People have free will and those who can afford to no doubt will, like the celebs are already doing, once it’s available. Whether it’s the healthiest approach or not will be their own issue. It’s here now and realistically there is no going back, unless there’s some very serious currently unknown side effects that come to light down the line. That would be the main thing that make me hesitant about taking it personally but I certainly would never say never if I was a lot bigger in the future.
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If she feels it’s right for her, she should do it. She doesn’t owe anybody squat. She does not need to prioritize anyone else’s health over her own, if these medicines are patented then there should be enough produced to meet demand of whatever illness they’re trying to combat.
Posters here want her to struggle, put the sweat in, fail. She doesn’t have to. Once she is healthy, that’s all she needs to worry about.
Posters here want her to struggle, put the sweat in, fail. She doesn’t have to. Once she is healthy, that’s all she needs to worry about.
Definitely looks like they have split up now, I thought it was strange that she never mentioned him anymore. That's so hard on her and the whole family. She won't be able to move back to Ireland now.I don’t want to sound obsessed with B/ her relationship haha but the last podcast I think makes it clear that she has split from her husband. She buys a new car, and it’s her oldest son that goes with her to pick it up… she brought the kids to Nashville on holiday without the husband…. She mentions getting annoyed when she downloads Google maps and the children tell her ‘this is what dad uses’…. I think it’s really sad if it’s true that she is out in fort Wayne with kiddies and a marriage of so long hasn’t worked out
Definitely agree with others than losing weight can be very difficult and especially for some more than others. Also America seems designed to limit opportunities for walking or being active so you have no choice but to drive everywhere. FW sounds like a god awful place to live. All that said Rosemary’s takeaway habit is outrageous, the financial aspect aside it’s a really bad example to the 3 boys in her care. She has a responsibility to get that under control.
I read her substack piece that goes into more detail, so here's a few details that are relevant to what people are discussing here!
1. Her GP has advised her to use this as a crutch for weight loss, and has encouraged her to eat healthier and move more alongside the medication. She says that so far, she is making healthier choices, mainly with the cost of the drug in mind
2. She is not taking ozempic, she's taking generic semaglutide, which does not contribute to the ozempic shortage for diabetes patients. Semaglutide uses the raw ingredients, which are not in shortage at the moment. The ozempic shortage is due to production not being able to keep up with demand, not an ingredient shortage.
3. She doesn't have a long term plan yet for whether to stay on the medication for life or wean off it, she's open to both. She takes mood stabilisers and is not against life-long medication where necessary. She'd consider taking semaglutide for life (ideally tapered to a low maintenance dosage) if side effects are not severe and her general health has improved as a result of the drug. If she can adopt and keep healthier habits, she'd also be open to weaning off entirely if able.
1. Her GP has advised her to use this as a crutch for weight loss, and has encouraged her to eat healthier and move more alongside the medication. She says that so far, she is making healthier choices, mainly with the cost of the drug in mind
2. She is not taking ozempic, she's taking generic semaglutide, which does not contribute to the ozempic shortage for diabetes patients. Semaglutide uses the raw ingredients, which are not in shortage at the moment. The ozempic shortage is due to production not being able to keep up with demand, not an ingredient shortage.
3. She doesn't have a long term plan yet for whether to stay on the medication for life or wean off it, she's open to both. She takes mood stabilisers and is not against life-long medication where necessary. She'd consider taking semaglutide for life (ideally tapered to a low maintenance dosage) if side effects are not severe and her general health has improved as a result of the drug. If she can adopt and keep healthier habits, she'd also be open to weaning off entirely if able.
She also tried to justify the 1000 dollar a month cost by saying she'd save money on takeaways 
Yes, I couldn't believe the money spent on takeaways. $100 a weekShe also tried to justify the 1000 dollar a month cost by saying she'd save money on takeaways
The semaglutide is costing between $200-300 a month, rather than ozempic which would be $1000+
Obesity is not a disease, not even close. It’s a malaise caused by a combo of people’s cluelessness about food or how their bodies work plus their inability/refusal to adapt accordingly.
I think there’s a lot of misunderstanding around the psychological aspect of all this. I wonder how many people in bigger bodies use food as a comfort or coping mechanism. Who struggle with disordered eating or an eating disorder.
Telling someone whose only source of solace or peace is food to simply eat less is as helpful as telling someone with anorexia to simply eat more. It’s about much more than just willpower.
Telling someone whose only source of solace or peace is food to simply eat less is as helpful as telling someone with anorexia to simply eat more. It’s about much more than just willpower.
People in bigger bodies? Is overweight considered offensive now? It’s not just about eating less, it’s about not living on takeways. No one can deny that Rosemary has made poor choices
Thanks to @kidneybeans for sharing extra details
Thanks to @kidneybeans for sharing extra details
This feels very judgey - a couple of people local to me have had bariatric surgeries recently. Decisions like surgery/injections arent taken lightly and are usually made by people who feel its their only option.
Its a last resort and doesnt need assholes saying to "eat less takeaways" like theyre reinvented the wheel
Its a last resort and doesnt need assholes saying to "eat less takeaways" like theyre reinvented the wheel
Would you make this same argument about eating disorders?
a lot of obese people use food as an emotional crutch similarly to how people with anorexia and bulimia use restrictive food intake / purging as an emotional crutch. Both diseases in their own right
I agree that people can put themselves in situations through bad choices. For example, eating loads of takeaway and not exercising is certainly going to lead someone to put on weight. But why shame a person for then taking a medication that will help them improve their situation, improve their health? Sure, we can say that person should just eat less and move more and the weight will just fall off! But that ignores the mental aspect of it all.
I compare it to myself, I was diagnosed with depression a few years ago. I wasn't exercising, I was cutting myself off socially, and I had thoughts that would just spiral out of control. It was absolutely no use to tell me to go outside for a walk, talk to me friends, don't overthink things, etc. because I wasn't mentally capable to doing any of those things. What was simple and obvious for everyone else just seemed impossible to me. I went on medication and did CBT, and after a few months I felt capable of starting to make lifestyle changes. It was a bumpy road and took years before I was able to taper down and stop medication altogether. I'm now equipped with techniques help my mental health, but I know that one day I may be in that low place again, and medication would help me.
The value someone like Rosemary places on food is totally foreign to me, tbh. But we're all different, and I know for many people food is an integral part of their socialising, their wellbeing, etc. It's good to have a bit of empathy for what someone may be struggling with psychologically, and how that may stop them from taking what seems like obvious steps to help themselves. If the semaglutide will help her with that, what harm is it to anyone else.
I compare it to myself, I was diagnosed with depression a few years ago. I wasn't exercising, I was cutting myself off socially, and I had thoughts that would just spiral out of control. It was absolutely no use to tell me to go outside for a walk, talk to me friends, don't overthink things, etc. because I wasn't mentally capable to doing any of those things. What was simple and obvious for everyone else just seemed impossible to me. I went on medication and did CBT, and after a few months I felt capable of starting to make lifestyle changes. It was a bumpy road and took years before I was able to taper down and stop medication altogether. I'm now equipped with techniques help my mental health, but I know that one day I may be in that low place again, and medication would help me.
The value someone like Rosemary places on food is totally foreign to me, tbh. But we're all different, and I know for many people food is an integral part of their socialising, their wellbeing, etc. It's good to have a bit of empathy for what someone may be struggling with psychologically, and how that may stop them from taking what seems like obvious steps to help themselves. If the semaglutide will help her with that, what harm is it to anyone else.
call me names all you want but it’s just pure cope to pretend that poor choices haven’t led Rosemary to where she is now. I know nothing about the surgeries of the people you know, this is a thread about Rosemary, not them
Sorry to interrupt the Ozempic chat.
is foxwarren actually Rosemary, or what's the story?!
But...did we ever get to the bottom of this?!
is foxwarren actually Rosemary, or what's the story?!
Rosemary debunked it
This is just it though, you're only focused on what shes been doing lately, when its actually pretty clear that she's had a lifelong struggle with her weight.
Rosemary MacCabe: How I went from a size 16 to 12 in four months
I still can’t really believe I’m writing this – just over four months ago, I started what was meant to be a six-week challenge with Niamh at Lift Training Studios.
www.independent.ie
Even in the height of her weight loss era a few years ago, she never exactly got skinny. I believe that shes genetically the type of person who will always carry weight unless she devotes herself full time to keeping it off. That is an incredibly hard and unsustainable way to live. Its joyless and after a while, I can understand the mindset of feck it anyway, I may as well at least enjoy my food, which I think is where she's been at for the last while.
I don't remotely condone the amount of takeaways she eats but I do think living in America does not help. What she should take responsibility for is not being better able to cook for herself (and her family, but also her husband should be able to do this too), as an almost 40 year old woman. However, I still think she'd have a problem but maybe she'd be at 200lbs, and not 250lbs.
If these injections can help (as you still have to do the work, and suffer the side effects) then I'm all for it. People are actually paying significant sums out of pocket to get themselves to a healthier weight and prevent themselves becoming a burden in later years, with conditions like diabetes, high blood pressure, various cancers etc. If thats not personal responsibility, then I don't know what is.
That might be your opinion but it is being treated as a chronic disease now by the health system.
That isn’t my opinion, that’s a fact.
all fair points and I do think the information shared by @kidneybeans showed that she is not just going to take the drugs as a quick fix and is going to do it alongside other healthy habitsThis is just it though, you're only focused on what shes been doing lately, when its actually pretty clear that she's had a lifelong struggle with her weight.
.Rosemary MacCabe: How I went from a size 16 to 12 in four months
I still can’t really believe I’m writing this – just over four months ago, I started what was meant to be a six-week challenge with Niamh at Lift Training Studios.
Even in the height of her weight loss era a few years ago, she never exactly got skinny. I believe that shes genetically the type of person who will always carry weight unless she devotes herself full time to keeping it off. That is an incredibly hard and unsustainable way to live. Its joyless and after a while, I can understand the mindset of feck it anyway, I may as well at least enjoy my food, which I think is where she's been at for the last while.
I don't remotely condone the amount of takeaways she eats but I do think living in America does not help. What she should take responsibility for is not being better able to cook for herself (and her family, but also her husband should be able to do this too), as an almost 40 year old woman. However, I still think she'd have a problem but maybe she'd be at 200lbs, and not 250lbs.
If these injections can help (as you still have to do the work, and suffer the side effects) then I'm all for it. People are actually paying significant sums out of pocket to get themselves to a healthier weight and prevent themselves becoming a burden in later years, with conditions like diabetes, high blood pressure, various cancers etc. If thats not personal responsibility, then I don't know what is.