Sara Sharif case

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I don’t know what to believe. The jury must be in pieces with this.

I originally thought it was US at fault for the injuries, but the more it goes on the more I wonder if he just chose to turn a blind eye and didn’t know exactly how bad it was.

But then experts testify that Sara would have been in severe pain and not able to move easily.

But then there’s apparently a video of her dancing within 24 hours of her death.

They need to get hold of the (missing) ring doorbell footage to see when he left for work and came back, to see if he genuinely didn’t see the children awake or not.

I can believe that BB lied about Sara having a period and her body changing, but to believe that your daughter needed a nappy?!

If your daughter dies and you suddenly discover your wife is ‘a psycho’, why do you leave the country with her? Why do you ask for an ambulance but never call one?

I think BB blamed Sara’s brother, and US wanted him safely out of the way. This would explain the dental imprints being provided by him.

I just cannot believe that neither he nor his brother had any idea.

I wish Sara’s brother could be spoken to. He could have given the true version, but now he’s been in Pakistan a year with his father’s family, so who knows what they’ve conditioned him to believe to be true now.
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There’s no way of being sure who did what. I hope the judge gives direction to the jury that all can be culpable of contributing to Sara’s death, but with no actual evidence of who did what it’s going to be a case of unpicking what they have got.
Urfan sounds fairly convincing, but we didn’t hear everything yet.
I noticed in the Heathrow check in photos that BB’s older kids seem to be two girls, and dressed very western.
 
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Urfan sounds fairly convincing, but we didn’t hear everything yet.
I noticed in the Heathrow check in photos that BB’s older kids seem to be two girls, and dressed very western.
Yes, I think 1, 2, 3 are girls.
4 I assume is Sara’s brother.
I thought they had 5 children, though. I can’t work out where a 5th is.

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Forgive me for not knowing; but he requested she had a Muslim funeral on that phone call, did this happen and would this affect tests/evidence the police could get biological or otherwise? Just wondered if they were trying to affect any evidence gathered.
 
It looks like the oldest boy is pushing the pram I’ll find another pic

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Looking at it again Beinash seems to be holding the baby from the pram the other seems out of shot as in this picture there is 2 of the children in black tops
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Forgive me for not knowing; but he requested she had a Muslim funeral on that phone call, did this happen and would this affect tests/evidence the police could get biological or otherwise? Just wondered if they were trying to affect any evidence gathered.
A Muslim funeral is done 24hrs after death with no embalming wrapped in kafan (it’s like a sheet ) facing the right so would practically be untouched please correct it I’m wrong
 

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Forgive me for not knowing; but he requested she had a Muslim funeral on that phone call, did this happen and would this affect tests/evidence the police could get biological or otherwise? Just wondered if they were trying to affect any evidence gathered.
It wouldn’t make a difference, except that she might get her post-mortem carried out a bit quicker.
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It looks like the oldest boy is pushing the pram I’ll find another pic

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Yeah the child all in black just couldn’t be seen in the earlier pics. And the big brother, presumably who BB accused of killing Sara is just holding hands and looking after the other kids.
 
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It looks like the oldest boy is pushing the pram I’ll find another pic

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Yes, I think the pram is for the babe in arms with BB though?
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Looking at it again Beinash seems to be holding the baby from the pram the other seems out of shot as in this picture there is 2 of the children in black tops
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A Muslim funeral is done 24hrs after death with no embalming wrapped in kafan (it’s like a sheet ) facing the right so would practically be untouched please correct it I’m wrong
Oh sorry I hadn’t read beyond your other post 🤦🏼‍♀️

Yes that child in black is the missing one, so there are 5, thank you
 
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I don’t know what to believe. The jury must be in pieces with this.

I originally thought it was US at fault for the injuries, but the more it goes on the more I wonder if he just chose to turn a blind eye and didn’t know exactly how bad it was.

But then experts testify that Sara would have been in severe pain and not able to move easily.

But then there’s apparently a video of her dancing within 24 hours of her death.

They need to get hold of the (missing) ring doorbell footage to see when he left for work and came back, to see if he genuinely didn’t see the children awake or not.

I can believe that BB lied about Sara having a period and her body changing, but to believe that your daughter needed a nappy?!

If your daughter dies and you suddenly discover your wife is ‘a psycho’, why do you leave the country with her? Why do you ask for an ambulance but never call one?

I think BB blamed Sara’s brother, and US wanted him safely out of the way. This would explain the dental imprints being provided by him.

I just cannot believe that neither he nor his brother had any idea.

I wish Sara’s brother could be spoken to. He could have given the true version, but now he’s been in Pakistan a year with his father’s family, so who knows what they’ve conditioned him to believe to be true now.
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There’s no way of being sure who did what. I hope the judge gives direction to the jury that all can be culpable of contributing to Sara’s death, but with no actual evidence of who did what it’s going to be a case of unpicking what they have got.
I don't know if he was a hackney carriage driver or private hire but I'm sure if he was private hire the firm he worked for would have exact records of when he was on shift, they keep detailed records of all fares.

I think he's protecting himself and throwing BB under a bus. Both US and BB are culpable. I'm witholding judgement on the uncle for now because I haven't heard any of the evidence against him, although I believe he knew exactly what was going on. There's no way you wouldn't be aware that a child was being tortured in your home
 
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A Muslim burial requires the body to be bathed in a specific way, by (or overseen by?) authorised / appointed people and buried within 3 days of death.

AFAIK if there is a need for a post mortem this can be done and the funeral delayed. (Edit to add only if postmortem is required by law)

In a murder case the wish to bury within a timeframe will be overruled by the need for evidence to be gathered.
 
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A Muslim funeral is done 24hrs after death with no embalming wrapped in kafan (it’s like a sheet ) facing the right so would practically be untouched please correct it I’m wrong
24 hours is often quoted but in reality its as quick as is legally possible taking into account the possible involvement of coroners and other legal processes to do with certification.
As there would have been whats known as a home office/forensic post mortem it could have been days or several weeks depending on whether defence asked for their own post mortem too.
Muslim funerals are burials too.
 
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In every pic US brother looks the most distressed/worried/spooked.

BB and US look cool as cucumbers.

My gut is that US did plenty of smacking/punishment by beating but the really twisted stuff like burning with an iron, withholding food, biting, restraint positions was BB. I'm trying to examine if I think this because of internalised misogyny or unconscious bias around British Pakistani women's role in the home etc. Without trying to doxx myself I've worked in Children & Families services (health & social care) in an area of Yorkshire that has a high south east Asian population, combined with social deprivation. I have observed who generally deals with irons, clothes, food, high chairs, parcels & packing tape, children and cleaning in those households and it's not the man. The video statement from Pakistan was led by BB. This isn't a cowed, manipulated, abused woman. I think BB saw how little regard US had for normal, attentive, safe parenting and took an opportunity to carry out her propensity for sadism on Sara and created triangulation with her and US. I dread to think what we will hear when she takes the stand. I think she's a proper psychopath.
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24 hours is often quoted but in reality its as quick as is legally possible taking into account the possible involvement of coroners and other legal processes to do with certification.
As there would have been whats known as a home office/forensic post mortem it could have been days or several weeks depending on whether defence asked for their own post mortem too.
Muslim funerals are burials too.
Also, iirc the police seize the body as evidence after a murder and gather what they need to take the case to CPS. A funeral can only take place once the body is released when all evidence is collected, so I don't think US request for a Muslim burial will have overridden this criminal process.
 
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They’re both going to accuse each other to save themselves. And they’re both awful people.
 
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My thoughts on today

I think us probably had no idea the extent of the injuries on Sara until he got back to the UK and heard the evidence hence why he is now calling her an evil psyco. I think she fed him the lie that Sara's brother had done it right up to the end. For some reason my gut is telling me he's being truthful.
As for her being injured, made to wear a hijab and in nappies: I feel like the dad may not have questioned it when bb told him she needed to be in nappies for her time of the month, women's issues are still very much a taboo subject especially among those who were not born here, so for him to not even question this is entirely plausible in my opinion. I feel like it's also plausible that he may not have seen injuries on her body as men generally back off from parenting duties that include seeing the children naked such as bathing and dressing when girls start growing up, so I feel that BB used that as way to conceal things as girls start observing hijab at puberty. All that said I do not beleive for a minute that he didn't know abuse was happening in some capacity, it must have been obvious to anyone who seen her trying to walk etc.
I firmly beleive that bb is a sick individual who was sick with jealousy because her own two daughters were special needs and added to that visibly special needs, she couldn't bear it that his daughter with another woman was prettier, and it sounds so shallow, but so much emphasis is placed on beauty and light skin colour in uneducated and even educated sections of the community.
 
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My thoughts on today

I think us probably had no idea the extent of the injuries on Sara until he got back to the UK and heard the evidence hence why he is now calling her an evil psyco. I think she fed him the lie that Sara's brother had done it right up to the end. For some reason my gut is telling me he's being truthful.
As for her being injured, made to wear a hijab and in nappies: I feel like the dad may not have questioned it when bb told him she needed to be in nappies for her time of the month, women's issues are still very much a taboo subject especially among those who were not born here, so for him to not even question this is entirely plausible in my opinion. I feel like it's also plausible that he may not have seen injuries on her body as men generally back off from parenting duties that include seeing the children naked such as bathing and dressing when girls start growing up, so I feel that BB used that as way to conceal things as girls start observing hijab at puberty. All that said I do not beleive for a minute that he didn't know abuse was happening in some capacity, it must have been obvious to anyone who seen her trying to walk etc.
I firmly beleive that bb is a sick individual who was sick with jealousy because her own two daughters were special needs and added to that visibly special needs, she couldn't bear it that his daughter with another woman was prettier, and it sounds so shallow, but so much emphasis is placed on beauty and light skin colour in uneducated and even educated sections of the community.
OMG yes Sara is very fair skinned. I do wonder if US has had to be deprogrammed a bit from her. He’s still a fool who probably was violent, but you know how psychos manipulate everything. what if he did spend all that time in Pakistan thinking his son did it? He’s on the run with her and Faisal, the kids are with grandad. She’s isolated US really well.
 
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For all Sharif's sobbing and blaming Bainesh, let's not forget that there was a cricket bat and a leather belt which both had full DNA samples from Sara herself, Sharif and Faisal on both ends. Neither object had Bainesh's DNA on them. So Sharif and Faisal saying that they were at work all the time so it must have been Bainesh who was consistently causing the serious injuries is a lie.

I think Bainesh was the one who was consistently attacking Sara during the day - and she probably used the iron, but Sharif and Faisal are obviously responsible for the injuries caused by the bat and belt.

It is absolutely horrific that all three adults were treating her like a whipping post. It's beyond imagination to be honest. That poor girl; it's just unfathomable.
 
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They’re both going to accuse each other to save themselves. And they’re both awful people.
I wonder at what point they decided to turn on each other. In the video from Pakistan they were sticking together 'fight our case in court' now they're both pointing fingers at each other to save their own ars*es

What possible case did they think they had? With the amount of injuries she had did they really think they could fight their case. They're all so thick and twisted including their families (BBs sister)
 
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I wonder at what point they decided to turn on each other. In the video from Pakistan they were sticking together 'fight our case in court' now they're both pointing fingers at each other to save their own ars*es

What possible case did they think they had? With the amount of injuries she had did they really think they could fight their case. They're all so thick and twisted including their families (BBs sister)
If BB had convinced the men that it was the fault of Sara’s brother then who knows? As a pp said maybe Urfan didn’t realise the extent of the injuries BB had been inflicting on Sara. Maybe he did beat her badly at times, but didn’t know she was being starved, tied up, bitten and tortured as well.

In the stupid video they made BB said that what happened to Sara was an incident, which meant nothing.
But we know that it wasn’t an incident which killed her, she had multiple injuries and they culminated in her becoming weaker then slowly dying 😥 who was BB pushing that story to? The public or the family?

unfortunately, like the school staff who said they weren’t worried about Sara having bruises, there’s more kids with more worrying things, if these lot all grew up with being beaten and hit with objects and domestic violence, then they get desensitised. They don’t see it as a big deal to batter the kids. Hence BB’s sister saying “Lol she knew it was coming“ when Sara got a hiding.
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Story doesn’t match the headline re:radiator
 
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