It annoys me too. They are getting paid to advertise so at least get it right. Its bad enough when you see the illiterate vapid airhead doing it but so called educated people? No excuse.Her most recent IG caption really annoys me lol, there are multiple typos. Especially given that it’s about her #gifted afternoon tea, it’s so unprofessional. Just shows how much she cares about her influencer status. If it were anyone else in any other job or a Uni assignment, we would be double checking our work to ensure it was up to a good standard. I know it sounds picky but it rubs me the wrong way when people have typos in ads.
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I wonder what Ms Granger’s thoughts on “Grindeldore” will be?
As a veteran Holly Gabrielle viewer, I have to say this looks super similar to Holly's hands. Holly has mentioned she has a (harmless) blood circulation condition called Raynaud's (spelling?), and people over on the Holly thread have mentioned that anorexia can make the symptoms worse, apparently. So maybe Ruby has sth similar? Idk though, I'm not a doctor
^ Responding to the above post - that's something I speculated about too. I hope it's not the case.
Tbh I think the hand issue is from her washing her hands too much. I've been doing the same thing for years (and over-sanitising). Now they're very sensitive to hand sanitiser and I frequently get red rashes on my hands/wrists when I don't dry them properly after washing them. For me it was related to OCD type behaviour and exacerbated by the pandemic.
Also loving the discussion on here about LGBT+ fiction, so interesting
As a cis woman I read gay/lesbian romances to escape from the uncomfortable gender roles I see reflected in many straight romance stories. I'm also LGBT+ myself so I find that books dealing with these topics often have very insightful things to say about LGBT+ identity, especially since (contrary to popular belief) the majority of gay fanfiction and literature is created by non straight women. In my opinion however the event should have been more focused on inviting influencers who could see themselves represented, who could be impacted by the story, who could have wished for shows like that to be widely available when they were growing up. Of course 1) anyone can enjoy a story, 2) not all influencers are out about their identity or even sure about it and 3) I would encourage anyone who isn't part of a minority group to engage in media talking about the experiences of that minority group, so they can be a better ally. And of course the event COULD have featured more LGBT+ influencers, I'm only really hearing about it from here. But inviting Ruby, who has never previously shown much interest in YA, LGBT+ fiction or even TV shows in general seems like a weird choice.
Also loving the discussion on here about LGBT+ fiction, so interesting
As a cis woman I read gay/lesbian romances to escape from the uncomfortable gender roles I see reflected in many straight romance stories. I'm also LGBT+ myself so I find that books dealing with these topics often have very insightful things to say about LGBT+ identity, especially since (contrary to popular belief) the majority of gay fanfiction and literature is created by non straight women. In my opinion however the event should have been more focused on inviting influencers who could see themselves represented, who could be impacted by the story, who could have wished for shows like that to be widely available when they were growing up. Of course 1) anyone can enjoy a story, 2) not all influencers are out about their identity or even sure about it and 3) I would encourage anyone who isn't part of a minority group to engage in media talking about the experiences of that minority group, so they can be a better ally. And of course the event COULD have featured more LGBT+ influencers, I'm only really hearing about it from here. But inviting Ruby, who has never previously shown much interest in YA, LGBT+ fiction or even TV shows in general seems like a weird choice.I struggle with the concept of Ruby washing her hands a lot/too much. They live in squalor (both her family home and at uni) and she touches everything eg all the books in Waterstones. She gets on her hands and needs to wash the years-of-filth floor without a second thought. She frequently has food or other unidentifiable stuff on her hands in her vlogs and stories. I could go on. I just don’t see it.
I assume it is related to whatever condition she has that makes her thumbs/big toes oddly shaped. Probably nothing she can do about it.
I'm an queer person who has written gay fanfiction for years, and consumes a lot of MLM romance - I think it's interesting that there's a perception that it's just straight women that write this and consume that media. I've definitely called my own intentions into question before because I gravitate towards MLM couples instead of WLW romance, even in mainstream literature. I think a lot of it is fetishism that's more internalised in society, and also because MLM couples were far more visible to me when I was younger than any other type of queer love. I don't think I was aware that lesbianism was actually a thing outside of a petty insult until I was in my early teens, whereas being gay was more mainstream.
For context, the main reason I continue to write gay fanfiction is because I consume a lot of media that have predominantly male characters, and therefore predominantly male relationships. For example my main fandom is JJBA, and although I headcanon most of the female characters as WLW in some way (eg. Lisa Lisa) there's not really any other present female protagonists to 'ship' them with. Media is still very male-dominated, and I think that's a big reason why MLM is overrepresented to the point of fetishism. It's more of a systemic issue rather than a problem specifically with writers and consumers, but I would urge cis straight women to pick apart how they're writing their gay relationships because, in my experience, those people are the ones with the most egregious examples of fetishism (like the majority of the Larry Stylinson or Phan fandoms lol, but shipping real people is another issue entirely).
There was a big discussion in Eve's thread before she came out as gay accusing her of queerbaiting, which was incredibly frustrating. I think there's an issue of assuming that traditionally good-looking, effeminate women or female-presenting people are straight because that's the way the male gaze is coded. I don't think it does any good to say that Ruby is or is not LGBTQ+, unless she comes out specifically saying she is one way or the other. It's an incredibly personal issue and I wouldn't want to be the contributing factor to forcing someone to come out just so they don't come across as queerbaiting or pretending to be gay when they're not. I do agree that Ruby never before expressing interest in the LGBTQ+ community in any way is telling, though. Also annoying because I would have loved to be at the Heartstopper premiere
(I'm not saying Ruby definitely has OCD, but @bunnys post got me thinking, in conjunction with my best friend having OCD, so I know a lot about it and just want to try and clarify)
For context, the main reason I continue to write gay fanfiction is because I consume a lot of media that have predominantly male characters, and therefore predominantly male relationships. For example my main fandom is JJBA, and although I headcanon most of the female characters as WLW in some way (eg. Lisa Lisa) there's not really any other present female protagonists to 'ship' them with. Media is still very male-dominated, and I think that's a big reason why MLM is overrepresented to the point of fetishism. It's more of a systemic issue rather than a problem specifically with writers and consumers, but I would urge cis straight women to pick apart how they're writing their gay relationships because, in my experience, those people are the ones with the most egregious examples of fetishism (like the majority of the Larry Stylinson or Phan fandoms lol, but shipping real people is another issue entirely).
There was a big discussion in Eve's thread before she came out as gay accusing her of queerbaiting, which was incredibly frustrating. I think there's an issue of assuming that traditionally good-looking, effeminate women or female-presenting people are straight because that's the way the male gaze is coded. I don't think it does any good to say that Ruby is or is not LGBTQ+, unless she comes out specifically saying she is one way or the other. It's an incredibly personal issue and I wouldn't want to be the contributing factor to forcing someone to come out just so they don't come across as queerbaiting or pretending to be gay when they're not. I do agree that Ruby never before expressing interest in the LGBTQ+ community in any way is telling, though. Also annoying because I would have loved to be at the Heartstopper premiere
OCD-like symptoms can be varied depending on who it is, she might have symptoms you'd expect (eg. hand-washing) but not fulfil the stereotype you're thinking of. It's got far more to it than just being clean, and you could very easily need to compulsively hand-wash but not worry about mess around you. She's got other symptoms that possibly suggest OCD or a similar anxiety disorder, such as her need to plan her essays five million times before actually writing, which could imply that she does compulsively hand wash. I understand why you wouldn't understand it, but mental illness is incredibly personal and differs from person to person, and OCD in particularly is very misrepresented in media.
(I'm not saying Ruby definitely has OCD, but @bunnys post got me thinking, in conjunction with my best friend having OCD, so I know a lot about it and just want to try and clarify)
Oh I do get this. Absolutely OCD is not just “washing your hands” or contamination etc. (I worked a couple of years in a specialist OCD clinic). Clinically, her presentation as we see it online (which is of course not a reflection on her whole life but is what she chooses to share) still does not to me seem to equate with OCD as I understand it as a MH professional. So it’s not based on just assuming OCD=compulsive hand washing but a general sense from all we see (which is selective I know). I don’t doubt she is a person who struggles with anxiety and for that I have empathy for her. But I also can’t ignore the charity ballsups, the constant feedback she asks for but then wilfully chooses to ignore and often do more of and, in particular, the bullying and holocaust disasters.
Just wanted to say that I really appreciate you taking the time to explain about OCD & your experience around LGBT issues. I'm a bi woman and accusations of queerbaiting are frequently directed towards bisexual people.
There's been a lot of speculation about Ruby's sexual orientation/possible asexuality and I understand why people are curious, but honestly she's never brought it up publically so there's no way for us to tell.
I also think we might be reading too much into her choice of literature; these have all been popular books lately (and remember she's writing a YA novel), so it wouldn't surprise me if she's jumping on the bandwagon with the MLM romance trend.Yes, absolutely, I had a very similar experience of fanfiction and learning about myself through queerness in fandom and I think this is the difference between queer women and non-binary people engaging with (mostly) mlm romances (because as you said, media is male-dominated and therefore most complex characters in a lot of media until fairly recently were men), and the way straight cis women engage with it. For them it can just be fantasy and escapism but for non-straight/non-cis people it's deeper than that, and realistic, honest, complex portrayals of queer characters are important for that reason. Queer people shouldn't have to read fetishistic portrayals of characters they connect with for straight peoples' leisure - even though I find that the fetishism is much rarer now than it was ten years ago. One interesting example is Ben and Callum from Eastenders - they're very popular on Twitter with mainly women viewers but a lot of gay male viewers find the relationship and portrayal inauthentic and offensive.I'm an queer person who has written gay fanfiction for years, and consumes a lot of MLM romance - I think it's interesting that there's a perception that it's just straight women that write this and consume that media. I've definitely called my own intentions into question before because I gravitate towards MLM couples instead of WLW romance, even in mainstream literature. I think a lot of it is fetishism that's more internalised in society, and also because MLM couples were far more visible to me when I was younger than any other type of queer love. I don't think I was aware that lesbianism was actually a thing outside of a petty insult until I was in my early teens, whereas being gay was more mainstream.
For context, the main reason I continue to write gay fanfiction is because I consume a lot of media that have predominantly male characters, and therefore predominantly male relationships. For example my main fandom is JJBA, and although I headcanon most of the female characters as WLW in some way (eg. Lisa Lisa) there's not really any other present female protagonists to 'ship' them with. Media is still very male-dominated, and I think that's a big reason why MLM is overrepresented to the point of fetishism. It's more of a systemic issue rather than a problem specifically with writers and consumers, but I would urge cis straight women to pick apart how they're writing their gay relationships because, in my experience, those people are the ones with the most egregious examples of fetishism (like the majority of the Larry Stylinson or Phan fandoms lol, but shipping real people is another issue entirely).
There was a big discussion in Eve's thread before she came out as gay accusing her of queerbaiting, which was incredibly frustrating. I think there's an issue of assuming that traditionally good-looking, effeminate women or female-presenting people are straight because that's the way the male gaze is coded. I don't think it does any good to say that Ruby is or is not LGBTQ+, unless she comes out specifically saying she is one way or the other. It's an incredibly personal issue and I wouldn't want to be the contributing factor to forcing someone to come out just so they don't come across as queerbaiting or pretending to be gay when they're not. I do agree that Ruby never before expressing interest in the LGBTQ+ community in any way is telling, though. Also annoying because I would have loved to be at the Heartstopper premiere
OCD-like symptoms can be varied depending on who it is, she might have symptoms you'd expect (eg. hand-washing) but not fulfil the stereotype you're thinking of. It's got far more to it than just being clean, and you could very easily need to compulsively hand-wash but not worry about mess around you. She's got other symptoms that possibly suggest OCD or a similar anxiety disorder, such as her need to plan her essays five million times before actually writing, which could imply that she does compulsively hand wash. I understand why you wouldn't understand it, but mental illness is incredibly personal and differs from person to person, and OCD in particularly is very misrepresented in media.
(I'm not saying Ruby definitely has OCD, but @bunnys post got me thinking, in conjunction with my best friend having OCD, so I know a lot about it and just want to try and clarify)
I naturally don't object to people reading outside of their own experience, as someone said before it should be encouraged. With Ruby, I'm not sure she does understand the nuance given her surface level understanding of literally everthing she reads, but then again maybe she identifies more with the LGBTQ+ community than we know. It's a very complex and interesting issue to me so it's been really interesting to read everyone's takes!
Absolutely not related to the present subject but while watching few vlogs I didn't watched back then and noticed the two girls in the background XD
I don't think she'll even go that far, I think it's just sheer coincidence that the show Netflix wanted Ruby to shill was based on an MLM romance series and she can never say no to sponsors.
Apologies to anyone who brought this up — I had meant to clarify in my post that I wasn't saying that Ruby was definitely straight, but I lost myself in the rambling... What I meant was that I think an event like that should centre LGBT+ influencers. Of course, an influencer can identify as LGBT+ without ever coming out and no one is entitled to know anything about a person's sexuality or gender identity, even if they're a public figure! But in the eyes of the event organisers, Ruby isn't known to be LGBT+, and so they wouldn't knowingly be centering an LGBT+ influencer. I hope that makes sense. I really dislike the idea that someone has to come out if they do identify in a certain way. No influencer owes anyone representation, and to me the idea that coming out is the Be All And End All of the entire experience is heteronormative to me, and more focused on other's reactions to your identity than your own feelings surrounding it. So sorry again if I made it seem like I was assuming Ruby's sexuality — totally not my intentionThere was a big discussion in Eve's thread before she came out as gay accusing her of queerbaiting, which was incredibly frustrating. I think there's an issue of assuming that traditionally good-looking, effeminate women or female-presenting people are straight because that's the way the male gaze is coded. I don't think it does any good to say that Ruby is or is not LGBTQ+, unless she comes out specifically saying she is one way or the other. It's an incredibly personal issue and I wouldn't want to be the contributing factor to forcing someone to come out just so they don't come across as queerbaiting or pretending to be gay when they're not. I do agree that Ruby never before expressing interest in the LGBTQ+ community in any way is telling, though. Also annoying because I would have loved to be at the Heartstopper premiere
I liked Ruby's older style, especially from her first year of university. Now her style is just a bunch of mismatch items that don't go together. Her Depop like list also doesn't have a direction. She surely has a huge identity crisis. And unpopular opinion, but I don't think dark colours suit her. She looks way too hollow already, and black just makes it worse. I don't even understand why she tries so hard to fit dark academia aesthetic, when she obviously doesn't enjoy studying and reading. And she really should cut her hair to shoulder length, she doesn't take care of her hygiene and long hair is hard to manage, I can't imagine how dirty it is.
Well, she didn't even give it a score on Goodreads, but she did "review" it in an Instagram reel.
"I FINALLY got around to reading Heartstopper YASTuhday and LAT ME TAL YOO, I can see why it is got the hype it has..."
All Ruby's narration now sounds like she's just smeared peanut butter all over her mouth, it's just gross lip-smacking between every syllable. It makes my skin crawl.
"It's JOST SYO unlike everything I've read before..."
That's not to say it's a unique and revolutionary book, just that Ruby never reads anything that isn't about rich children, with a recommended reading age of 8-10.
"It's about tyoo boys, NickandCharlie, byoth around fifteen, who fall in love, and roughly half is SAT at their school."
This tells me nothing. Ruby's just flicked through this and read the cover blurb again.
"The REALLY distinctive thing is how REAL it all is. I just LOVE how Osman focuses on toiny myoments instead of HUGE unrealistic plotlines."
I mean...that's almost every teen drama/romance story. And the "real" teen drama moments are the ones Ruby has been very outspoken about not liking and has a tendency to just skip over those subplots, even when it's integral to the story. Weird how that suddenly changes when she needs to advertise something and has very little idea what it's about.
"...AND syo moch VISUAL SPACE is given to these myoments on the page."
Ruby, it's a GRAPHIC novel. Of course there's going to be a lot of visual space devoted to the story. That's kind of the point of the entire medium: it's 90% artwork. That's like reviewing a prose novel and saying, "So many words and paragraphs were centred around the plot and the characters."
"It's just real--A REAL STORY--and thyose stories are some of the basst."
Ruby didn't want to reuse the words "authentic" and "honest" again, but her brain is a withered prune and couldn't come up with any other synonyms, so she just keeps talking about how "real" it is without expanding on that in any way whatsoever.
"This was a really quick and comforting read which you should DAFFINITELY try ahead of the shyow which comes out today and is jost as gud."
In true Ruby fashion, she used a lot of words to say nothing at all. Yet again, it's so vague that I don't think for a second that she read this. If she did, that'd be even more damning in a way, because this is the most her brain can critically engage with or describe a book after years of studying English Literature and pretending to read hundreds of books a year.
Her review footage is also SYO AUTHANTIC that she gets in bed to pretend to read...
But the camera angle changes twice, so she got out of bed just to get different angles of her pretending to read:
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She is definitely more suited to vibrant colours, Marfa's pink wig and lipstick looked great on her. I think she sticks to the dark ones because they remind her of her old school uniform so it's a safety blanket in that way. Just like those weird thick tights she wears under everything.
I bet she considers her struggles with studying and maintaining a fake image to be her secret inner darkness and as such falls under dark academia
I wanted to check out Heartstopper but it just feels kinda weird to me now that Ruby has had her hands all over it. 
Why is Ruby dressed like an ill person? It's late April. Why does she need a long red shawl over her clothes, under her duvet? I know #cosy autumnal aesthetic is her thing and England can be cold, but unless her bedroom has been magically transported to the Arctic Circle, those layers don't make sense! Ruby just chilling (literally) in her igloo of a house...
I know #cosy autumnal aesthetic is her thing and England can be cold, but unless her bedroom has been magically transported to the Arctic Circle, those layers don't make sense! Ruby just chilling (literally) in her igloo of a house...- Status