aren’t capable of doing stuff like this but here we are, he’s been charged with it so time you protected your grandchildren instead
It's interesting to see how this conversation with the MIL has been covered
I have seen it go from 'insisting' to 'defending' when in reality it could be as simple as saying that her experience of him as a person is good
Granted, I think it's hard to come to terms with the fact that someone you know could have done something so horrible
Yes he was wanking. He later said to the WPC that he was standing 10 foot away and peeing into a corner and I must have been confused! Big difference to wanking by my passenger car window. This wasn't even mentioned in court. The awful thing was, after he was found guilty; his poor wife collapsed on the floor in someone's arms sobbing hysterically. I literally had to step over her. They had a 6 month old baby daughter. It was like the scales had just fell from her eyes, and she suddenly knew the truth. I've often thought of her, and hope she and her daughter are okay.
Oh you might be right, I missed that.
It's the fail god knows what she said. I see they're still running his wifes pic when other papers have covered her face.
But I don't understand why they would have character references from people in court. In my case, they were from 5 people who worked with him and knew him in the Church. How would they know what he does in his spare time? They just seem pointless to me, but I am willing to be educated. Also, could I not have character references saying I am not a liar? Neither are evidence.
Character references at trial??? Do you mean bad character evidence?
Bad Character Evidence | The Crown Prosecution Service
I agree with you. They're a load of balls, of course the family or friends of any suspect will say they're great. I don't know how much weight character references hold with a jury.
It wasn't me who mentioned character references. My comment was in response to another poster who compared his mother in laws comments to being the same as a character witnessCharacter references at trial??? Do you mean bad character evidence?
Bad Character Evidence | The Crown Prosecution Service
www.cps.gov.uk
Of course she would say that, she thinks he's a nice family man with a wife and kids. No one would suspect him but she doesn't know the real him. Wasn't Sarah seen in his car on bus cctv? How would she explain that then!
I know. Probs that he was being a good citizen giving her a lift home or something.
I really hope that through this horrific crime that an appropriate sentence is passed if he is found guilty. Too often crimes these days get given such lenient sentences especially ones involving male violence against women. It's about time the whole area was reviewed.
I can’t be the only one that saw him in one of the videos on EC’s YT channel?! Has anyone else seen it and assumed his stature would be completely different? I figured tall, slim, muscly guy but it looks as though he struggled to even lift his son in the play park?!
If I had been in Sarah’s position that night, I would never have believed he would cause me any harm so I completely understand her willingly getting in the car if that is what it transpires actually happened.
(just my opinion, and yes I know he is innocent until proven guilty)
If I had been in Sarah’s position that night, I would never have believed he would cause me any harm so I completely understand her willingly getting in the car if that is what it transpires actually happened.
(just my opinion, and yes I know he is innocent until proven guilty)
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Check my posts, I haven't.
I am tired of people saying in this thread that others are trying to police what they say. No one is trying to do that. All anyone I have seen try to do is to just educate on what contempt of court is. It's really important that Sarah gets justice. Comment away on the facts of the case, what has been made publicly available etc however please try to think of what benefit is going to come from posting about the accused in a way that presumes guilt.
I and others have shared links to the CPS & government websites which clearly states what contempt of court is. It's not that difficult to understand. Yes, it's unlikely someone is going to be pouring over these posts and reporting them to the defence so they can build an argument of an unfair trail but really, does anyone here really want to risk it? I don't.
I am not trying to police what people say. Yes, there is likely going to be comments made which are contempt of court all over the internet. There is no way to stop that. This case is HUGE and people have very strong feelings about it. But we are responsible for what is posted HERE and I don't want to add to the problem and I am sure others here don't want to add to it either.
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