Real Life Crime and Murder #7

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LaBlonde

i think your theory makes sense - that’s a very broad spectrum of ages.
 
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Eureka

I work with some families involved in criminality and their idea of normal is so bizarre. I remember one girl telling me her new boyfriend was a good lad because he’d only been in prison once It’s quite terrifying the bounds of normality that some people have.
 
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sephylily

Cosytidy said:
I think it was undisputed in the case that he was there that night for a casual sex encounter. He had talked of doing it regularly to colleagues & a witness on the night talked of sexual experiences he’d had there that same night.
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ah. i don't really get why though when he could just go on grindr or to a nightclub, a park to me is an odd place to go.
 
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Be More Pacific

Oh, I actually remember that tram case.

It states the rape and murder happened in a halfway house - the type of residents those places house could well account for the differing ages.
 
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sassmaster3000

when i was 17, I went on a night out with my older cousin and her mates. They were trying to set me up with a date and the first question about “my type” was would I care if he’d been in prison before or not. I said preferably not, and they said “what about if it was just for drugs or robbery or something?”
They all reckoned I was being super picky for saying I’d rather date a guy who hadn’t been in prison was definitely an eye opener night for me for sure
 
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Rekyavikgirl

sephylily said:
ah. i don't really get why though when he could just go on grindr or to a nightclub, a park to me is an odd place to go.
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It's not that odd. Parks have long been hookup spots for some gay men. (I would add that men and women have the right to shag in public without some maniac murdering them just as the law has the right to do them for public indecency if someone objects.)
 
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LilPinkie

I worked with one once who thought it was a badge of honour that her dad was in prison for murdering her boyfriend.
 
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controlledrage

A relative of mine works in a young offenders prison, the inmates are always amazed when they discover none of his five children have ever been to prison. It really is another world, so normal for some people.
 
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DoctorWho

he was openly bisexual .
bute park in the evening is known as a meeting place for men to meet.
them 3 bastards deserve to rot in hell.
 
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MissTeddy

Completely inaccurate speculation on my part.
The man accused, Bobby Hardman, was her boyfriend.
 
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L3moning

I've known some people who are a bit dodgy over the years, but no one who has gone as far as murder (as far as I'm aware). It's almost interesting to me how those sort of people are.
 
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Kmacg

MissTeddy said:
Completely inaccurate speculation on my part.
The man accused, Bobby Hardman, was her boyfriend.
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While no one deserves to die such an awful death, I have no sympathy for her after she caused the death of another person and wasnt exactly societies idea of a golden girl.
 
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GeminiMoon

Kmacg said:
While no one deserves to die such an awful death, I have no sympathy for her after she caused the death of another person and wasnt exactly societies idea of a golden girl.
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I really feel for her three kids though. She was described in court as someone who would fly into a violent rage over the slightest thing so it’s likely their years with her would have been difficult. Then she goes to prison for pushing a man she didn’t know under a tram after a minor, drunken dispute. Then she is released from prison and is reportedly raped and murdered by up to three men. I can only hope they have had a good fostering/adoption experience and lots of therapy.

Edited to add: I’ve just read the most recent news so stand corrected that it appears there was one perpetrator in her rape and murder.

So strange...I wonder what the circumstances were for the three men to be initially arrested and then released without charge, and then an entirely different man is charged.
 
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hogwartsgraduate

There was that documentary (last year?) and it framed Bellfield not Stone - one hell of a miscarriage of justice if true I believe it's Bellfield personally
 
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MissTeddy

This is BIG news to wake up. The level of detail included is truly chilling.
How dreadful for the Russell Family.
Huge repercussions for Michael Stone.

Will another trial be needed to validate Bellfield’s confession?
 
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Pushyplumb

I remember at the time of Stone's conviction a friend of mine saying that the evidence (or lack of) just didn't stack up. That there was enough reasonable doubt to not convict.
 
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MyLittlePony25

Alex is an old friend of mine so glad she has been found but just so sad for her parents and two little boys. She was an only child, her parents will be broken
 
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L3moning

Bellfield is already serving a whole life sentence for murdering various other people, including Milly Dowler. I believe he's the only person to have been sentenced to two separate whole life terms. If this is the case then it might well be three. Although given the killing was in 1996 its not quite as simple as that. Still possible though. And if he's confessed then you'd assume he would plead guilty if they actually charged him, so a trial wouldn't be needed
 
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