I may be wrong but were the SJ family not on holiday at the same place as Luisa and JSJ had put Luisa’s Children in their vlog/Instagram pictures. I think they were in the background and then the pictures were removed?I just messaged Luisa Zissman about the cold shower situation as she is another “influencer” that has the guts to speak out! Her youngest two kids are around Alessia’s age and has recently done potty training (I believe) so will be interesting to see if she responds. Luisa has a no BS approach, doesn’t show her children on Instagram so respects their privacy and says it how it is, if she were to speak out, it would be amazing, I’m unsure if she will
Yessss! Loads of people had messaged Luisa and she contacted SJ’s to take it down as shes so cautious about putting her kids faces on social media! As she’s so into privacy, I can imagine she isn’t a fan of family vloggers shoving a camera in a child’s face so could speak upI may be wrong but were the SJ family not on holiday at the same place as Luisa and JSJ had put Luisa’s Children in their vlog/Instagram pictures. I think they were in the background and then the pictures were removed?
I agree completely. I hope that my email wasn't just overlooked as a keyboard warrior troll.They didn’t think this was wrong at all that’s the biggest worry - they wouldn’t have posted it if they did.
Also I’m a social worker of ten years - Surrey mash team will open this as a referral and will have to consider the history of the family as part of the wider context of this new concern. What doesn’t help is anyone previously maliciously referring the family as this is on record and social care get such a lot of malicious referrals if there is a pattern it does impact on decision making. However if my team received a referral of this nature we would be asking the family to consent to a section 17 assessment. As part of that each of the children is spoken to on their own, often in school to get their views. This is done in the form of direct work so it’s not like the child is directly interrogated but rather asked to engage in role play with puppets, or complete work sheets or three houses took where they have to list things that they would like to change in their house or things they don’t like but it’s done in a way that prompts a lot of detail by the child. This would then be seen as good quality evidence if the older two talk about what happens when you are naughty. I hope anyone referring can upload the video as social care with clearly see on this occasion it is not malicious and parents are admitting it.
Good for you. All of you actually doing something. I've been thinking about this all day. It is so worrying to think what actually is going on behind closed doors if this cold shower thing is perceived by them to be acceptable. The thing I found most chilling was Anna SJ darkly telling 2 children they were overexcited (or something) so they would have a shower - 'no no no' - and then the nanny checking if it was to be warm. Horrible. Btw as an aside is it that normal for small children to have showers? Not judging here just curious as mine when very wee always had a bath.Lucypea... As a primary teacher, really really bothered by this thank you so much for contributing your expert knowledge. There are copies of the unedited vlog vids on here showing both the cold shower one and the elder daughter playing with her dolls and answering Jonathon telling him what happens when they are naughty, which was filmed two years ago. Do you think they would look at the historical video clips shown in this article, which shows other things that add to the picture of their family? I know as a teacher every small concern recorded by us can be like a puzzle piece part of a bigger picture, especially if there is a SS referral?
I have emailed gleam futures the same... No mention of link to here so tattle doesn't get implicated... With the truthaboutvloggers and facts about legally being child abuse, physically, emotionally and psychologically and thst they have edited/ tried to hide evidence. Fingers crossed.can you tell how mad I amNever been so angry and upset about a child's welfare outside my classroom.
It was Anna’s sister, not the nanny, but I agree it’s a chilling scene.Good for you. All of you actually doing something. I've been thinking about this all day. It is so worrying to think what actually is going on behind closed doors if this cold shower thing is perceived by them to be acceptable. The thing I found most chilling was Anna SJ darkly telling 2 children they were overexcited (or something) so they would have a shower - 'no no no' - and then the nanny checking if it was to be warm. Horrible. Btw as an aside is it that normal for small children to have showers? Not judging here just curious as mine when very wee always had a bath.
My children only started having showers when they were a bit older.They had lovely warm baths with Mr Matey bubble bath and I had a little kids tape player in the bath room with nursery rhymes we would have a lovey sing along.Bath time was fun time and relaxing time before bedtime stories and snuggles.Im not some super mum or nothing that’s just what we didGood for you. All of you actually doing something. I've been thinking about this all day. It is so worrying to think what actually is going on behind closed doors if this cold shower thing is perceived by them to be acceptable. The thing I found most chilling was Anna SJ darkly telling 2 children they were overexcited (or something) so they would have a shower - 'no no no' - and then the nanny checking if it was to be warm. Horrible. Btw as an aside is it that normal for small children to have showers? Not judging here just curious as mine when very wee always had a bath.
But she also goes on holiday to the same place as the Saccone jolys at the same time and only a couple of months ago called them a lovely family so I doubt she will speak outI just messaged Luisa Zissman about the cold shower situation as she is another “influencer” that has the guts to speak out! Her youngest two kids are around Alessia’s age and has recently done potty training (I believe) so will be interesting to see if she responds. Luisa has a no BS approach, doesn’t show her children on Instagram so respects their privacy and says it how it is, if she were to speak out, it would be amazing, I’m unsure if she will
YepIs that the family that Jonathan filmed and put on his instastories
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