Omg what is this tune off? 
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Feel it could have been another story if we got that penalty when Kane was fouled outside of the box when France was 1-0
Big little liarsOmg what is this tune off?
i think itâs hard to explain to someone whoâs english tbh because they donât fully get the isolation of it. the use of us and we. the assumption that you will and should support them (which isnât returned. i remember the bbc using half time of wales v belgium to talk about england) because youâre british. the way the tv coverage always forgets theyâre addressing the uk as a whole.
whenever i try and explain it to english friends theyâre like âbut we would support YOUâ but they donât understand how itâs different. so many people think british = english and it bugs me. but this isnât the thread for my welsh insecurities
I've never seen that I don't think.. its really annoying me what I've heard it off! Found out what it's called but can't link it to the programme that's in my mind
I was just talking about this with my husband! I hate how the pundits say âweâ when talking about England. They should just address them as âEnglandâ - and this is coming from an English person! It really annoys me!
They donât support us though. Theyâve been vile about Wales since we went further than them in 2016. They love mocking Scotland for being tit as well.i think itâs hard to explain to someone whoâs english tbh because they donât fully get the isolation of it. the use of us and we. the assumption that you will and should support them (which isnât returned. i remember the bbc using half time of wales v belgium to talk about england) because youâre british. the way the tv coverage always forgets theyâre addressing the uk as a whole.
whenever i try and explain it to english friends theyâre like âbut we would support YOUâ but they donât understand how itâs different. so many people think british = english and it bugs me. but this isnât the thread for my welsh insecurities
I am English and I fully understand the worldâs beef with this nation. Exceptionalism. Eugh.
The commentary was ABYSMAL.
Played well, unlucky. There is hope where there used to just be despondency.
The commentary was ABYSMAL.
Played well, unlucky. There is hope where there used to just be despondency.
Im not English and Im not really bothered about the result. I dont actively root for their opponents but wouldnt support them either. I do actually feel like the players are a really great bunch, likeable and personable so I am sad for them and its not nice to see the young guys so upset.
I was dreading it going to penalties and poor Saka or Rashford missing and getting dogs abuse.
However Im glad the commentary is over. To insinuate it was missed opportunity because its Morocco is gross.
I was dreading it going to penalties and poor Saka or Rashford missing and getting dogs abuse.
However Im glad the commentary is over. To insinuate it was missed opportunity because its Morocco is gross.
oh exactly, i think itâs easy to say oh we would support you because they donât see us as a valid threat.
i have never ever forgotten in 2016, wales beating belgium, a historic achievement for us, and the bbc spent half time talking about where england had gone wrong a few days before. and i bring it up whenever an english person asks me why i donât support them in football (or rugby).
i'm english but don't feel connected to the stereotypical / loudest fans at all. i enjoy when 'we' do well because of the general buzz it creates but on the other hand the crash that follows a loss is just way too intense. much prefer games where we're seen as the underdog, and in the same sense i'd rather watch wales beat england. the pundits have way overhyped england's success since the euros ish though which takes away that underdog feeling so lately i'm even more indifferent than i was.
No, but beating France would have meant that we beat the favourites and then that gives us a massive edge going into the next round. I do agree with the pundits there. France are favourites and current holders so beating them would have been massive, especially in regards to confidence too. There are no guarantees though, of course. Morocco do seem to be playing well, so we'll see how they get on vs France.
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That was a good game. England performed better than I expected to be honest. France were made to look quite average. Problem with football is it's all about fine margins. England have some good young players coming through the ranks and can only continue improving, so I'm optimistic for the next world cup and upcoming international competitions.
The world cup is hard to win. The almighty Brazil haven't won it for 20 (will be 24 by 2026) years, that just proves how difficult it is. Only a 8 countries have won it. Even small country like Uruguay have won it twice, which is impressive. Spain have won it once, the same as us. I think it does get overblown how few times we've won the world cup.
The world cup is hard to win. The almighty Brazil haven't won it for 20 (will be 24 by 2026) years, that just proves how difficult it is. Only a 8 countries have won it. Even small country like Uruguay have won it twice, which is impressive. Spain have won it once, the same as us. I think it does get overblown how few times we've won the world cup.
I couldnât watch the game as I was working but listening to the end of first half and the second half on the radio it sounded like England were mostly the better team and got unlucky with decisions.
I want Argentina to win now
I want Argentina to win now
I'm not surprised England never win. 
So many comments from the Engerland fans on SM about Mbappe ânot being good enough from the Premier Leagueâ. Presumably that why several of the big clubs have been sniffing around him for the last few years 
I mean didnât Liverpool try and buy him at one point? Heâs not playing in the PL because he doesnât want to! These people talk such rubbish and this just fuels the âanyone but Englandâ feeling. There is a thread currently running on MN where people are explaining far more eloquently than I am exactly why so many of us feel the way that we do about the England mens team and its just not going in at all. So many English people lack any insight about how they behave and how they are seen by the rest of the world. Apparently this is jealousy, jealousy over what? Scotland were a better side than England for many years, Ireland qualified in 1994 and England didnât Wales went further in 2016. We all qualified for the Euroâs last year. Jealousy over 1966?! An event that will fade from living memory within the next decade? If you say so
I mean didnât Liverpool try and buy him at one point? Heâs not playing in the PL because he doesnât want to! These people talk such rubbish and this just fuels the âanyone but Englandâ feeling. There is a thread currently running on MN where people are explaining far more eloquently than I am exactly why so many of us feel the way that we do about the England mens team and its just not going in at all. So many English people lack any insight about how they behave and how they are seen by the rest of the world. Apparently this is jealousy, jealousy over what? Scotland were a better side than England for many years, Ireland qualified in 1994 and England didnât Wales went further in 2016. We all qualified for the Euroâs last year. Jealousy over 1966?! An event that will fade from living memory within the next decade? If you say so Mbappe could walk into 90% of the Premier League teams if he wanted. Hes on megabucks at PSG and is presumably happy there putting the Madrid rumours to the side.
If he isnt that good why was he marked by 2 or 3 men the majority of the game last night?
Giroud and Griezman left to their own devices. Keeping Mbappe on such a short leash allowed the second goal. However had he not been nullified then there may have been other goals.
England were good last night, they didnt play bad at all and Id like to see the players getting the credit for that and achievement at reaching a quarter final. The media / pundits are unrealistic and over ambitious and make this a failure when it isnt. Theyre just not clinical enough in the final third, Brazil had 11 shots on target against Croatia's 1. Croatia went through albeit on penalties but they went through due to that one shot.
There is no point in peppering the box with balls and hoping one goes in, at this level mistakes arent made often. You need to finese those final strikes.
I dont think any team at this tournament has played their best. Id like Croatia to win now
If he isnt that good why was he marked by 2 or 3 men the majority of the game last night?
Giroud and Griezman left to their own devices. Keeping Mbappe on such a short leash allowed the second goal. However had he not been nullified then there may have been other goals.
England were good last night, they didnt play bad at all and Id like to see the players getting the credit for that and achievement at reaching a quarter final. The media / pundits are unrealistic and over ambitious and make this a failure when it isnt. Theyre just not clinical enough in the final third, Brazil had 11 shots on target against Croatia's 1. Croatia went through albeit on penalties but they went through due to that one shot.
There is no point in peppering the box with balls and hoping one goes in, at this level mistakes arent made often. You need to finese those final strikes.
I dont think any team at this tournament has played their best. Id like Croatia to win now
the mbappe stuff is ridiculous. he had a quiet game yesterday because england had at least two men on him (and not in a good way) at all times. iâm also sick of seeing that photo of him laughing after the penalty miss - the abject horror that england feel whenever anyone doesnât roll over for them (i hate him, but see also ronaldoâs wink) is so entitled. he knew that, in the moment, his team was probably going to the semis but is apparently not allowed to express an emotion about that.So many comments from the Engerland fans on SM about Mbappe ânot being good enough from the Premier Leagueâ. Presumably that why several of the big clubs have been sniffing around him for the last few years
given how much england fans celebrated germany getting knocked out i would say they have very short memories. though their continued belief that they have an epic rivalry with germany because of 1966 when germany went onto win multiple tournaments after that and genuinely do not care anymore is ridic