Sali Hughes #4 The Keats of foundation

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I didn't get #TheBadger reference...? As for GTL - I don't recall trans issues being discusses, but I do remember FeeBee comparing paedophiles to gay people. As a queer woman, I was FUMING.
It's referring to Ruth Badger from one of the early The Apprentice series (the UK one).
The trans discussion was after Suzanne Moore and Julie Burchill articles in the Guardian and Observer. FeeBee was very opinionated and very ignorant. I don't remember the gay/paedophile comparison but do remember the insistence by SH and FeeBee that they couldn't possibly stop people "joke insultingly" ask people to refrain from calling each other "lezzas" however upsetting and reminiscent of childhood bullying gay women found it because... I have absolutely no idea why.

I never really went on the SHB forum (I registered but it was impossible to navigate si I never posted or even lurked, I couldn't make sense of how to find stuff that was being discussed). But before the launch I'm sure SH proudly announced that FeeBee would be an agony aunt. Perhaps she was very good at it but she came across as arrogant, unwilling to consider anyone else's point of view and a bit thick. By which I mean a lot thick.
 
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Morning fellow frigid skidmarks! Just woke up to scratch my bum lol! Probably will have a few more hours of zzzzzzz before I ask my mum to make my breaky.

Disclaimer: I do not think any of you are actually skidmarks and I know none of you are frigid on account of the intense hateful love-in we have experienced together this weekend.


ETA either I have lost my mind or this is some scarily masterful boris-esque manipulation. The sad thing is that most ordinary people would simply not believe a person could be so calculated because it’s gobsmacking.
 
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Slightly OT, but whenever I see IK pretentiously talking in an interview I always think it’s Dawn French in a French & Saunders skit.
 
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Wow, what drama. Had to re-sign up again just to add my support. From the accusations made by Sali, she is basically twisting the narrative rather than accept others have differing opinions about her Bestie CT, and her own misleading content. Have people accused CT of being a poor employer, yes. Have people felt misled in Sali's product recommendations due to her "tweakments" and undisclosed ads, partnerships etc, well yes. The only time people have mentioned her children, is to question why Sali is putting them on social media. The only time people have mentioned Carey, is to question why Sali thinks it appropriate to exploit her deceased friend's privacy and link it into brands like Chanel. The only time people have brought up her partner, is to question why she thinks bringing up what good a "shag" he is is professional and mature.

No one has "harassed" Sali, as far as I know, we are all just making product discussion and impartiality discussion that otherwise would have been made on the Guardian, if it were not heavily moderated. Whereas, according to this thread. Sali et al have bullied others on different forums if they disagree on product, made threats to posters, and searched through their profiles online. Neverminding the abuse she has given to Lauren Luke, Esther and Dawn. Along with the repeated use of homophobic and mental health slurs.

Crying like that in reaction to this thread just manipulation, as she has not addressed any of the comments and is instead wrongly accusing others of things she has done herself. It should be a time for humility and growth. To take onboard fellow women's negative experiences of the beauty industry, and address that her coloumn has turned into just a list of ad's.

If anyone has spoken about her personal life, it has been because she has published it online. Does she forget how she has bullied other women via social media, gone after for no real reason Owen Jones and Susan Sarandon, not made her forum a safe space for discussion, spoken about her childhood and career progression and used this as a means to qualify her opinions?

Her column is a throwback, she doesn't disclose that the products mentioned are "gifted", whereas a blogger or instagrammer would have to. She takes on freebies like haircuts etc like any other influencer that has little to do with her journalism. And her coloumn offers no reak eductation or empowerment. It's just shilling. Look at how Violette fr and co talk about makeup and wellbeing, it's fun, it's workable and transferable to differing price points. Look at how Nadine Baggott is so open about getting "tweakments", and presents this in a professional down to earth manner rather than masking it all. Influencers actually show products, they don't just give a list of plugs, plus a headshot that has nothing to do with what has been advertised, they demonstrate and offer a range of positive or more critical opinions. Shower cap gate, she could have included a pic of it being worn, test it out in comparison to those at cheaper price points, address that even for a re-usable it is shockingly expensive... but nothing, all that was taken from that was the manufacturer came into the comments to sook up to others "we named it after you!" and bash competitors, along with basically showing it was an AD rather than an organic decision from Sali.

That is what is concerning, people still think Sali is just recommending products she has "loved for years" and is not just the same as any other influencer who is plugging the latest launch. People in the comments think she is a professor of beauty & skincare, bit like caroline, and will buy thinking her opinion is qualified, when in reality, what do we actually learn from the column? Her use of "cruelty free" and ethics "boils my piss", as she never clarifies that a product has certain certifications, is owned by so and so unethical parent company, contains animal ingredients, is tested on animals etc.Considering it is also her column, there is no clear ethical slant either, which highlights that it's just a mish mash of ads (how can one promote L'oreal!).

Sorry for this long post, I'm sorry for others who have spoken on here who have been or felt intimated, that is not justifiable, and all over daring to have differing opinions on product!
 
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Just so as I can confirm I’m not going mad, does anyone else remember a piece St.Sali of Skincare wrote about how her friends knew that she was slightly bonkers after the birth of one of her children as she bought a wardrobe full of Boden clothing? Their implication being that she was normally too cool for such twee clothing so she must be depressed?
And now I read that she loves a bit of Boden cashmere?
MAKE UP YOUR BLOODY MIND, WOULD YOU?!
Her web is spun so tight she has no idea what's been said.

I must be such a c*nt/human vermin/skidmark of society/ugly person with nothing good in my life as I'm getting my kids ready for the school run and i had planned to pop a boden jumper over a Hush dress. Nutjob I am.
 
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LOL at 'completely innocent' manner in which she mentioned how awful LL's column was on Twitter.

When my husband and I started dating, I 'innocently' mentioned I had missed the last train home and would have to stay at his
 
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Morning fellow frigid skidmarks! Just woke up to scratch my bum lol! Probably will have a few more hours of zzzzzzz before I ask my mum to make my breaky.

Disclaimer: I do not think any of you are actually skidmarks and I know none of you are frigid on account of the intense hateful love-in we have experienced together this weekend.


ETA either I have lost my mind or this is some scarily masterful boris-esque manipulation. The sad thing is that most ordinary people would simply not believe a person could be so calculated because it’s gobsmacking.
This woman's career depends on her honesty. She has repeatedly stated how honest she is. She even had a book published, the title of which contained that very word (though its meaning was 'kind of/sort of honest' but we don't talk about that, look a woman can want to look pretty AND make bad puns that don't make much sense at the same time, you know. It's just patronising nonsense to assume otherwise and frankly, even I'm bored shitless of having to keep saying this thin justification of why women's disposable income should be spent on empowering themselves. Not my income though, I get most this empowering stuff for free. This makes me a beacon of empowerment, super-empowered, uber-empowered. *Valleysface*
 
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How empowering to see other women as rivals, and be negative about other women in order to feel good about yourself , to base your worth on your "sex appeal", and to encourage women to spend fortunes on miracle creams and non-cruelty free products. Whilst knowing you are misleading them.

Or are we just meant to forget all the articles and social media content that show exactly this omg! Or sexualising a teenage boy, with so much weight put on his "virginity". Or the hypocrisy in being pro-lgbt super woke... yet saying two women in a relationship should dress to complement each other (individual identity apparently non existent for gay couples!!!), or using homophobic slurs against women.

Just to be one of those "skid marks", personally I find her interviews where she interacts with other women terribly awkward. With the "in the bathroom" series, a lot of it was undisclosed ads, but even so, she could never just let the other woman "shine" and instead kept interjecting how everything related to her "I've used this for years" etc. Ditto the makeover with Katie Jane Hughes, she acted so standoffish and closed-off, like what was the bloody point, to sit like a po-faced stubborn teenager, rather than two women meant to be working together?

What exactly do all the artlcles about her calling herself "jail bait", running off to live with a "much older man", idolising her dad and hating her mum, her marriage etc etc have to with beauty journalism? Along with the name dropping and life stories that get interjected into mot of the adverts, sorry beauty columns? The hypocrisy's in saying a boyfriend, and an uncle gave her connections (one the much older man, another that she as a minor was hanging out at his bar), that she was brought up wearing Chanel perfume... to different life stories given in other articles, that child services/family/school wouldn't care that she had just ran away to another country to live with an adult boyfriend?! These are all personal details that have been published. To go on about being socialist working class, but adore the monarchy and clearly have a very comfortable lifestyle. Nothing wrong with being comfortable, but don't wear that "poverty face" as woke points. (seriously did she actually say poverty-face?!)

The comments made about Boden and Hush models being violent together, guess that was meant to be humour, but once again, misguided and hardly pro-women. I am sure many of her readers also shop at those places, and like their aesthetics, maybe try to be the "calm" or whatever she called them as an insult, people... as opposed to getting sent Bella Freud jumpers, which are hardly "cruelty free" either.

Bit off topic, but look at how Charlotte Tilbury bases everything on "celebrity" "hollywood", gives her models the same tanned look rather than embracing diversity, and makes odd comments about NEVER letting her husband see her without makeup, and never taking makeup off bar to wash her face and re-apply? It is her choice, but her branding and lifestyle seem to be about how wearing makeup gives her empowerment and sex appeal, and to not wear it somehow is a negative, rather than it being fun, and something to complement not define. You would expect more objective criticism over the ethos of her branding, but instead everything is ammmaaazing, nevermind the poor treatment experienced by employees. Even as a casual viewer of her youtube, the "nepotism" was clear, along with the rather one trick pony routine.
 
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I would like a brown jumper with gold thread embroidery and I’d like it to say Skidmark Person on the front and Deluded Turd on the back and then underneath an iron on patch of the bin emoji. Because get in the bin is just so funny to me! It means you think someone is rubbish. Oh I’m crying with laughter as I type this. The originality of condemning people by simply putting their name and a bin emoji.

On a serious note and this might sound ridiculous to some.... I think it’s very rude to call people bin people. Working in waste is a very important job. Dismissing it as unseen and unimportant is probably partly why we are in this dreadful mess re. Plastic in the oceans and the rest of it. So from now on, to me, being a bin person is a mark of respect for someone who does a thankless but extremely important job. There is a lot of dignity in that.
 
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Wonder if the next Bella Freud range will have a print that says Skidmarks and Shitmouth :sneaky:
I wonder if Sali reads Ginsberg or listens to The Last Poets but that because I'm jealous of how pretty she is. Perhaps she does and she'll be writing for the LRB or Uncut anytime now.
(This sounds very snobby, I know, but if she's not a Ginsberg and Last Poets enthusiast I think it's a bit bleeping daft to wear jumpers with their names on.)
Or maybe she'll just continue to write about films she's seen and how they relate to her life in the magazine her friend edits now that her gig at her other mate's website has gone tits up. (They always have Empire at my GP's and I've skim read a few and there be more to the column than that.)

And married incels
I'm actually an unmarried volcel. Amazing but true. Admittedly, my bed sheets could do with a wash, what with my mum having been dead for 10 years, the lazy, neglectful witch. I must ask FeeBee how I can solve this dilemma.
 
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Ah, the lying mutual friend. It's always someone else's fault, Sali just mindlessly went along for the bullying ride, instead of finding out the truth for herself.

This doesn't paint you in a better light!
 
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First poster on this thread but have been following the Sali drama absolutely cringing by her behaviour.
I liked a tweet that said her children weren't targeted she was just called out on sharing them when she said she never would. And I'm blocked 😂😂😂. So am I a troll for liking a tweet that was the truth? Screenshot_2019-09-30-08-35-48-124_com.twitter.android.jpg
 
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Ah, the lying mutual friend. It's always someone else's fault, Sali just mindlessly went along for the bullying ride, instead of finding out the truth for herself.

This doesn't paint you in a better light!
Sali's journalistic instincts must have abandoned her for approximately nine months in 2009 then. Bit weird for such an accomplished professional.
 
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Hi, I'm another newcomer, brought here by the Sali debacle. I thought 'oh, I must see what awful people these are!' expecting something from the Dark Web.
Well. Let's hope Sali never joins her local PTA or parish council, huh?
Puts a different light on things when you actually read the tame posts here.
I'm a farmer (yes, really) so not really au fait with the world of beauty. I don't even have an Instagram account. I'm a country bumpkin so I don't understand this world of make up and skin treatments being mainly a user of Swarfeggar and petroleum jelly, but my my. You all seem perfectly nice people. I'm disappointed 😂.
Thanks for giving me a laugh. Have a lovely day. 😊
 
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Just sending a cheery wave to all my fellow verminous shitmouthed female incels after seeing my son off to school!

I told my mum to make me breakfast but she said not to be so bloody ridiculous as she lives 150 miles away and I'm old enough to get it myself, apparently. So unfair.

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Ah, the lying mutual friend. It's always someone else's fault, Sali just mindlessly went along for the bullying ride, instead of finding out the truth for herself.

This doesn't paint you in a better light!
If she'd actually taken responsibility, owned her behaviour and given a sincere apology that would have redeemed her somewhat. But no. It's someone else's fault. Awful.
 
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