and lets not forget she has to make time for feeling bored
Ruby Granger #38 Oh Jesus, Ruby's off to Jesus
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Um...isn't that brown monstrosity a Norland nanny uniform?
I am so glad that someone thought the same as me with it! Perhaps Ruby is planning to go all Mary Poppins once Oxford is all done so she never needs to grow up!
Well, she's going to be sorely disappointed with the publishing industry. Even 'overnight successes' don't happen overnight in publishing. I mean, Harry Potter and the Philosphers stone had been out for over 4 years before it even got a glimpse of the NYT bestseller list. It wasn't until Azkaban was out until JK Rowling was financially stable enough to quit her teaching job.
Her agent is free to refuse to shop Ruby's book to publishers at any time if they have no confidence in it. They could also drop Ruby as a client entirely at any time if she goes long enough without offering up something sellable. Her agent won't make a penny off Ruby until she sells a book to a publisher, so it's not in their interest to keep her on the books indefinitely if she's talentless dead weight.
Of course, her agent doesn't seem especially good at their job considering they signed Ruby based on her influencer following first and foremost without any talent or even a complete, proofread first draft. There were red flags everywhere. I can't see any professional agent with any sense keeping her on this long with the quality of writing and (borrowed) ideas she's offering up. And Ruby apparently insisting on scrapping the book her agent ostensibly signed her up for after a couple of rejections rather than work at it didn't look good, either.
I imagine part of the reason she wants a book deal as fast as possible is (along with bragging that she's a POBLISHED WROYTAH) so she has a convenient backup in place when she crashes and burns at Oxford to save face. The "oiy aren't failing, bot oiy've decoided tyooo quit uni tyooo daddicate moiysalf tyoo moiyy wroyting career as that is JANUINELY moiy loiflong dream" excuses write themselves and she could stay in her childhood bedroom forever, bragging about what a huge success she is.
I disagree. People do that because, just like Ruby, they are unwilling or unable to go and join the workforce and contribute to society. It's nothing to be celebrated or imitated in my opinion.
I think that she will stick it through Oxford as I think that leaving would give her too much of an identity crisis for her, especially as she never moved on from the rejection and this gives her the dark academia aesthetic that she wants. I think as well, Oxford is going to be her main source of content for the next year or so with the study with me and 'day in my life at Oxford University,' and people following her for that. I think that her 'passion for writing,' will be her excuse for not getting a proper job and going into the real world once she graduates and it will allow her to become a hermit.
Exactly.
How publishing works is that agents form relationships with the editors who work at the publishing houses. The agent calls the editor up and goes 'yo, I am representing this new book that I think would be a good fit for you. Here is a description. Are you interested?' then if the editor is interested, they get the manuscript sent over to them, read it, then decide whether or not they want to put in an offer. An agent could seriously jeopardize their own career by sending half-baked, underedited, poor qaulity books off on submission. Do it one too many and you will lose your connections with the editors. An agent with no network is just a reader.
But by looking at the books that Ruby's agent has sold, she really only has a couple of editors to submit to. The vast majority of books she has sold has sold to the exact same indie press. Which is probably part of the problem. She probably needs Ruby (well, Ruby's followers) as much as Ruby needs her.
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I mean... As long as they have enough money by themselves to live without needing financial help to financiate them it's perfectly fine.
"It's fine" in the same way any other unhealthy behavior that doesn't affect other people is fine. Just because people aren't personally affected doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with it or it's an example others should follow. I don't think any parent would want their child to never grow out of university and just keep pointlessly getting degrees and depending financially on their family without ever planning to do anything with their education. There are way more meaningful and rewarding ways of living your life
You are being extremely judgemental here.
There is nothing wrong with people getting degrees because they enjoy the process of learning. That has value to them. It is meaningful for them.
I understand what you’re saying, but everyone’s life is their own to do whatever they choose with. As long as they’re not trying to tell me how to live my life, I’ll let them live theirs. At some point people grow out of ”following others’ example” and carve out their own life, so I wouldn’t worry too much about that. And hey, parents can cut their children off if they don’t agree with what they’re doing.
”Meaningful and rewarding” is 100% subjective and I daresay no one is going to have the precise same definition as someone else.
Something that just occured to me -- how is Roobles gonna cope living in student accommodation at Oh My Jesus? Graduate accommodation is shared bathroom and kitchen facilities with 8-14 other students, most of whom will certainly be international and more than a couple who will be male. Ruby only ever shared with Blakely at Exeter. During her 1st year she had a self-contained room with an ensuite and kitchenette, meaning she never had to interact with anybody else at halls.
I'm betting that she will end up in private accomidation, because I really can't imagine she will cope very well sharing a living space and shower with strange men from those dreadful third world, exotic places.
I'm betting that she will end up in private accomidation, because I really can't imagine she will cope very well sharing a living space and shower with strange men from those dreadful third world, exotic places.
Zero chance she'll be in student accommodation. She'll rent herself a cushy flat (or her daddy will rent it for her) for a year within radius of campus to meet the course requirements, then she'll sneak home for 98% of the year because she can't be away from mummy.
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Studying is a great thing. Maybe not for her getting degrees because that might be a burden on the tax system but it's not like it's fair anyway. We lose more money by Tories evading taxes or the rich evading taxes rather than a few people continually studying.
I think this is such a capitalist worldview. Look up the concept of bullshit jobs. None of those jobs really contribute to society, they're just designed to keep people's egos alive. Working doesn't necessarily equate to contributing to society. Look at the work of activists. It's desperately needed but they aren't getting paid to do it. But it's certainly more valuable work than a middle management bullshit job.
Studying is a great thing. Maybe not for her getting degrees because that might be a burden on the tax system but it's not like it's fair anyway. We lose more money by Tories evading taxes or the rich evading taxes rather than a few people continually studying.
Oof, you seem to be assuming that the only meaningful and rewarding way to live life is to become a cog in the machine that is our world system which doesn't give a tit about the human lives it chews up in order to benefit a select few. For some people the most rewarding thing they can possibly spend their lives doing is studying and learning - and in fact that used to be a much more common way to live life pre late-stage capitalism. Of course that was (and really still is) only possible for those born into pretty extreme wealth, but the fact is that for some people that genuinely is what they love to do (or would love to do, if they had the resources), and despite what society tells us, there really shouldn't be anything wrong with people living the life they are happy with instead of suffering doing something they hate which society says is worthwhile. You don't have to go that far back in time to see a point at which it was pretty common for people to spend their lives studying/learning, the fact that it's less common now isn't because people are living healthier lives, it's because people are forced into lives they don't want because they have no other way to stay alive.
That said, Ruby is absolutely just doing it because she doesn't want to grow up, and 100% her particular example is not one to be followed because it actually is very unhealthy behaviour. Also if you really stay in education for that long odds are you might end up doing at least one PhD, at which point you are likely to be contributing to society a) by teaching and b) by publishing work, which depending on your field could well be legitimately incredibly important to the world at large. Again, obviously Ruby isn't going to do that, but that's because she's Ruby, not because it can't be done
Sticking my neck out a bit here but I hear something in what you are saying. I think you are from an Italian background? I am from an Italian mother/Russian father so I have those cultures as something strong in my life. The key words for me in your post are that perpetual studying, as long as it 'doesn't affect other people is fine'. My family certainly wouldn't want me to have stayed in my childhood bedroom engaging in study that didn't get me out of their house and employed. Then again, they also would be fine with me studying forever, as long as I was independent of them. I did undergrad English Lit and became a substitute teacher, then I worked in a pharmacy while I completed my law degree. When I graduated from law, my grandparents on both sides expected that now all my study was over lol. Then I did Masters and PhD in law. I think it was only accepted by my family and their friends because I was in part-time employment and living life outside of their home.
Bit rich to accuse me of being judgmental on a gossip forum that's designed to judge other people. I've said this before but we don't all have to agree on everything on here and it's hypocritical to get on a high horse and call out people for "being judgemental" just because other people's judgements are different from your own. You can explain your point of view and why you think I'm wrong without acting like you are not also on a gossip site where you criticize the way other people choose to live their lives.
Most things that Ruby gets criticized for here don't hurt anyone else and are just part of her lifestyle. I'm talking about her weird food concoctions, her hair, her filthy bedsheets and the overall state of their house, the way she dresses, etc. These are all frequent topics of discussion on here and no one ever says anything about how we're being mean or judgemental or how we should accept the way other people live their lives if it has no impact on us.
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Honestly I get that too. Most university degrees are not that much of educating as such but more like fillers either way. Not to mention the sole studying at university won’t do that alone - you’re supposed to expand it by personal interests and work. There’s only so much you can learn sitting at your desk all days but it’s useless imo when you don’t put it to practice. Just like Ruby, she’s been studying her whole life but she learned nothing and can’t do anything with that knowledge. And that’s when it truly shows if you’ve actually learned and understand what you’ve learned in the first place.
Besides how many people can actually afford to study for the sake of studying - mostly it’s people who live off their parents’ resources (like Ruby), many of which naively believe that well since their kids are studying then tehy have to provide for them. I’ve known a bunch of people like that at my uni and honestly there was nothing aspirational about them. Besides work besides getting means to live teaches you a bunch too - interacting with clients, with coworkers, solving problems etc. You’re supposed to go up the ladder with time and that itself is also teaching you a lot and motivating to expand your skills. Sure someone can say yeah it’s bullshit capitalism and you’re a cog in a machine and naive - my work for me is helping me grow in my profession and I dont need to be a doctor or activist and directly work for people in need to feel like I’m achieving something. I’m not gonna mindlessly hate on capitalism since for now it’s the best system compared what we had in the past. It’s especially visible when you come from a country which used to live by the „everything is shared and equal ideology” with bullshit propaganda how the system is great and it was truly awful. Some people really don’t get that. Sure currently there’s a lot to improve and change but let’s not pretend we live in hell, at least not in the first world.
It's insane to still see people defending capitalism after the hell it's caused. Wealth inequality, climate breakdown, poverty, are all the result of capitalism.
Please don't tit on communism or socialism because when it was done, it was done under fascists and that's not the ideology's fault.
Look at ecosocialism, it's something which we should be doing more of.
Please don't tit on communism or socialism because when it was done, it was done under fascists and that's not the ideology's fault.
Look at ecosocialism, it's something which we should be doing more of.
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